low-card diet question

psychadelic90

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Hello all


This is my first post on the forum, so let me provide a bit of background information


I've always been slightly overweight from a young age, but it reached obesity in my younger teenage years. I had come acorss a few personal-trainers, but when I reached that part of the weight-loss, where you stop losing weight, it seems they'd always give up on me.


When I got out of high school, i took an entire year to myself, not enrolling in school, or getting a full-time job yet. I met another personal trainer whor eally helped me get back on track, however, my real weightloss began when he became too busy to see me (he did it for free)


So, around that time, I had gone from 350+ (unregistered on the scale), to about 330


Fast foward to a year later, and I'm happy to say I am at 189. My diet was simple, i began to eat organic/vegan, more natural ways of eating, every 3 hours


Recently, I've been put on a medication called Cipro, which prevents me from really pushing it in my cardio work-outs, but I do still push it.


I've began to read about low-carb diets. At the moment, I consume roughly 150, maybe more, carbs a day from whole grains, vegetables, fruit, etc


My research conflicts itself, as I do not fully understand what a low-carb diet DOES to you. I have read it can and will ruin your metabolism, and since i've really trained my metabolism well (I think), I do not want to mess it up at this point in my weight-loss. It intrigued me because I still have a slight bit of fat in the abdomen, sides, hips, thighs, etc, and I am unsure whether to keep on the life-style eating plan I've been on that helped me lose all the weight in the first place, or take a more rapid approach for a "diet", to cut out more carbs temporarily. I have read your body will begin to eat those "trouble-spots" away if you do this.


This is basically a rough graph of what i eat day-to-day


Breakfast: Hemp protein shake w/half banana and almond milk, some berries (a tiny beat of each variety, blueberries, blackberries, strawberries, raspberries, etc) , and a bowl of cereal w/more almond milk (this is probably my largest meal, getting roughly 50-60 carbs, and maybe 300-400 calories)


Lunch: A handful of nuts, and a 6inch (whole-wheat), gutted sub roll, w/green peppers, tomatoe, avacado (sometimes), shredded carrot (sometimes) cucumber, black olive,and a leafy green mix of spinach, aspargus, etc


Dinner: the same exact thing as above


post-dinner snack?: Protein bar, hemp seeds, and some seeded-crackers


And that is basically it, all spaced 3-4 hours apart. I was thinking of simply cutting out the bread, all of it, from my lunch/dinner sandwhiches, and making a salad out of it. it is important to note I am trying to get at least 75% of my intake from raw/live foods


How does this sound to the more advanced/knowledgable people of the forum?


Thanks in advance


P.S. I just noticed I named the topic, low-card diet question, lol
 
-You didn't lose weight because you ate organic. You lost weight because you cut out all the cr@p you have been eating initially.

-It doesn't matter whether you eat 6 meals a day or 3 meals a day.

-You need carbs to burn body fat and keeps you sane.

-I don't know how you "train your metabolism"

-You need to research topics more before believing everything you read. Most of the crap out there on the internet is written by people who know nothing and use anecdotal stories as the truth.

-Too many carbs and fats. Not enough protein, depending on the proteins in your supplements. Why not just eat real foods?

-Even though the foods you have mentioned are healthy, they all contain carbs. It all adds up.

-Learn to calculate your body's requirements.

-Again, It doesn't matter whether you eat 6 meals a day or 3 meals a day.

-Who cares whether or not you get 75% from raw foods. Nothing wrong with cooking them.
 
"-You didn't lose weight because you ate organic. You lost weight because you cut out all the cr@p you have been eating initially."


While some of that probably is true, from experience, switching to organic helped tons. I used to eat almost the same (to your point, and mine, less 100% natural though), except I would switch out my veggie subs with ones from subway, which I could never keep down for some reason. It seemed to disagree with my digestive system


"-I don't know how you "train your metabolism""


I believe your metabolism gets adjusted to a certain way of eating, to my understanding. I could be wrong of course. An example would be fasting for a day and going back to your normal routine the next day, your metab should need time to adjust. I suppose this could even include the thyroid. Though that is an EXTREME example


"-Too many carbs and fats. Not enough protein, depending on the proteins in your supplements. Why not just eat real foods?"


Define "real foods" bcause i thought i was eating real foods?


"-Even though the foods you have mentioned are healthy, they all contain carbs. It all adds up."


Could you advise some foods that do not contain carbs? it seems like the hardest part to me. Plus, how many carbs should someone with my stats be eating?


"-Learn to calculate your body's requirements."


I'd love to, but how would I go about calculating my requirements?


"-Who cares whether or not you get 75% from raw foods. Nothing wrong with cooking them."


