iv been trying to lose alot of weight, and i lost 50 lbs so far, and theres 5 lbs more to go. but im afraid my diet might (or already has) affected my muscles. im only eating 1000 kcals a day (i try, anyway), and sometimes ill go 1500. but i still DO workout, so is there anything i should be afraid of? and by workout i mean wieghts, and i also do it every day. im afraid im losing muscle mass, but am i being paranoid?
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I hear that if you change your voting habits to "democrat" that you don't even have to diet at all... 
Go General Clark!!!
Okay, here's the beef. You are damaging your metabolism, and you are going to gain everything back and then some with your method of diet. I doubt your BMI plus activity level would have you anywhere NEAR as low as 1000 calories a day.
How much do you weigh?
How tall are you?
How old are you?
What is your current workout?
You need to change this immediately or you are going to screw up your system, lose muscle, and store fat much more efficiently.
Go General Clark!!!Okay, here's the beef. You are damaging your metabolism, and you are going to gain everything back and then some with your method of diet. I doubt your BMI plus activity level would have you anywhere NEAR as low as 1000 calories a day.
How much do you weigh?
How tall are you?
How old are you?
What is your current workout?
You need to change this immediately or you are going to screw up your system, lose muscle, and store fat much more efficiently.
im aware of this "rebound" phenomenon people xperience after diets, where they regain fat. that can be avoided if you sloooowly go back up to 2000kcals plus. key word slowly.
im 16
weight 150~155
height 5' 9"~5' 10"
workout: about an hour a day, pretty much just weights, no aerobic. i know most people tell me that i should do aerobic, but you know . i do it every day, except 2 days a week when i do kendo for an hour and a half.
im 16
weight 150~155
height 5' 9"~5' 10"
workout: about an hour a day, pretty much just weights, no aerobic. i know most people tell me that i should do aerobic, but you know
. i do it every day, except 2 days a week when i do kendo for an hour and a half.You are not too heavy to warrant being on a sub-maintenance calorie diet. In fact, you should be eating a LOT more, especially to maintain your apparent active lifestyle.
And BTW, you may be "aware" of the rebound phenomenon, but you clearly don't understand it. When you are that low below maintenance, you are doing daily damage to your metabolism. Basically, you are not providing sufficient nutrients for your muscle to recover properly and do what it needs to do to grow, which IS what is going to speed up the rate at which you metabolize food. There are several receptor sites on your fat cells, two that you really need to know about. Alpha-2 is the good guy... It commands your fat cell to use its contents for energy. Beta-1 commands your cell to store fat for later use for energy. When you starve yourself, you fire up the Beta-1's and you are actually REPROGRAMMING your cells to store fat more efficiently. Your body thinks you are going to starve it so it goes into famine mode. It also has a double whammy effect. When you are depleted of your valuable muscle glycogen, your body then goes after protien as an energy source. Your muscle cells start breaking down Actin and Myosin and converting them into glucose. This takes a lot of energy that you could be using to do well in sport. Don't you want to have some nice dense, strong muscle tissue?
So, recapping, your body stores fat more efficiently in fear of being starved, and your body starts breaking down the ONE THING that could actually help speed up your metabolism. You may "think" you understand rebound, but go as slow building back up as you want. The damage will be done. Get your calories back up as quickly as you can, eat a little cleaner, and just flat out work harder in the gym. If you eat enough you will have enough energy to actually do it. And vote for anyone but GW Bush!
And BTW, you may be "aware" of the rebound phenomenon, but you clearly don't understand it. When you are that low below maintenance, you are doing daily damage to your metabolism. Basically, you are not providing sufficient nutrients for your muscle to recover properly and do what it needs to do to grow, which IS what is going to speed up the rate at which you metabolize food. There are several receptor sites on your fat cells, two that you really need to know about. Alpha-2 is the good guy... It commands your fat cell to use its contents for energy. Beta-1 commands your cell to store fat for later use for energy. When you starve yourself, you fire up the Beta-1's and you are actually REPROGRAMMING your cells to store fat more efficiently. Your body thinks you are going to starve it so it goes into famine mode. It also has a double whammy effect. When you are depleted of your valuable muscle glycogen, your body then goes after protien as an energy source. Your muscle cells start breaking down Actin and Myosin and converting them into glucose. This takes a lot of energy that you could be using to do well in sport. Don't you want to have some nice dense, strong muscle tissue?
So, recapping, your body stores fat more efficiently in fear of being starved, and your body starts breaking down the ONE THING that could actually help speed up your metabolism. You may "think" you understand rebound, but go as slow building back up as you want. The damage will be done. Get your calories back up as quickly as you can, eat a little cleaner, and just flat out work harder in the gym. If you eat enough you will have enough energy to actually do it. And vote for anyone but GW Bush!
right, i know. thats why i need to re-re-program my fat cells to adapt to a higher calorie diet. of course if i instantly went back up to 2000+, id get fat. but i wont if i increase say by 100 per week or so.
and im still a republican. go georgie
and im still a republican. go georgie
I completely agree with Jpfitness.
Republican,
Losing fat is all about transforming your lifestyle to something you can stand for the rest of your life.
