Sport Milk
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its protein, but its also carbs and fat unless its fat free skim milk.
some say the hormones they give cows comes out in the milk and affects people badly. Show me the science on that and I'll believe it.
Or you can get organic milk, or even just no-hormones used milk in some areas for less than organic prices.
if it fits in your diet program, go for it. remember, it HAS calories!
some say the hormones they give cows comes out in the milk and affects people badly. Show me the science on that and I'll believe it.
Or you can get organic milk, or even just no-hormones used milk in some areas for less than organic prices.
if it fits in your diet program, go for it. remember, it HAS calories!
I drink around 4-5 glasses of milk a day, but I think its specially good to drink before bed, since it has Casein (slow digesting protein) and has fat which slows the protein digestion to help it last through the night. Remember that before bed, u sleep 7-8 hours, which means 7-8 hours ur body isnt getting protein, with protein and maybe some casein powder protein blend or something, u can get ur protein while u sleep. I also heard cottage cheese is good, but i dont like it too much sooo, I stick to the milk.
***Note: Im not too experienced like many people here, but im just trying to help. If anyone needs to correct something please do.***
***Note: Im not too experienced like many people here, but im just trying to help. If anyone needs to correct something please do.***
Im not CURRENTLY "cutting"... I begin cutting next week. This is my last "bulking" week. For cutting I am conscious that I have to drink less milk.
**Off Topic*** If someone could plz post on my cutting meals post, i have little or no idea what meals to include in an avarege workout day... Kind of confused... Thanks in advance!
**Off Topic*** If someone could plz post on my cutting meals post, i have little or no idea what meals to include in an avarege workout day... Kind of confused... Thanks in advance!
I'll put my vote to "bad" thing to be drinking. Some people may argue that cow's milk is the cornerstone of nutrition for children, bodybuilders, etc., but common sense tells us otherwise.
First off, a cow produces milk for one reason: human consumption? No, her offspring. That's it. We are the only species on earth that continues to consume milk after we've been weaned from it at around 2 years of age. We do not manufacture the necessary enzymes needed to break cow's milk down properly and utilize it. Lactase, which is one of them, is missing in about 75% of the population. So, yes, most of us are "lactose intolerant".
As for the calcium, find another source. In fact, many times, milk actually causes the body to LOSE calcium. Why? Milk is acidic to the body. (*Acid/Alkaline balance is very important to one's health, and the body works hard at maintaining that balance, often with the help from calcium.) So when you consume milk, the body will not only use the calcium from the milk you just drank to keep the body alkaline, it will also take some of the calcium from your bones. (Fact: North America, highest consumers of milk, also highest osteoporosis cases. Countries that drink the least amount of milk, lowest cases of osteoporosis.)
Milk causes more allergies than any other food.
Milk is mucous forming. If you drink plenty of milk, you probably have plently of flem. It creates great loogies to impress your friends, but that mucous slowly accumulates throughout your body.
Pasteurization destroys the natural enzymes present in fresh milk.
There are a couple of exceptions. Plain yogurt, ok. Cottage cheese, ok. If you don't mind the fat content, and must drink milk, try goat milk. Cow's milk can take up to 3 hours to digest, whereas goat's milk 30 minutes. Also, goats are hormone free, if that is a concern.
Sorry for the novel. Most "modern" nutritionists, chiropractors, naturopaths, etc. will agree with the above statements. Most medical doctors, however, will not. They are not versed in modern nutrition, let alone any nutrition. But that's a topic for another day
...Pete
First off, a cow produces milk for one reason: human consumption? No, her offspring. That's it. We are the only species on earth that continues to consume milk after we've been weaned from it at around 2 years of age. We do not manufacture the necessary enzymes needed to break cow's milk down properly and utilize it. Lactase, which is one of them, is missing in about 75% of the population. So, yes, most of us are "lactose intolerant".
As for the calcium, find another source. In fact, many times, milk actually causes the body to LOSE calcium. Why? Milk is acidic to the body. (*Acid/Alkaline balance is very important to one's health, and the body works hard at maintaining that balance, often with the help from calcium.) So when you consume milk, the body will not only use the calcium from the milk you just drank to keep the body alkaline, it will also take some of the calcium from your bones. (Fact: North America, highest consumers of milk, also highest osteoporosis cases. Countries that drink the least amount of milk, lowest cases of osteoporosis.)
Milk causes more allergies than any other food.
Milk is mucous forming. If you drink plenty of milk, you probably have plently of flem. It creates great loogies to impress your friends, but that mucous slowly accumulates throughout your body.
Pasteurization destroys the natural enzymes present in fresh milk.
There are a couple of exceptions. Plain yogurt, ok. Cottage cheese, ok. If you don't mind the fat content, and must drink milk, try goat milk. Cow's milk can take up to 3 hours to digest, whereas goat's milk 30 minutes. Also, goats are hormone free, if that is a concern.
