Weight-Loss Nutrition Fruits

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chandradeny1 said:
Which type of fruits are effective ?
i want to discuss about nutrition fruits???
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Effective for what?

And there are plenty of websites out there which have all the nutritional information about fruit and pretty much all other foods.
 
Alright, most fruits are very nutrient rich. They generally have different Vitamins and Minerals, but for the most part you can't go wrong. They will fill you up on fewer calories than almost any other snack, so truly eat whatever fruits (and Veggies) you want to! I personally have a thing for Granny Smith Apples... Great way to snack on very few calories.
 
I wouldn't consider all fruits equal

For example: Pineapple gets a high GI rating on the glycemic index as compared to bananas.

Bottom line: Fruits are fantastic for you and a source of vitamins and minerals. Just don't forget these foods are energy sources. I wouldn't recommend eating a bunch before bed but during your day they're great.
 
GoofyNewfie said:
I wouldn't consider all fruits equal

For example: Pineapple gets a high GI rating on the glycemic index as compared to bananas.

Bottom line: Fruits are fantastic for you and a source of vitamins and minerals. Just don't forget these foods are energy sources. I wouldn't recommend eating a bunch before bed but during your day they're great.
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Not sure where you get the science on your last statement (again, recent studies have proven the 'don't eat before bed' as a myth).

But the rest is dead on. Fruits are still calories.
 
I highly recommend eating before bed - always have. I even recommend waking up half-way through the night for a small meal of the PROPER nutrients if you want to go crazy with dedication but that's not 100% necessary.

However, I do not recommend fruit before bed. That's what I meant there, Jericho. A high protein meal with lots of veggies is sound but a bowl of strawberries? Nope. Very counter-productive.
 
if the intention is effective for
burning fat is a lot of very
good example alpokad fruit for
fat burning
 
I guess it can be broken down for you, Steve. What do you not understand? I thought everything I said there was pretty straight-forward.

Do not eat energy sources close to sleep time. Use them during the day.
 
Uhm...any food is an energy source. You said you recommend eating before bed, but now you say don't eat energy sources close to bed time.

To me food = energy source, therefore you are contradicting yourself.

Not sure if that is what Steve didn't get, but that's certainly the part that doesn't make any sense to me.
 
Right.

I'm assuming they're basing this on some belief that carbs before bed make you store fat or something. But overall energy balance is the ultimate arbiter of tissue gain or loss.

People need to start focusing more on the big picture and the total cal/nutrients.
 
Your body doesn't want proteins and fats for energy. Carbohydrates are the first resource used for energy and replenishing energy stores. Yes all foods have calories and a calorie is a measure of energy but your body doesn't view that as "give me whatever, I will convert it to energy just the same...". Your body is able to convert carbohydrates in to energy far more efficiently as compared to protein and fat(s).

Why do you think a marathon runner will carb-load the night before a big race? Why do you think I eat oatmeal/brown rice/yams/cream of wheat as my preworkout meal? They are primary energy sources for the body because they are a source of carbohydrate. If you view your body as a car then carbohydrates are your gasoline. This is a pretty basic principle of nutrition, people. You should know that.

When it is 11:00PM and I am within an hour of going to bed to rest for the next 6-8 hours I don't sit down and eat a bowl of oatmeal. It is counter-productive and senseless. I would drop that for lean meats and veggies or even something else appropriate for the time.

This leads back to how I don't believe calorie counting is the most efficient route to good health. Fat loss can be approached differently knowing the science behind food. Knowing what nutrients are good and at what times is the corner stone to healthy living.
 
I do understand that your body can and does use protein and fat for energy but what I was trying to stress above is that your body doesn't PREFER those things. It PREFERS carbs.
 
Totally disagree with you. You might want to have a look around the board and read the stickies about nutrition, forms of energy, calories in vs. calories out and so on. There's a lot of useful info in those.

And if you want to go with the old 'don't eat close to bed time' myth, then it doesn't matter what meal you eat. Just don't.
If you do eat before bed time, it doesn't make a difference either, as long as your meal is within whatever your calorie range you have set for yourself. It doesn't matter if you eat a plate of vegetables or a bar of chocolate, if it takes you over your calorie allowance, it'll screw up your weight loss.

And I have no idea why you would load up on carbs pre-workout. It seems entirely counter productive to me to load up on anything before working out in all honesty. But if it works for you....more power to you.

The pre-sleep eating idea still seems nonsensic to me. What kind of difference does it exactly make if I eat carbs and the energy is burned quicker (because carbs are easier to use), or if it's protein and used up slower. It's being burned eventually.

Oh, and you have no clue what MY body, or anybody else's body, prefers. Some people strive on no/low carb diets, others don't get anywhere with it. Every body is different, and reacts differently. Generalizing is one of the biggest mistakes somebody can make if it comes to weight loss.

And I am sorry, but if you don't know what you're putting in (calorie counting), and you don't know what you're burning, how can you get a basic idea of what and how much you can eat? Knowing about nutrition, what's healthy and what's not, is a good start, but I've seen people eat 'the right, healthy stuff', and still struggle with their weight.
 
Getting back to the original question about fruit...

I've read a lot of confusing information about fruit:

- eating too much stone fruit is fattening
- fruit contains fructose so it acts like sugar in the body

Much like the complex analysis around vegetables I get confusing information about which vegetables/fruits are 'better' than others.

In the end I elected to ignore the analysis and eat fruit and vegetables based on what is in season, easily available, I enjoyed eating and I ignore the 'volume/calorie' restrictions and munch on.

Seems to work but I thought the OP raised a good question that has been derailed by a dominant (& slightly off point) poster which is a shame because I would have been interested in reading other people's take on the subject.
 
GoofyNewfie said:
I do understand that your body can and does use protein and fat for energy but what I was trying to stress above is that your body doesn't PREFER those things. It PREFERS carbs.
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The fact remains that if you set your calories and nutrients correctly, it's likely not going to make a lick of difference in terms of fat loss when those variables are consumed as far as tissue balance goes.

For example, if you're in a calorie deficit, hitting sufficient protein and essential fats, eating a healthy dose of fibrous veggies and fruits, etc... it's likely not going to matter when those things are consumed. At least not to a degree you're going to be able to notice.

You mention performance and that's not what's being discussed. Fat loss and physique are being discussed and eating for performance and eating for physique enhancement are not one in the same.

This isn't even factoring in the idea that many people likely train in the evenings and if we're splitting hairs, muscle sensitivity to calorie partitioning is greatest post-training. Plus, carb intake post training, especially strength training, tends to halt protein breakdown. So we can't blanketly say, "Never eat carbs before bed" without factoring in the big picture.
 
Spinner1964 said:
eating too much stone fruit is fattening
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Can't be without further context pertaining to energy balance and total diet composition.

fruit contains fructose so it acts like sugar in the body
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Dr. Robert Lustig makes the most noise about fructose nowadays. And because he's such an alarmist... he's converted a lot people into anti-fructose zealots.

Check out this piece by my buddy, Alan Aragon. The comments after the article are great as well:

 
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