Weight-Loss Nutrition for MEN! need input.

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Monster2

Monster2

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Do any of you feel like men are ignored when it comes to nutrition?
I need 800 calories per meal, if I eat 3x day. 90% of the "diet" meals are around 400 calories.
So, I'm looking for good ideas when it comes to eating ENOUGH, because most of the info that's out for meals there seems like it's loaded with calories or made for small people, and I need something in between!
thanks!
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What kind of food are you looking at? I tend to make meals for myself (when I'm on my own) and I make them according to the calorie allowance I have- so if I have 800 calories left for the day, I'll have a 600 calorie dinner plus dessert (say). Have you looked at recipe websites that give you calorie (or kilojoule) amounts, like BBC Good Food or Taste Australia? (I'm sure there are American sites as well).

I'm not sure if this link will work, but here's the search results for BBC Good Food- 600-800 calories per serve, main course, easy to make:

Do you snack at all? I tend to eat low-ish calorie meals and snack through the day (because I need to to keep my blood sugar levels up)- that might work to get you sufficient calories.
 
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Not exactly sure what I'm looking for, to tell you the truth..... I just want to hear general thoughts on the subject.
I know that sounds kind of lame, but, I think it's just something that's missing from a lot of weight loss info.
 
I think to a large extent "diet" products are tailored to a very particular demographic and with very specific aims (e.g. 1200 calorie diet). Most people fall outside those very narrow parameters (I'm closer, but I'm not exactly there- I would guess the ideal target is female, 30-55, disposable income, that sort of thing). I'm very much a fan of taking the information and using it to work out something that's right for me, rather than "person who fits into our marketing criteria", which is why I don't use very much in the way of diet products (sometimes I buy Weight Watchers food, that's it).
 
Monster said:
:rant:
Do any of you feel like men are ignored when it comes to nutrition?
I need 800 calories per meal, if I eat 3x day. 90% of the "diet" meals are around 400 calories.
So, I'm looking for good ideas when it comes to eating ENOUGH, because most of the info that's out for meals there seems like it's loaded with calories or made for small people, and I need something in between!
thanks!
:rant:
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My advice would be to throw anything that has to do with numbers out the window. You've set goal weights and you're counting calories; thinking numbers and crunching numbers is not the most effective way to make the long term changes you want to make. You want your body to become a visual representation of your lifestyle (re: health) so do you really see yourself 5 years from now counting calories? My approach, personally, would be to start building a great understanding of nutrition and its related science(s) and apply the understanding you form to the nutritional "regime" you ensue.

I hate the word "regime" in that context, to be honest. The best way to think of it is a "nutirtional concious". You want to learn whats foods/nutrients are important at what time(s). For example, I don't count calories but when waking up in the morning I know what my body needs. I need low GI carbohydrates, a clean source of protein, and veggies veggies veggies.

Another important thing is you want to learn about the metabolism and what things influence it. You say that you eat three times per day and I will tell you that's not enough, The human body hasn't evolved to eat 3 larger portioned meals per day it actually prefers smaller portions more frequently. Again, we want to think about the metabolism always and here's a spot where what's healthy works best: When the body is digesting food you get a boost in metabolism and that's been labelled the "thermogenic" effect of eating. 5-6 meals per days will help keep your metabolism revving all day.
 
GoofyNewfie said:
My advice would be to throw anything that has to do with numbers out the window. You've set goal weights and you're counting calories; thinking numbers and crunching numbers is not the most effective way to make the long term changes you want to make. You want your body to become a visual representation of your lifestyle (re: health) so do you really see yourself 5 years from now counting calories? My approach, personally, would be to start building a great understanding of nutrition and its related science(s) and apply the understanding you form to the nutritional "regime" you ensue.

I hate the word "regime" in that context, to be honest. The best way to think of it is a "nutirtional concious". You want to learn whats foods/nutrients are important at what time(s). For example, I don't count calories but when waking up in the morning I know what my body needs. I need low GI carbohydrates, a clean source of protein, and veggies veggies veggies.

Another important thing is you want to learn about the metabolism and what things influence it. You say that you eat three times per day and I will tell you that's not enough, The human body hasn't evolved to eat 3 larger portioned meals per day it actually prefers smaller portions more frequently. Again, we want to think about the metabolism always and here's a spot where what's healthy works best: When the body is digesting food you get a boost in metabolism and that's been labelled the "thermogenic" effect of eating. 5-6 meals per days will help keep your metabolism revving all day.
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You might want to update your science. You are right on some things but the whole last paragraph is hogwash. Recent studies have proven that you don't lose more weight on more small meals than three larger ones. It's calories in vs calories out. If you would like, I can link the research. It comes down to what works best for you as far as the approch.
 
Jericho said:
You might want to update your science. You are right on some things but the whole last paragraph is hogwash. Recent studies have proven that you don't lose more weight on more small meals than three larger ones. It's calories in vs calories out. If you would like, I can link the research. It comes down to what works best for you as far as the approch.
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I can agree that this style of eating doesn't necessarily mean you'll lose weight. My point was that it will boost metabolism, keep your body out of starve mode, and keep you feeling good (re: hunger, energy, etc). These things are great for helping reduce fat and shrink the adipose tissue. If you can`t distinguish weight from fat then I think it is you who must update your science. :)

My arguments against counting calories are that you can`t account for unexpected expenditure, nor can you predict how the internal environment is doing. A little secreted hormone from the thyroid gland makes your metabolism sky-rocket or even a day at the office where the elevator is broke can lead to more daily output then your numbers are allowing.

The mentality I like to use is not about how much gas I put in the tank, it`s about what quality of fuels are going in.

Also, I do agree on the `different stroke for different folks`.... try different things, people. Always look for ways to progress and develop. Some things will work and others will not; regardless, just make sure you`re always learning and understanding how the body and nutrition work together.
 
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