Sport Maintain calories, what happens?

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After reading through the forums for a bit of time I saw that most people say:
bulk=+500cals
cut=-500cals
So that made me wonder what would happen if someone did a FBW 3x a week, yet decided to maintain calories? Would they see NO results? Would they replace the fat with muscle? I was just hoping if someone could provide me some info on this.
 
After reading through the forums for a bit of time I saw that most people say:
bulk=+500cals
cut=-500cals

.

I know, I wish they would quit doing that.
 
If you maintain your calories (assuming they came from good carbs, good fats, and a bodyweight of protein) then you would lose a little fat and gain a little muscle. But these results take a while to see and progress in which is why it is just better to bulk or cut.
 
I dont think its possible to eat EXACTLY your maintenance level, its gonna swing a....little one way or the other, when the goal is to eat at the maintenance level when you: consider the certain variances in activities and known approximate caloric content.

So yes it IS possible to lose tissue weight OR gain tissue weight when trying to eat at an approximate Maintenance line. Though the swing of the law of energy balance my be small on either side of the equation.

The variances could be large or small dependent upon how meticulous you are on being at your personal MT Line, knowledge of the caloric content and knowledge of calories burned during excercise, and if both sides of the equation tend to cancel each other over time, then yes, you would maintain your weight (on a healthy person).

However, if you have learned through time experimenting with yourself with your current activities, and you have your MT line PEGGED, its high probability you will maintain your weight with everything considered equal.

Its all approximation science; however, it can be close enough to get the results you want. Its all in knowing yourself and educating yourself.

If you know your base rate, then your MT line with activites (as a starter guide, so-to-speak), eat there at your MT line approximation for about 1 week.

Check results from your body (your body will TELL YOU if your eating at MT line or not).

I suggest a diet journal (and of course a weight training journal--you have to track progresssion, no?), and log the calories your eating in a 24 hour cycle period EACH DAY.

If you do this,,,,,,and the MT is off a bit, you will have the tools to use to make adjustments in the caloric content, and draw even closer to the MT line in the event the original approximation was wrong or off a bit. Once you get armed with this knowledge, you can hone the calories over your MT line a few hundred, and try to gain good muscle tissue, while trying to minimize the fat gained.

If one wants their goal, one will do what it takes.

I wish you the best in your goals. ROCK ON!

Chillen
 
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I know, I wish they would quit doing that.

I think that's a good guide amount, would you recommend lower than +500 for building muscle to limit BF gain?
I could see why you might say that but I think -500 for dieting is definately a good guidline.

As for working out and eating maintenance level calories, I think it's possible to do this and still make gains but they'll be slower than if you had a calories surplus.
 
THANKS a LOT CHILLEN.
That was an awesome post.
Well, my goal isn't to maintain weight at the moment but I was just very curious about what happened and your info was very useful. Also, I am leaving on vacation for 18 days so would it be suggested to ''maintain''?
 
The reason most people say + or - 500 calories is because each pound on your body consists of 3500 calories. At a calorie deficit or gain of 500 calories a day, it would take approximately 7 days to lose/gain 1 pound.

If you have greater than a 500 calorie deficit, you risk slowing your metabolism, which would ultimately slow your weight loss. If you consume more than 500 calories over your "maintenance," you risk gaining additional fat. If you have a deficit or excess of less than 500 calories , you would see results at a slower rate.

I'm not saying that you would not see results at a maintenance calorie level, however. You would probably see some general toning, but at a slower pace than if you adjusted your diet.

Keep in mind that this rule is just if you have not changed your activity level. Whenever you increase or decrease your activity, your calorie needs change also. For example, on your rest day you would burn less calories, therefore you would need less calories. That's not to say you shouldn't rest. If you overwork your muscles, your body tends to start breaking them down for fuel.

Let's say you usually do a bunch of cleaning up around your house on Saturdays and on Sundays you relax with the family. On Saturdays your caloric need would be greater.

It really just depends on your activity level and how quickly you would like to see results. Generally speaking, however, if you want to eliminate some fat on your body, you would have to have some kind of deficit in your body in order for your body to say "I need fuel because I'm not getting enough from my diet, so I will take it from your love handles."

Also keep in mind that your body does NOT like using up its fat stores. It only likes to use it as a last resort (after all of your dietary fuel, blood sugar and some muscle tissue has already been broken down). Your love handles are there just in case you somehow end up in a starvation situation and your body needs fuel. Plus, your brain and heart can't really use fat as fuel so it's not going to want to break it down. It just takes too much energy for your body to use fat for any kind of fuel.