Sorry for the novel. Most "modern" nutritionists, chiropractors, naturopaths, etc. will agree with the above statements. Most medical doctors, however, will not. They are not versed in modern nutrition, let alone any nutrition. But that's a topic for another day
...Pete
I really can't get enough milk, I love it, which can be a bad thing as well. Since I'm on a bulk, I drink more than I really should, but gotta be concious about those simple carbs in there.
bloody hell. milk is my later at night, post later-on workout saviour.
i also have naturally low fat pro-biotic yoghurt (cheap cheap cheap) so ill have to switch to that.
i also have naturally low fat pro-biotic yoghurt (cheap cheap cheap) so ill have to switch to that.
Guess I'll have to switch to some cheese ... TOo bad I read this post too late, i just chugged down around 16oz of milk as I scrolled down to the bottom of the thread... Heh... TOo late now... But I'll switch it off as my cutting diet is aproaching [Next Week]. I still have no idea how to organize my meals so if someone could plz help me out...
... TOo bad I read this post too late, i just chugged down around 16oz of milk as I scrolled down to the bottom of the thread... Heh... TOo late now... But I'll switch it off as my cutting diet is aproaching [Next Week]. I still have no idea how to organize my meals so if someone could plz help me out...
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We're the only thing on this earth that does a lot of things.. And about the enzymes, people are devolving because they're supplementing digestive enzymes and don't consume dairy for extended periods so the body stops making their own; You can't argue that milk is bad because some people don't have the enzymes to digest it, some of which do so through their own fault. The blood is an excellent buffer to ph changes, and with milks pka very close to 6.1 the slight acidosis your body experiences will be minimal.
Americans drink the most milk. Americans have the highest number of people with osteoperosis. So they must be related? Nope, not really. Americans are probably the most obese people, maybe that cause the osteoporosis, maybe it's the general unhealthy lifestyle. It could be a ton of things.
One of the reasons I drink milk is to take advantage of the slow release of protein and calories, it's quite convenient.
Americans drink the most milk. Americans have the highest number of people with osteoperosis. So they must be related? Nope, not really. Americans are probably the most obese people, maybe that cause the osteoporosis, maybe it's the general unhealthy lifestyle. It could be a ton of things.
One of the reasons I drink milk is to take advantage of the slow release of protein and calories, it's quite convenient.
To me, milk is one of most delicious beverages in the world, and I can NEVER stop drinking it. With that said, I think its OK as long as its taken in moderation, just like everything else. With certain meals, nothing can possibly replace having a glass of milk. I drink 1%, which isn't skim and isn't whole, just decently in the middle. I only have an average of 16-24 ounces a day, so I don't think it's going to make or break anything I'm doing, nutrition or fitness wise...hell, what do I know though...
The body has a difficult time producing it's own digestive enzymes. Most people by the time they are 30 are pretty much out. It has nothing to do with whether they supplement with enzymes or not, but more with what they eat. As for the milk, I didn't say "some" people cannot digest it properly, I said most. Lactase, and renin, another enzyme, are all but gone by the time we are three. Also, around the age of two, we lose a gland in the back of our throats (I can't remember the name of it). That gland is responsible for souring breast milk before we swallow it to aid in the digestive process. In other words, at that point we do not need to consume milk in order to grow up healthy. Especially from another species.
Physiologically, we are unable to digest cow's milk properly to utilize it. After all, it is another "processed" food. Food is not meant to sit around in our stomachs for up to three hours digesting. All I'm saying is, what's the point of putting something in your body in which very little is utilized, and is probably detrimental to your health?
Myself, I used to drink plenty of milk, until my early twenties started getting headaches. After a recommendation from a chiropractor to stop drinking cow's milk, did my headaches cease. (*If you happen to know anyone who does kinesiology/muscle testing, tell them to test you on whether cow's milk is good for you. I have yet to meet anyone who tests "strong".)
As for my babblings, I have mentioned only facts. Do the research yourself (from reputable sources who have nothing to gain, not from the milk indusrty.) I would just rather see that dairy cow put to good use, such as steak on my plate
Physiologically, we are unable to digest cow's milk properly to utilize it. After all, it is another "processed" food. Food is not meant to sit around in our stomachs for up to three hours digesting. All I'm saying is, what's the point of putting something in your body in which very little is utilized, and is probably detrimental to your health?
Myself, I used to drink plenty of milk, until my early twenties started getting headaches. After a recommendation from a chiropractor to stop drinking cow's milk, did my headaches cease. (*If you happen to know anyone who does kinesiology/muscle testing, tell them to test you on whether cow's milk is good for you. I have yet to meet anyone who tests "strong".)
As for my babblings, I have mentioned only facts. Do the research yourself (from reputable sources who have nothing to gain, not from the milk indusrty.) I would just rather see that dairy cow put to good use, such as steak on my plate