You are probably right to an extent. However, when you cook or steam a vegetable you kill many of its enzymes and nutritional value. plus, I like eating raw foods from elll nature


While I know little about certain "diet programs" I do have selective knowledge on foods.
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. The hardest part for me, is finding vegan foods that have no carbs or fats. I'm hesitant and a bit nervous to switch to "a diet" because I've been so successful with this lifestyle way of eating in less than a year.


Nonetheless, I do suppose this is a time to capitilize and lower my calories/carbs/whatever even more to lose the final weight. I just have little knowledge of these "Advanced diet" programs. I hear so many things, and as you pointed out, it's hard to know what to believe. I have no idea what foods I can eat that contain no carbs and fats. I also have no idea what foods i can eat WITH protein that contain no carbs or fats.


I do know that i have a large amount of carbs in the morning, and a little during the day, and some more at night. Is this bad? I weight 186lbs at the moment, and I'm around 6'. I am just focusing on cardio workouts, not building muscle yet. I try to do 40mins of cardio daily. I only get around 30g's, rarely 40g's, of protein a day. Is there a better natural protein source I should know about?


I'd also like to know the same about the foods with no carbs?


Is it important to divide equal amounts of carbs with every meal? or can you essentially, "stack up" early in the day for the energy?


Can you, or anyone else, explain these things to me with more detail?


Thanks in advance


peace
 
-Your metabolism will still be going whether you have 2 big meals or 6 small meals because your body will catabolise or build whatever it wants to achieve optimum homeostasis.

-Protein supplements are not 'real' foods. Real foods would be like beef, chicken, fish etc.

-Almost everything has carbs, even some sources of protein. To avoid carbs, you would have to stop eating altogether.

-I can't tell you how many carbs you need. It all depends. Everyday activity levels, muscle mass, body type, bodt fat percentage etc. Google it up "Working out your body's macronutrient requirements"

-Yes, you do lose some nutritional values to cooking but not to the extreme you are making it sound like. it almost sounds like you are saying people are going to become malnourished from eating cooked vegetables etc. Last time I went for a health check, all my levels were normal-high and I cook everything because i HATE raw.

-It doesn't matter what time you have carbs and how spaced apart they are or whether you have them in one go or not. Again, eat to your body's requirements.

-If you are not doing weights, learn and do them. If you don't know, hire someone who does.

Chicken, beef, fish, pork, lamb, milk, cheese, yoghurts, nuts etc. LOOK IT UP.



Stop complicating things for yourself. It all comes down to calories in vs calories out. If anyone tells you any differently, tell them to go read a book. Then again, that might confuse them even more.
 
I agree with Hyung Jun...it is as simple as incoming versus outgoing...however a reduction in simple carbs like sugar and starches and filling up your stomach with complex foods like fruits, greens, vegetables [ones with less starches], pulses and meats will help you fill yourself up and yet keep the incoming calories at bay.


At the end of the day, all carbs end up becoming glucose and the excess is stored away as fat which is the body's natural mechanism to store away for hard times. Even excess protein, when not required for muscle repair, get converted to fat. So everything is to be eaten in moderation...no binging on anything. Even binging on low calorie foods like green vegetables and cucumbers is not good for you...not that it will make you fat, but simply put it will upset your system.


I still advocate eating small meals all day. It keeps hunger at bay and if you do not get hunger pangs, you stop yourself from losing control when food is there.


Someone can debunk what I say next: but I personally believe in the theory that the body metabolism adjusts itself based on its perception of food availability. Thus if you tend to have long periods of fasting, then the body tends to work hard at storing when you eat next. Regular eating and feeding yourself small meals, tends to make the body feel no need to store. In plain words, there is a stabilization of your metabolism. If nothing, it just makes you feel better and you never feel bloated, and self esteem is important when getting fitter.


Doing weights like Hyung Jun says is a great thing to do too. You will improve your muscle mass and get fitter. Your increased muscle mass and the calories burnt while doing these intense exercises will help burn fat faster.


At the end of the day, I never weigh myself...I just work at getting rid of the fat. Just grab any part of your waist or arms or cheeks or thighs...if you can grab handfuls of rubbery fat...you are not there and need diet and exercise....regardless of how much you weigh
 
@psychs90/psychadelic90 - I recommend this article to a lot of people - it's long but well worth the read http://body-improvements.com/resources/eat/ It may not all apply to you, but it can be really useful for putting a lot of "pieces of the puzzle" together.


Also... you have 2 different profiles.... if you were having issues logging into your first account, let me know!
 
Hi PLB - amazing article , long read ( as you warned) - but so objective and un-biased -


- this one should be a "sticky " link on the Newcomers forum , it really cuts-thru all the "hype" in weight loss, and gives a very complete, honest , "flexible" format for approaching weight .


thankyou for a great reference,


Maryann C.
 
Thanks Maryann, that's actually a great idea... I hadn't thought of putting it in the newcomers forum!
 
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