I hope this didn't put you to sleep :sleeping:. I always seem to write novels when I comment on things. Sorry!
 
I'm gonna have to disagree with you for the most part, spud. Each pound on your body does not consist of 3500 calories, I don't know where this came from. Also, fat is not broken down as a last resort. To lose fat, you don't have to starve yourself. In fact, to lose fat, you should be getting a good amount of fat in your diet.
 
Learn something new everyday eh? Guess I was wrong on that one, but either way 3500 calories isn't a number to base maintenance calories on.
 
The general approximation is that it takes atleast a -3500c to lose one pound of fat tissue (or the creation of -3500c deficit in the diet over a period of time); however, it is possible to lose muscle within this approximation. And, this is one of many reasons why, it is good to have a weight training program to assist in minimizing any muscle loss when deficit dieting.

Best Wishes
 
I'm gonna have to disagree with you for the most part, spud. Each pound on your body does not consist of 3500 calories, I don't know where this came from. Also, fat is not broken down as a last resort. To lose fat, you don't have to starve yourself. In fact, to lose fat, you should be getting a good amount of fat in your diet.

You may disagree with me ShaftedTwice, but I graduated in 2005 with a degree in dietetics and that is what we have always been taught. 3500 calories is mathematically equivalent to 1 pound of tissue (which is actually a combination of muscle and fat). This means that 3500 excess will lead to 1 pound of weight gain and 3500 deficit will lead to 1 pound weight loss. Just like what Chillen said, you do want to keep up with weight training in order to prevent your muscle from breaking down (as long as you're giving your muscles adequate rest days).

Also, it is true that fat is broken down as a last resort. Your body does not like to use fat AT ALL because it takes a lot of energy to break it down into fuel, so it would rather use up the "easy" fuel resources first (the glycogen in your blood and the muscle, for example). This happens EVERY time you exercise more or decrease your caloric intake. That is why people who want to lose weight fast by eating <1000 calories per day for a week or two gain it all back immediately (they really haven't "lost" any fat stores at all).

It works like this: the first few days of starvation, your body uses up any remaining food energy and blood sugar. After these resources have been used up, your body begins conserving any remaining glycogen (since your brain and heart cannot function on anything other than sugar, aka carbohydrates). The other body parts receive nutrition primarily from muscle tissue and secondary from fat (but very little from fat because it takes too much energy to break it down and your body at this point is trying to conserve energy by slowing its metabolism). It's at this point that your metabolism slows. Once it reaches a certain point, your body finally breaks down fat and decreases the amount of muscle that it breaks down (after ~4 weeks of starvation).

That is why you don't want to restrict calories by more than 500 per day. Any more than that and your metabolism would really slow. That is also why experts always tell overweight people that weight loss is a slow and gradual process and to not rush it.

The reason low carbohydrate diets work so well is because they skip a couple steps. Since there is no blood sugar to use up in first place, your body enters the "ketosis" cycle and breaks down muscle and fat right away. This is not very good because your blood becomes alkaline and can affect several organs negatively (primarily your heart and brain are starved of nutrients). You may have heard that people who severely restrict carbs may have a breath that smells like acetone. This is from all the proteins in the body (aka muscles) that are being broken down to sustain life. Also, these people tend to ingest well over the recommended amount of fat, which is bad for cholesterol and your heart.

Speaking of fat, you should not consume more than 30% of your calories from fat and 10% from saturated fat (which is very low for the average American). But you're right in that too much fat restriction can lead to negative things such as: bad skin, bad hair, and many other things associated with fat intake (several vitamins are only absorbed with fat, fat is necessary to produce certain hormones, etc.). Most of your fats should come from omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acids (commonly found in such things as fish, nuts, avocados, etc.).

You need to base your maintenance calories on the Harris Benedict equation and your activity level (usually 2000 for women and 2500 for men), but you can calculate your specific caloric needs by typing in "how to calculate caloric needs" on Google. In order to lose or gain a pound, you want to do it slowly. Remember, 1 pound=3500 calories. Over a 7 day period, that would be a 500 calorie deficit/excess; over a 14 day period, that would be a 250 calorie deficit/excess. If you're trying to lose weight, you can combine exercise and diet and say "I'm going to lower my caloric intake by 250 and increase my activity so I burn 250 extra calories a day. That would equal 500 calories a day and 3500 in 1 week, equaling 1 pound of tissue per week."

I hope this makes more sense to you. I'm sorry if it's more confusing :confused:.
 
That's what she said. :)
 
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