I hate to be the one to break it out to you but 1000 calories probably really hurt your metabolism.
The rule of thumb in losing weight is
1. drop the sodas/ sugary drinks
2. Eat less calories than you expend. but ENOUGH so that your body can adapt to it.
3. Have a healthy diet (veges, fruit, plenty of protein from lean meat sources, carbs that aren't refined [i.e. brown rice, wheat bread]) ... 5-6 meals a day.
4. Drink plenty of water
5. Have plenty of rest
6. WEight training
7. and cardio cardio cardio (HIIT 2-3 times/week)
For you, you have to boost your metabolism in other ways besides food intake. To do that, run a lot more at high intensity levels. Green tea has also been known to rev up the metabolism. Do some research/
As far as my political stance, I'd vote for ANYONE outside of the Clinton Administration. Al Gore is Clinton's "Mini-him." (Austin Powers)
Republican,
Losing fat is all about transforming your lifestyle to something you can stand for the rest of your life.
I hate to be the one to break it out to you but 1000 calories probably really hurt your metabolism.
The rule of thumb in losing weight is
1. drop the sodas/ sugary drinks
2. Eat less calories than you expend. but ENOUGH so that your body can adapt to it.
3. Have a healthy diet (veges, fruit, plenty of protein from lean meat sources, carbs that aren't refined [i.e. brown rice, wheat bread]) ... 5-6 meals a day.
4. Drink plenty of water
5. Have plenty of rest
6. WEight training
7. and cardio cardio cardio (HIIT 2-3 times/week)
For you, you have to boost your metabolism in other ways besides food intake. To do that, run a lot more at high intensity levels. Green tea has also been known to rev up the metabolism. Do some research/
As far as my political stance, I'd vote for ANYONE outside of the Clinton Administration. Al Gore is Clinton's "Mini-him." (Austin Powers)
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on the ocntrary to what most have said, im not boney, and im doing fine at 1500 kcals, no weight gain. i finished dieting, and im up to 1500 kcals a day (like i said, slowly goin up), and so far so good.
MrDan said:
You mean "Mini Me"
Republican, I can vouch from (current) experience JPF and MrDan know what they are talking about. I was consuming somewhere around 4000 to 5000 (kilo)calories a day, at an essentially inactive lifestyle. I have reduced my daily intake to 2000 to 3000 (more towards the low to mid 2000's). I have also started taking a couple supplements (multivitamin, antioxidant, and Xenadrine EFX). Every once in a blue moon (meaning once this week) I didn't even reach 2000 (high 1900's). That was tough, and I don't plan on doing it again, unless necessary.
Initially, I felt like bull droppings. However, my body started to adjust to the changes and I now have more energy than I have in a long time. Believe it or not, this is simply in a week's time!
I can't wait to see what longevity in doing so will bring! Politically, I tend to lean towards the right. I considered all of the Democratic candidates and quickly decided none of them are getting my vote!
right, just as your body gets used to lower calories, it also gets used to higher ones. so thats what im doing.
and i dont want to get into a heated political debate (wrong forum), but i think republicans are frowned upon because of their image as the fat cat uber christian, even racist white guys. NOT TRUE! im not rich, not fat, not christian, and im half white half asian.
edit: oh, and bushes tax break did help, and im not rich, again.
and i dont want to get into a heated political debate (wrong forum), but i think republicans are frowned upon because of their image as the fat cat uber christian, even racist white guys. NOT TRUE! im not rich, not fat, not christian, and im half white half asian.
edit: oh, and bushes tax break did help, and im not rich, again.
this thread has officially been derailed
and dont gimme this "your only 16 so shut ur face" stuff.
and dont gimme this "your only 16 so shut ur face" stuff.
jpfitness said:
Boy, that sounds kinda like some allegations against the previous administration too!
All Clinton did was have the testicular fortitude to essentially begin to dismantle our military and to play with other women. Moreso the latter than the former . . . .
Yup, you're right, Republican. This topic is completely derailed!
I'm a Republican, and even I think GW is a terrible president. I was for the war, but not for the approach he took at it. I also agree with the person that claimed GW dodged the war bullet. He freely sends troops into battle without blinking an eye because he does not understand what it is to be a part of the very military that protects his rich ass. I'm sorry, but he has an incredibly comfortable lifestyle, and always has. What exactly DOES he have in common with the average American? His tax cut worked? His tax cut was a total failure in my, and most others' eyes as well. It created false hope, and many were afraid that the cut was only a temporary fix, so no one spent there tax rebate. Instead of encouraging spending he did the total opposite and encouraged saving...that sure does not sound like it helped the market very much to me. The sad thing is, however, most politicians these days are not out for what is best for the country. They are only concerned with their own constituencies, and what they can do to get another term.
scott
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all right, im gonna give a final attempt to jump on this grenade. if you dont have anything to answer my original question, then just keep walking. if you have any opinions on the war in iraq, bush, anything in politics, i can point you to a good political forum. but dont discuss it here!
this is a fitness forum, not a political forum. sorry to sound like an ass, but every forum i join seems to turn into a political forum. ignore my name and avatar, and concentarte on working out...
this is a fitness forum, not a political forum. sorry to sound like an ass, but every forum i join seems to turn into a political forum. ignore my name and avatar, and concentarte on working out...
