my shoulders never get sore

Guys I work my shoulders really hard. However, they are never sore the next day. Sometimes slightly sore. Yet when I'm in the gym working them, I feel the burn! whats going on?

Does anyone have any good shoulder routines I could use?
 
Wolverine....

Whats your shoulder routine now?
Let me know and ill give you something.
You training for mass or endurance or power right now?

OO
 
My shoulders never get sore either and I don't understand why. I have always trained for mass and no soreness. At least I'm not the only one!

Sarah
 
The fact that your muscles aren't sore doesn't necessarily mean you're not training them properly.

My chest is sore after most lifting days, my legs are always sore, my back sometimes and my shoulders rarely.

I've had shoulder days in the gym that made my shoulders burn so badly I could barely lift them, and the next day...no soreness.

Being sore doesn't necessarily mean you worked the muscle fully and properly...on the same note, not being sore doesn't necessarily mean you worked the muscle improperly.
 
ok good to hear. I do all my shoulder exercises with perfect form (as perfect as can be) which means my weight isnt huge, but I am feeling the burn.

here is an example of the shoulder routine I did yesterday. FYI shoulders are combined with biceps.

sets - exercise - reps
3 sets military press 10, 8, 8
2 sets upright rows 10, 10
3 sets lateral raise 10, 10, 10
2 sets cable lateral raise 10, 10
3 sets cuban press 10, 10 10
 
Wolverine,
First, what Adler said is dead on... You don't need to experience soreness know that you got a good workout. Looking at your routine though, I think you are doing way too much. Keep going at that rate and you will wind up like me and have to go through multiple shoulder surgeries.
 
JP,

What do you recommend I do? Can you tell me your shoulder plan?

And you're saying that even though I'm not sore, I am still making progress?

Thanks
 
I'd say bulking. It works the individual shoulder muscles and works on stabilization instead of having the benefit of a bar. Be sure to sit down and lean against something when you do it so you focus your strenth on the shoulder.
Things like front/side raises are aesthetics, which is for cutting. This is what my trainer told me.
 
None of the exercises listed are for cutting or bulking specifically. If you increase the size of your muscle (AKA "bulk"). If you reduce the amount of subcutaneous body fat your muscle appears more "cut".

W, you are probably just overdoing it on your shoulders. A couple of things to note, you are working your shoulders any time you do a pushing or pulling motion. Take bench press for example. Primary movers: Pectorals, Deltoids, and Triceps.

Personally I rarely do overhead pressing motions. Strength coach/physical therapist Bill Hartman suggests this:

Dumbbell raises in all different planes of motion (front, scaption, lateral, lean away, sidelying, incline, Telle, etc.) work exceptionally well. Realize that the delts are very active in just about any upperbody exercise.

If you choose to do overhead exercises, it is a must that you have normal range of motion in the shoulder joint without compensation, normal scapular mobility, and a very strong rotator cuff and scapular stabilizers. Keep in mind that even if you fit the above, instability is progressive meaning you may never have pain as instability increases. Rotating overhead exercises (if you qualify) in and out of your program will help avoid some of the overuse.

Hope that helps.
 
JP, can you tell me what shoulder exercises you do? Thanks for the help.
 
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