need advice to lose 15-20 pounds

differentsky

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Hello. This may seem long winded but I thought some background would help.

I'm an almost 30 year old woman who is looking to finally and permanently lose about 20 pounds off my medium to large 5'3" frame. I currently weigh 143. I was a normal weight child and then became 20-25 pounds overweight during my high school years because from middle school on, I had a very big appetite for my size and had no issues with that. I have the body that doesn't look fat because my build is naturally muscular and I was athletic as well. Around 20 years old, I had reached about 158. I started to work out regularily. I would work out regularily for periods and then take some time off. By my mid 20s, I was around 135-140 pounds. I still looked athletic but I always had a lot of fat on my stomach and back of my arms. I would diet and I got around 125 around three years ago. At that weight I still had a stomach fat pocket so I'm thinking that my ultimate goal is 120 pounds.

In the past two years I haven't belonged to a gym so I was only running about once a week and riding my bike almost every day during the warm months only. It wasn't enough and in january, I weighed 151.

Anyway, right now I am working out about 5-6 days per week since the last week of january. I usually do cardio (treadmill, running outside, stair climber, elliptical or a mixture) for 20-50 minutes at a medium to medium high intensity where my heart rate is mostly at 160 and above. once or twice a week I do interval cardio. I also do strength training with 3 sets of 10-12 reps of weights that are difficult by the 10-12th repetition.
My workouts look like this:
day 1:20-30 min cardio and upper body strength
day 2: 30-50 min cardio
day 3: 20-30 min cardio and lower body strength
day 4: 30-50 min cardio
day 5: repeat day 1
day 6: repeat day 2
day 7: rest (some days I rest two days in a week if my schedule is tight but I try to be moving around a lot that day.)

My diet consists of mostly home cooked foods and a vary large variety of diffent foods. My meals are mostly indian, middle eastern and asian foods that I grew up eating as I am of mixed ethnicity
Breakfast: whole wheat flax seed cereal and 1% milk or 1 hard cooked egg with 1 TB of olive oil and a slice of whole grain or sprouted grain toast with a 1 tp of butter or 1/2 cup of vanilla granola and 1/2 cup of lowfat vanilla yogurt. a serving of fruit every day, usually blueberries
Lunch: about 2 cups salad with a variety of vegetables and lentils, some tofu, tuna and/ or chicken, dressing is sesame oil, olive oil, lemon juice, vingear (varies)
Dinner: home cooked dishes that are usually stir fries or stews with vegetables and meats (chicken, beef, lamb, fish or shrimp) and are always served with either noodles (pasta or asian), basmati or brown rice. I cook with olive and canola oil mostly and I never eat fried foods. Snacks: various fruit, nuts, 1-2 servings of cheese, a piece of olive ciabatta bread with olive oil, yogurt or lowfat vanilla and fruit, a piece of toast with peanut butter or a few bites of pastries or dessert.
Drinks: water, green tea, 1-4 alcoholic beverages per week
I think my faults lie with my eating. While I don't eat processed foods, I must be eating too much. I really want to lose this extra weight for once and for all. I have researced various diets but I don't know what would be the best for my body. I'm also very afraid of eating bland foods since I'm a bit of a gastronomique. Do you recommend any diets? How do I find out what my maintenance calories should be for body and activity level. Research comes up with conflicting information. I also am asking what I could do with my workouts to make them better. Do I need to work out longer? I know that losing 1-2 pounds a week is the safest way but I can't even seem to do that. It's very frustrating!

Thanks for your help.
 
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Hello and welcome to the forum.

Big problem you have, energy in/energy out. If you are eating to many calories for your body then you aren't going to lose fat, period.

I would start here...


Figure out your caloric needs and then subtract as needed and as results start showing. Stick for 1-1.5 lost a week at your frame and size, more than that and you could enter a stall easier.
 
thanks so much for your advice, i found out that my maintenance calories 2227. so i guess i have to create a daily deficit of at least 500 calories or so which is around 1727 right?

what confuses me is how do i get the calories of say my daily salads which i buy at my work? or when i buy bakery artisan breads? it seems overwhelming, i guess it's because i'm not used to counting calories.

