My Weight Loss Program. Good? Bad? Input?

AzzA

AzzA

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Hey guys. I'm new to this place, but I thought i'd give it a shot. I'm currently weighing around 98/100kg's. I've started a monthly subscription at a professional gym near my home, and I plan on attending around 4/5 days a week for at least an hour.

I've bought a months supply of Sida Cordifolia (Fat Burner and pre-workout energy stimulator) and a tub of ProPeptide (advanced protein supplement), both by CNPProfessional.

So, my average day will look like this:
8:00am - 2 Weetabix with ProPeptide. (1 Sida Cordifolia tablet?)

12:00pm - Plain baked potato.

4:00pm - 1 Sida Cordifolia tablet.
<Gym Session>
7:00pm - ProPeptide.
?:??pm - Turkey breast + salad.
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Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Also, if you guys have any experience and tales to tell about Sida Cordifolia and ProPeptide, i'd love to hear from you.

Thanks guys.
 
AzzA said:
Hey guys. I'm new to this place, but I thought i'd give it a shot. I'm currently weighing around 98/100kg's. I've started a monthly subscription at a professional gym near my home, and I plan on attending around 4/5 days a week for at least an hour.

I've bought a months supply of Sida Cordifolia (Fat Burner and pre-workout energy stimulator) and a tub of ProPeptide (advanced protein supplement), both by CNPProfessional.

So, my average day will look like this:
8:00am - 2 Weetabix with ProPeptide. (1 Sida Cordifolia tablet?)

12:00pm - Plain baked potato.

4:00pm - 1 Sida Cordifolia tablet.
<Gym Session>
7:00pm - ProPeptide.
?:??pm - Turkey breast + salad.
_______________________________________________________

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Also, if you guys have any experience and tales to tell about Sida Cordifolia and ProPeptide, i'd love to hear from you.

Thanks guys.
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Are you male of female?

I assume male.

At this point, it doesn't really matter. This is way off based my friend. You don't need to use thermogenics at your size. They come more in handy, if at all, for someone who is relatively lean looking to get leaner.

On top of this, you are barely eating any normal foods.

I can't imagine how low your daily caloric intake is with this plan. Do you have any idea?

What are you going to do in terms of exercise, even though this is such a distant concern at this point until we get your nutrition figured out.
 
Hey mate, thanks for your response.

I'm a male. 16 years old if thats any good to you.

In terms of exercise, it's a full gym workout. A different body part each day. Not only am I looking to lose weight fast, but I'm looking to get rather built aswell... Weight loss is my primary concern however.

As for my calorie intake, I have no idea. It will vary day to day though, but what I posted is a rough idea.
 
Hi there Azza! Welcome to WLF and good idea that you're running your program by us. I know nothing about these weight loss supplements except to say that if they really worked, we'd ALL be on them, including Oprah (and knowing her, she would've told us about this). So I'd personally leave the supplements alone.

What is your starting weight and goal weight?

The total calories you listed for an average day seem to be under 600 calories in total. Most bodies need at least 1200 (and usually a lot more) just to work (pump blood, breath, digest food etc). Usually its good to aim for a calorie deficit of 500 calories, though that can be higher if you have a lot to lose.
This means that if you're body needs X amount of calories to live, plus it burns X number of calories on exercise and normal life activities, you just cut what you need by about 500-800 calories and that's how many cals you should be eating.

If you eat too little, there is certainly no way in hell that you can gain muscle. You will be depleting muscle if anything. Muscle needs protein and fuel to grow.

But really, you'll lose tons of weight if you eat 1500 calories or more and work out. So why go so low when it will only cause your metabolism to slow down and you to give up because after all, no one likes to starve for very long before they throw in the towel.

My advice: do this the slow way so you'll keep off the weight. Doing it any other way and you will be sure to gain it all back and then some.
 
Hey Blancita :) thanks for the welcome.

Firstly, who is Oprah? :p

Secondly, my supplements were recommended by nutritionists at the gym i'm membershipped with, and I don't really know much about them myself, so I'm just gonna give them a chance and go with what they say on the package :p

So, my weight right now is around 98/100kg's (which I believe is around 16 stone) and I'm just looking to be NOT fat :) So, I'm guessing I don't really have a target weight.
 