Uuh, if you were solely interested in fitness and NOT drawing attention to your political views you wouldn't have picked that screen name and avatar.
Back to your topic, I already gave you some sound advice, which you claimed already to possess all the knowledge that I took time to type out for you, and discarded it. I don't know what else you are waiting for. Maybe for someone else who has the same unsupported beliefs about physiology that you have so you can have someone with whom to agree. Maybe you're right and I'M wrong. Could it be that I have wasted my entire life as a fitness professional? I have been working with athletes and clients for 17 years. Yes, since before you were even born. Man, that makes me sound old!
Yes, I agree,and I apologize for the outburst. Politics is a very sensitive subject because it affects everyone one way or another.
As for the diet, or LACK THERE OF IN YOUR CASE, I agree with JPF. I think you may have already done some serious damage to your metabolism. The key to gaining muscle and losing weight is to eat more, around 4-6 small meals a day of good, wholesome foods. Fresh fruits in moderation, fresh vegetables, blah blah blah it has been mentioned many times already. Starving yourself tells your body to look for other places than it usually does to get fuel (your muscles). Muscle tissue boosts your overall metabolic rate WHEN IT IS THERE. When you lose muscle tissue your base metabolic rate decreases even more than it already has. 1500 calories? That is rediculous. You need to increase your metabolism again by eating 4-6 meals a day. Do not eat until you are full, drink lots of water, and avoid processed sugars and junk food. Once again though, sounds like everyone gave you the correct response already. Skipping meals does not help you, trust me. Not only does it screw up your metabolism, it also gives you hardly any energy to workout with. I do not know about you, but I would rather feel good and energized before my workouts so I can do up to my potential. Without eating enough you will never be able to do your best, yes NEVER. It may take some time for your digestive system to catch up to your eating. I remember when I boosted myself up to around 4k cals a day I felt bloated and sick to my stomache. It would be best to ease into it.
scott
As for the diet, or LACK THERE OF IN YOUR CASE, I agree with JPF. I think you may have already done some serious damage to your metabolism. The key to gaining muscle and losing weight is to eat more, around 4-6 small meals a day of good, wholesome foods. Fresh fruits in moderation, fresh vegetables, blah blah blah it has been mentioned many times already. Starving yourself tells your body to look for other places than it usually does to get fuel (your muscles). Muscle tissue boosts your overall metabolic rate WHEN IT IS THERE. When you lose muscle tissue your base metabolic rate decreases even more than it already has. 1500 calories? That is rediculous. You need to increase your metabolism again by eating 4-6 meals a day. Do not eat until you are full, drink lots of water, and avoid processed sugars and junk food. Once again though, sounds like everyone gave you the correct response already. Skipping meals does not help you, trust me. Not only does it screw up your metabolism, it also gives you hardly any energy to workout with. I do not know about you, but I would rather feel good and energized before my workouts so I can do up to my potential. Without eating enough you will never be able to do your best, yes NEVER. It may take some time for your digestive system to catch up to your eating. I remember when I boosted myself up to around 4k cals a day I felt bloated and sick to my stomache. It would be best to ease into it.
scott
Whoaaa easy now. It does seem as though you are trying to look over everyones' advice that has been given. You are making a big mistake. If you are skipping meals and trying to lose weight at 150 you are doing the wrong thing. Why do you want to lose weight when you are 5'9 and weigh only 150?? If you do not look defined and cannot see muscles it is a direct result of your diet. To get defined, hard, taught muscles you have to have a low body fat percentage. You do not lower your bfp by skipping meals and doing resistance training everyday. YOU ARE DOING YOURSELF NO GOOD BY EATING SO LITTLE! I do not know how to get this through your head. You want a faster metabolism to burn calories, which is attained by eating MORE and doing resistance training to build more muscle, and cardiovascular activity 2-5 times a week on top of that. By the way, you never gave the reason why you do not do cardio? That is ignorant. Cardio is needed to be in top physical condition. I do not care who you are, most people can do SOME sort of cardiovascular activity. For you, I would say only around 2 times a week since you already do not weigh very much in proportion to your height. Working out 5 times a week will do you no good if you do not give your muscles any food to work with. More than 3 different people now on this thread alone have explained this to you. I was 16 once, and I also thought I knew everything when I was that age. This is some advice I would listen to though, or you are going to get nowhere in your weightlifting and physical fitness goals. Did you know that skipping meals is damaging to your body in other ways too? My aunt has a disease entitled celiac spru, this is caused mainly by stress put on the digestive system and gallbladder resulting from skipping meals. It was very painful for her, she had intense stomache aches periodically for about a year, until she had one that was completely unbearable. She had to be rushed to the hospital to have her gallbladder removed. She could barely walk OR EAT for around a week. Skipping meals and not eating enough is a terrible thing for you to put your body through. You are setting yourself up for disaster down the road if you do not change your eating habits.
scott
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