that's why i need a structured diet plan. i'm willing to learn to eat totally different and learn the correct portion sizes, etc. does anyone recommend a diet plan that has simple and tasty foods? anyone recommend ediets? southbeach? mediterranean? i also want to be able to learn to cook them so when i go back to my own food preferences, i know how to cook my favorites or eat them in the correct portions and calories. i think that's the most difficult part of dieting, knowing what calories are in a certain portion!
 
thanks so much for your advice, i found out that my maintenance calories 2227. so i guess i have to create a daily deficit of at least 500 calories or so which is around 1727 right?

what confuses me is how do i get the calories of say my daily salads which i buy at my work? or when i buy bakery artisan breads? it seems overwhelming, i guess it's because i'm not used to counting calories.

that's why i need a structured diet plan. i'm willing to learn to eat totally different and learn the correct portion sizes, etc. does anyone recommend a diet plan that has simple and tasty foods? anyone recommend ediets? southbeach? mediterranean? i also want to be able to learn to cook them so when i go back to my own food preferences, i know how to cook my favorites or eat them in the correct portions and calories. i think that's the most difficult part of dieting, knowing what calories are in a certain portion!


Hi there and welcome to the forum! The best way to start looking for an 'eating plan' that works for you is to examine your daily food intake, looking at both calories and content. What kinds of foods can you not live without? There are literally thousands of eating plans and diets out there right now but you just have to find what works for you. I've tried 98% of them so if you told me what you prefer eating on a daily basis, how often you eat, and your lifestyle, I may be able to recommend something.. I have tried Ediets and I didnt like it, mainly because I have a lot of food allergies and couldnt adapt the diet plans accordingly. However, MANY people have found success with Ediets.

If you are in need of serious structure, LA Weight loss is great, as is South Beach. But again, with fad diets, you usually cannot maintain the weight loss for life. So your best bet is to adopt 'eating habits' by watching your caloric intake and eating five to six healthy, balanced meals throughout the day to keep your metabokism going. Let me know if I can be of any help! Good luck:)
 
LA weight Loss, South Beach, Weight watchers, all those diets don't work, not for the long term, and most of the time not for the short term either.

It is all about eating for energy, eating a balanced diet and training the right way.
 
LA weight Loss, South Beach, Weight watchers, all those diets don't work, not for the long term, and most of the time not for the short term either.

It is all about eating for energy, eating a balanced diet and training the right way.

I would disagree with you there. THEY DO WORK in the short-term, which is why they are so popular and why so many people expend thousands of dollars each year buying the numerous books and signing up for all of the different plans. If there were no short-term results, they would not receive the recognition they have. Although, as I stated in my post, the former two do not usually work in the long-term as they are difficult to maintain and continue, although there are people who have managed to keep the weight off. Weight watchers, however, is a "life eating plan" and I've known many people who have followed and maintained their weight for years and decades. But, as I stated in my post, the best way to take and keep the weight off is to avoid any kind of fad diet and just pursue a balanced diet and exercise. Following the guidelines of some of these diets and adapting them to an eating plan that could work for you in the long-term is not a bad idea for those of us who need structure!
 
yeah, i don't want a fad diet. i want something that i can incorporate the foods i already eat since i think the quality of the foods i'm eating is really high. i know it's about portions and spreading my meals out over the day into several meals so i don't get hungry and over eat.

as i mentioned in my first comment, i really love international foods. it would be very unrealistic of me to cut them out. most of them could be made healthier and if i could just know the calories in a certain portion of noodles or curry and eat that amount....sigh...it's doable but i just need to get serious about wieghing foods and paying attention to calories.

i know ediets has many diet plans within so i wondered about that. i have zero food allergies so i can pretty much eat anything safely. any diet plans with recipes that offer really flavorful foods of the east would be ideal for me. i think i can't live with out fresh bread, noodles or rice (i'm half asian!) but i'm willing to cut back and eat less weekly or daily servings.

thanks again, hopefully that's enough info for a recommendation. :)
 
I would disagree with you there. THEY DO WORK in the short-term, which is why they are so popular and why so many people expend thousands of dollars each year buying the numerous books and signing up for all of the different plans. If there were no short-term results, they would not receive the recognition they have. Although, as I stated in my post, the former two do not usually work in the long-term as they are difficult to maintain and continue, although there are people who have managed to keep the weight off. Weight watchers, however, is a "life eating plan" and I've known many people who have followed and maintained their weight for years and decades. But, as I stated in my post, the best way to take and keep the weight off is to avoid any kind of fad diet and just pursue a balanced diet and exercise. Following the guidelines of some of these diets and adapting them to an eating plan that could work for you in the long-term is not a bad idea for those of us who need structure!