AzzA said:
Secondly, my supplements were recommended by nutritionists at the gym i'm membershipped with, and I don't really know much about them myself, so I'm just gonna give them a chance and go with what they say on the package :p
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This right here is the reason why the large majority of people fail at correcting their lifestyle and making any kind of permanent and healthful change. Take the time to understand what you are doing and why you are doing it. know what and why you put anything into your mouth. know what and why you do any kind of regimented physical activity. simply relying on what any other random person says is like entrusting some cult leader to take you to God. Taking all this effort to do things the right way seem like too much for you? that's fine, to each their own, but do not expect to succeed and be fit, healthy and look good for any sustainable period in your life. Have the drive and motivation to suceed for a lifetime? Great, do some reading and research from some legitimate sources to get the ball rolling.

As much as I know that Steve, or any other expert on this site knows their topics, I still would not recommend just having blind faith. On pain of principle, i believe you should test and verify some aspects of what someone tells you before taking their thoughts as gospel. Make sure you know that they know what they are talking about... and make sure you know their angle. those nutritionists at the gym? are you sure they are even real nutritionists? as in legally accredited and certified (if that is required in the area you live in)? Also, do they not have something to gain if they work at the gym by selling you extra supplements? In that situation, their opinions are at best biased. generally speaking, no educated and thoughtful nutritionist is going to recommend thermogenics to the average overweight person. They know that the problems stem elsewhere than from a need to make a slight (usually at most 1%) boost in daily metabolism. and if you dont target the problems, you will never have the desired effects.

good that you have decided to make a change, but even better if you decide to make it the right way. best wishes in your new endeavor.
 
Also, you're 16 so you haven't finished growing yet. If you eat too little, you'll do yourself harm such as not growing as tall as you should be, and risking lowered bone mass (= poor bone quality - you dont want that when you're older).

Forget about supplements altogether - they're only useful if you're very very athletic and "tweaking" your physique to perfection. Right now when you start, what you need is a decent food intake (enough food, good food) and a decent workout program. Supplements will do no good at that stage, and to be honest they're a waste of money if you dont know how to use them.

As coachCrimson said, unfortunately, at the end of the day, a gym is a business, and a business works by selling things to people. Be wary of that, and I'd even suggest picking another gym: mine is very friendly and promotes healthy eating - they dont even sell supplements / protein powders and the Irish guy who does my gym review (he's big) always says "bloody protein shake bollocks just eat a bloody steak for god's sake" ;)

I'd get myself a decent book about nutrition and fitness, and educate myself as much as I can, if I were you. Stay well away from diet books - they do not work in the long run as eating habits must be changed forever, and they're too restrictive usually for someone who is still growing.
 
AzzA said:
Hey Blancita :) thanks for the welcome.

Firstly, who is Oprah? :p

Secondly, my supplements were recommended by nutritionists at the gym i'm membershipped with, and I don't really know much about them myself, so I'm just gonna give them a chance and go with what they say on the package :p

So, my weight right now is around 98/100kg's (which I believe is around 16 stone) and I'm just looking to be NOT fat :) So, I'm guessing I don't really have a target weight.
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Hi Azza! Oprah is one of the richest women in the world and has a TV show that has aired since the 1980's; she used to be fat and has always struggled with her weight.

Dont believe the hype at the gym! I would be leary of anyone at my gym if they tried to sell me supplements. Recommending them for you to buy elsewhere on your own is OK, but dont you see the CONFLICT OF INTEREST involved here? They are trying to make a buck (or a pound in your case).

My brother-in-law didn't start growing tall until he hit age 17, so had he been on a starvation diet like you, he possibly would've ended up a lot shorter than his current 6 feet. I know you dont want that to happen.

Also, you slow down your metabolism when you eat too little and you teach your body to hold onto every last bit of fat as your body thinks (quite accurately actually) that its been starved.

No one can starve forever, and when you go back to eating what even a normal, healthy weighted person eats, you will gain it ALL back AND THEN SOME.
 
Alright guys, thanks for all your input. I've taken all of it into perspective and decided that I will lay off the thermogenics for a while and go with the good old healthy eating & exercise stuff.

I will still use my Sida Cordifolia when I'm working out just to see if they WILL or WILL NOT benefit me, and I'll eat generally normal, but wary of what I actually eat. Crisps will become bananas, burgers will become turkey salads etc. etc.

Thanks again for all your input and advice, I appreciate it!
 
So glad to hear this Azza. I wasn't that concerned about the supplements, more that you were eating practically nothing. Substituting all or most fattening unhealthy foods for healthier lower calorie options is the way to go, as you noted. Please do keep us posted and let us know if you need anymore suggestions for getting the fat off while increasing the muscle mass. GOOD FOR YOU!
 
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