NO2 - my review

Well I will be buying a bottle of N02 in about a week, to see what people are really talking about. There are so many stories about how it's either amazing, or crappy.

Many questions have been asked about it on this forum, so I will try and answer all of them, after completion of this "test".

I will keeping track of many things:

- Overall Usefullness
- The pump
- Weight gained
- Motivation they claim it gives you
- Strength increase
- Negative effects
- Positive effects
- Cardio gains

And a lot more things. Hopefully this will clean a lot of confusion up for the newer body builders, weight lifters, cutters, bulkers, and so on.

Once I get my paycheck - I start.
 
thank you for being our Guinea Pig :p

I've heard lots of "its a waste of money" and very little facts that it does anything other than "my friend says it works real good."

It's good that you are viewing this with a completely unbiased attitude.
 
I will offer my biased account of my own little NO2 test I've been conducting for about a week now.

knowing that NO2 products are just based on l-arginine, I spend $4 for a bottle of arginine 500g capsules. I've been taking 3.5g total per day (1.5g with breakfast, 1g at lunch, 1g about 45 mins before weight training).

took a few days to build up in my system I guess cuz I didn't notice anything until monday night. after 2 sets of bicep curls, my arms felt huge. notice, I didn't say they looked any larger than my normal pump, but inside they felt swollen beyond a normal pump. not uncomfortable.

last night was leg night, and after squats and 2 sets of leg extensions, my quads were rock hard (and I feel my quads are a weak spot right now).

so, I agree that NO2 products and l-arginine does increase your pump. however, i've still not found a single scientific study that showed the 'pump' was any kind of a benefit. no added strength, no faster muscle growth or recovery...hell it doesn't even increase creatine absorption.

Also, for the record, muscletech's "pumptech" sample they sent me in the mail actually upset my stomach.

Lastly, not all NO2 products are equal. NO2 is just a form of arginine, but something like NO Explode has NO2, creatine, caffine, and some other junk in it, plus flavoring and sweetners. obviously the caffine amps you up for the workout, but the price they charge for NO2 xplode is more than a bottle of NO2, a bottle of creatine and a bottle of No-Doze would cost.
 
im lookin forward to the other review, im one of the people who asked some questions about this NO2, if anyone else is taking ot or thinking about taking it make sure to post ure results/opinions/review too so we can compare it with others. some people would proably get different results and such, so let me know.
 
Yea, it is a lot of money. But the GNC where I live has it on sale for like $40 canadian with a Gold Card (Which I have). So, I'm just gunna buy 1, see how it is, if I like it buy like 10.
 
junkfoodbad said:
thank you for being our Guinea Pig :p

I've heard lots of "its a waste of money" and very little facts that it does anything other than "my friend says it works real good."

It's a waste of money.

The main premise behind using NO-stimulators is based upon boosting blood-arginine levels (from either L-arginine or arginine-alpha-ketoglutarate) which will, in turn, boost blood-NO levels. Considering ARG is a substrate for NO, this is somewhat plausible. NO will then, supposedly, act as a vasodilator, increasing blood flow and nutrient delivery to muscle cells. Reasonable, right?

Unfortunately, there is simply too much evidence to go against this idea. It can actually be refuted in a single statement: The concentration of baseline arginine that exists in the bloodstream is far, far greater than the maximum amount that can converted into nitric oxide. Rather, human biochemical response dictates that instead of converting ARG to NO until equilibrium is reached, a catalyst is required in order to signal this reaction to take place. In other words, we have a huge bank of serum arginine in circulation; boosting NO levels results from signaling the ARG --> NO reaction to take place. Boosting blood-ARG levels is futile, as we have plenty of that substrate without additional supplementation.

However, when you examine the destiny of ARG in the body, you see that ARG is a potent insulin secretagogue. Likewise, insulin is a potent promoter of temporary NO conversion, and thus a vasodilator. So... the insulin response associated with ARG-based products is what causes the NO boost, not the actual ARG substrate. In fact, a study conducted at Penn State showed that blocking receptors on the pancreas (and hence, stifling insulin secretion) reduced NO increases by about 80% following ARG supplementation. A subsequent study from 1999 demonstrated that glycogen replenishment in a semi-fasted, post-workout scenario was accomplished 3x faster with a whole-protein/carbohydrate combination than with an ARG/carbohydrate combination.

Beyond this, it is well known that amino uptake is somewhat ineffecient in administration of single amino acids. Amino acids seem to rely on the prescence of others for effective uptake. The free amino acid pool generally operates with a degree of homeostasis. Ingesting megadoses of a single amino acid will shatter this equilibrium, thus forcing expulsion. It is far more effective to raise insulin levels with a combination of carbohydrates and whole-protein than by carbohydrates and a single amino.

So, by this evidence, NO-boosting supplements are somewhat effective, even though they work by a mechanism other than what is claimed. There is much more effectiveness (particularly, cost effectiveness) in implementing a solid post-workout carb/protein combination. NO-boosting agents simply work by manipulating insulin flux. This can be done, quite easily, by dietary methods. By this standard, I find it simply foolish to invest so much money into an inefficient secretagogue. It is comparable to using a saline IV as a hydration source. Sure, it works, but there is a much easier, cheaper way to get water. So yes, it works, but very, very inefficiently.
 
well, i enjoyed being really vainy for a couple months but uhm, it wasnt worth the price i paid. rather buya nice pair of jeans :)

not to mension the periodical runs... :-O
 
*only reads the beginning of NHB's post*

OK. NO DOES do what it says it does. Just not as well as it's said to - just like any other supplement. They make it out to be some wonder-drug but really it's just a small addon to your diet.

Oh and sorry people. :( I couldn't get it this week, I got my paycheck, but I owed my mom $150, and I had to by my more important supps first, creatine, protein, and my acids, which was another $150 (bought great stuff). I'll get it when I get the cash...
 
So do I. It gets my goal more in focus though. I still haven't bought all the supps I want. :(
 
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