I can appreciate where you are coming from, but as a professional who deals with some many clients who come my way from having done these programs and having to spend months trying to repair the damage done to their metabolisms I cannot stand behind it in any sense of the word.

I also said most of the time they don't work for the short term either.

People who maintain weigh watchers are people who are maintaining a very low caloric diet and are not doing a healthy thing for their body.

I hope you can respect where I am coming from as a professional, I do not wish to hurt feelings, and welcome anyones opinions:)
 
yeah, i don't want a fad diet. i want something that i can incorporate the foods i already eat since i think the quality of the foods i'm eating is really high. i know it's about portions and spreading my meals out over the day into several meals so i don't get hungry and over eat.

as i mentioned in my first comment, i really love international foods. it would be very unrealistic of me to cut them out. most of them could be made healthier and if i could just know the calories in a certain portion of noodles or curry and eat that amount....sigh...it's doable but i just need to get serious about wieghing foods and paying attention to calories.

i know ediets has many diet plans within so i wondered about that. i have zero food allergies so i can pretty much eat anything safely. any diet plans with recipes that offer really flavorful foods of the east would be ideal for me. i think i can't live with out fresh bread, noodles or rice (i'm half asian!) but i'm willing to cut back and eat less weekly or daily servings.

thanks again, hopefully that's enough info for a recommendation. :)

I will PM you some info.

For the time being here is a simple rule layout for eating for energy.

Meal 1-Pro-Carb (simple/complex)
Meal 2-Pro-Carb (simple/complex)
Meal 3-Pro-Carb (simple/complex)
Meal 4-Pro-Fat-Carb (veggie)
Meal 5-Pro-Fat-Carb (veggie)

Sticking to that formula is your best chance to keep the fat store at bay.

This can change if adding in post workout nutrition but I don't want to overwhelm you.

So simply put if you can have 1700 calories a day, divide that into 5 meals, have protein with every meal and keep the starch and simple sugars lower at night.

So have 340 every meal, protein with every meal, and get in a balance of good carbs and good fats.

That is as easy and simple as it gets.
 
If you belong to a gym, usually they have a nutritionist on staff that you can take advantage of. They can help you create a custom plan based around what you are already eating.

That way, you are still eating the foods that you love, just learning how to prepare them in healthy ways.

I used Dean Ornish's book as a base guide (I am not a vegetarian, but I do not eat a lot of meat...) for my personal plan, because I was already eating most of the kinds of foods he recommends. Using the recommended foods, I developed little meals that I could interchange on different days throughout a week.



edited to add... *note, since being on this board, I added back in oils/fats from olives and nuts. The key is, use it as a guide rather than as an end-all be-all strict diet plan.
 
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Hello. This may seem long winded but I thought some background would help.

I'm an almost 30 year old woman who is looking to finally and permanently lose about 20 pounds off my medium to large 5'3" frame. I currently weigh 143. I was a normal weight child and then became 20-25 pounds overweight during my high school years because from middle school on, I had a very big appetite for my size and had no issues with that. I have the body that doesn't look fat because my build is naturally muscular and I was athletic as well. Around 20 years old, I had reached about 158. I started to work out regularily. I would work out regularily for periods and then take some time off. By my mid 20s, I was around 135-140 pounds. I still looked athletic but I always had a lot of fat on my stomach and back of my arms. I would diet and I got around 125 around three years ago. At that weight I still had a stomach fat pocket so I'm thinking that my ultimate goal is 120 pounds.

In the past two years I haven't belonged to a gym so I was only running about once a week and riding my bike almost every day during the warm months only. It wasn't enough and in january, I weighed 151.

Anyway, right now I am working out about 5-6 days per week since the last week of january. I usually do cardio (treadmill, running outside, stair climber, elliptical or a mixture) for 20-50 minutes at a medium to medium high intensity where my heart rate is mostly at 160 and above. once or twice a week I do interval cardio. I also do strength training with 3 sets of 10-12 reps of weights that are difficult by the 10-12th repetition.

Wow - great post. You're doing a great job from what I can see. Kudos !

On your weight training. The impact on your muscles in terms of growth potential is no greater at 10-12 reps than it is at 6-8 reps. So, in the interest of being efficient, my first suggestion would be to adjust your weight upward a bit on all your exercises so your maximum rep range is closer to 6-8 instead of 10-12. Do some trial and error and make sure that whatever weight you add that it is almost impossible to lift ( i.e you're close to failure ) around rep 8. Once you find that new weight level, continue with it until you can do 12 reps with ease, then add more weight so you are back to struggling at the 8th rep again.

On your cardio. If you can, you want to use a weight bearing machine or exercise as a first choice if you can ( and as you've been doing ) - like a stairmaster, treadmill, eliptical and / or once that provides a full body workout like a elipltical trainer ( the one with the arms ) or a rower. Congrats on the interval training byw - i think that is a great idea. How do you determine your work and rest intervals ? I assume these intervals are your 20 minute cardio workouts ? On your 50 mintue cardio sessions, are these at a high level of 160 ( 85% MHR ) or at a more moderate level of 125 or so ( 65% MHR ) ?




My workouts look like this:
day 1:20-30 min cardio and upper body strength
day 2: 30-50 min cardio
day 3: 20-30 min cardio and lower body strength
day 4: 30-50 min cardio
day 5: repeat day 1
day 6: repeat day 2
day 7: rest (some days I rest two days in a week if my schedule is tight but I try to be moving around a lot that day.)

Well done ( above ) ....that shows a lot of committment !

What exercises do you do for " upper body " and do you do any " lower body " ?

Anything more you can tell us abut your cardio workouts ?

My diet consists of mostly home cooked foods and a vary large variety of diffent foods. My meals are mostly indian, middle eastern and asian foods that I grew up eating as I am of mixed ethnicity
Breakfast: whole wheat flax seed cereal and 1% milk or 1 hard cooked egg with 1 TB of olive oil and a slice of whole grain or sprouted grain toast with a 1 tp of butter or 1/2 cup of vanilla granola and 1/2 cup of lowfat vanilla yogurt. a serving of fruit every day, usually blueberries
Lunch: about 2 cups salad with a variety of vegetables and lentils, some tofu, tuna and/ or chicken, dressing is sesame oil, olive oil, lemon juice, vingear (varies)
Dinner: home cooked dishes that are usually stir fries or stews with vegetables and meats (chicken, beef, lamb, fish or shrimp) and are always served with either noodles (pasta or asian), basmati or brown rice. I cook with olive and canola oil mostly and I never eat fried foods. Snacks: various fruit, nuts, 1-2 servings of cheese, a piece of olive ciabatta bread with olive oil, yogurt or lowfat vanilla and fruit, a piece of toast with peanut butter or a few bites of pastries or dessert.
Drinks: water, green tea, 1-4 alcoholic beverages per week
I think my faults lie with my eating. While I don't eat processed foods, I must be eating too much. I really want to lose this extra weight for once and for all. I have researced various diets but I don't know what would be the best for my body. I'm also very afraid of eating bland foods since I'm a bit of a gastronomique. Do you recommend any diets? How do I find out what my maintenance calories should be for body and activity level.

Boy, there are all kinds of calculators for this sort of thing out there, but depending on whether you consider yourself moderately or extremely active, based on a couple I looked at your maintenance calories could be anywhere from 2,100+/- to 2,400 +/- calories.


Research comes up with conflicting information. I also am asking what I could do with my workouts to make them better. Do I need to work out longer?

You can do a full-body weight routine in 30-45 mintues and weight training should never go beyond an hour IMO. Cardio for interval training is usually somewhere around 20-30 minutes depending on the intensity of course. Generally, my approach is always to try and find a way to train smarter/harder...never longer. So the better question might be whether you should work out harder ( which usually means shorter ) or not.


I know that losing 1-2 pounds a week is the safest way but I can't even seem to do that. It's very frustrating! Thanks for your help.

Don't forget, scales can be misleading. If you are losing fat while at the same time adding some muscle mass along the way, it may net out on your scale.

btw - can you get a body fat % measurement done at your gym ..or do you have any idea what your bf% might be ?
 
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Right now I am reading Dr Weil's book Eating Well for optimum health. The first book I have ever read on nutrition! My mom would be so happy!
A brief overview: first he goes through nutrition, what it is, and how the body uses and needs it, then he considers diets, atkins, south beach. he says the mediterranean one is about the best. Then he closes the book with easy recipes for you. I will try to get some more details from it if people want.
 
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