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ThreeSidedDice

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Hi all I have a lot of questions. I weigh about 170lbs.

I have started taking a body-tech protein mix which is about 18gprotein/85cal per serving/scoop. Prior to my work-out I have one seriving of the mix with a glass of milk. After my workout I have 2 servings/scoops in a glass of milk. This is about 70 grams of protein.

My old protein mix, made by iso-pure had 50g protein per serving and since I am a vegetarian I need to get as much protein as I can.

I was just wondering is it bad for me to get most of my protein from protein mix. I went to the store where my dad bought the protein and they told me that for what I'm looking to do lose weight and increase my protein intake because I am a vegetarian I should buy muscle milk.

So I know there's a lot scattered about this post, but basically I am just curious if it is bad to get a lot of protein from purely whey protein mixes and if muscle milk is better for losing weight while still taking in a lot of protein.
 
My honest answer is "why are you a vegetarian?" remember that unless you're drinking soy protein, that protein powder is derrived from animal milk...so if your vegetarian goal is to not exploit animals...protein powder doesn't fix anything.

to the question at hand...no, most of your protein should come from whole food: meat, fish, poultry, eggs, cheese (in moderation), cottage cheese. protein powders are 'supplemental' to your normal dietary intake of food.

If you're not a vegan, what's your stance on eggs, fish, and cottage cheese? cottage cheese and egg whites are good, fairly cheap whole protein sources.

if you avoid all animal products, then you'll be stuck with soy protein as your only complete protein source, as all vegetable proteins are incomplete and require careful planning to combine complimentary proteins so you end up with a complete protein profile in the meal.

(in case you couldn't tell, I don't understand the choice to go vegetarian or vegan. mankind was meant to be an omnivore and often your health suffers by not eating complete protein sources...i.e. animal meat and by products like milk, eggs and cheeses.)
 
malkore said:
My honest answer is "why are you a vegetarian?" remember that unless you're drinking soy protein, that protein powder is derrived from animal milk...so if your vegetarian goal is to not exploit animals...protein powder doesn't fix anything.

to the question at hand...no, most of your protein should come from whole food: meat, fish, poultry, eggs, cheese (in moderation), cottage cheese. protein powders are 'supplemental' to your normal dietary intake of food.

If you're not a vegan, what's your stance on eggs, fish, and cottage cheese? cottage cheese and egg whites are good, fairly cheap whole protein sources.

if you avoid all animal products, then you'll be stuck with soy protein as your only complete protein source, as all vegetable proteins are incomplete and require careful planning to combine complimentary proteins so you end up with a complete protein profile in the meal.

(in case you couldn't tell, I don't understand the choice to go vegetarian or vegan. mankind was meant to be an omnivore and often your health suffers by not eating complete protein sources...i.e. animal meat and by products like milk, eggs and cheeses.)
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I'm vegetarian for religious reasons. I do drink milk and eat eggs. How much protein can I get from supplemental protein drinks? I'm going to start eating more cottage cheese and trying to get more egg in my diet.
 
I am also a vegetarian and I get a lot of my protein from food. Egg whites are packed with protein. Soy products also have protein, as well as cottage cheese (low fat). Some yogurt cups are great,be careful of the ones with a lot of sugar. Lastly, certain beans have good protein.

Keep the protein shakes to a minimum. The best protein drink I have run accross is the one made by Naked Juice. Its delicious and has just as much as those powders. Try it, you will get hooked.
 
malkore said:
(in case you couldn't tell, I don't understand the choice to go vegetarian or vegan. mankind was meant to be an omnivore and often your health suffers by not eating complete protein sources...i.e. animal meat and by products like milk, eggs and cheeses.)
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Actually, plenty of people, historically and currently, are healthy eating vegetarian (or very low meat) diets. Different vegetarian foods eaten together provide sufficient complete protein for normal daily activities (though body builders and strength athletes may find it more difficult). Vegans do need to consider vitamin B12, and vegetarian women of child bearing age do need to consider iron.

But yes, it is best to get most protein (and other nutrients) in one's diet from whole foods, rather than protein powders and supplements. Beans, dairy products, and eggs are common sources of protein for those who do not eat meat; while bean protein is rather incomplete, other commonly eaten vegetarian foods like grains and nuts (as well as dairy products and eggs for non-vegans) provide the amino acids that beans lack.
 
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I'd try to get as much protein from egg whites and low fat cottage cheese as you can stand.

is fish also out of the question? I'm not real up on my religious faiths...I just know the basics like Jewish people don't eat pork, and Hindu don't eat beef (or was it the Muslims...I can't remember).

Even if you don't really care for fish....if you are allowed to eat it...do it. cans of tuna, fillets of fresh or frozen fish...good stuff.

The real issue is that you need a pretty decent amount of protein per day if you want to really make gains...either gaining muscle, or losing fat.

if you wanna gain muscle you really need to eat 1g of protein per pound of body weight. if you're trying to shed fat, you actually might take in even more protein, since its common to cut carbs from the diet when on a fat loss diet...but you can't really cut too many calories or the body won't drop the fat (goes into starvation mode) so many people up the protein to keep calories reasonable, since protein is not preferred by the body for energy, and requires extra processing to try to store it as fat.

so that said, you wanna shoot for 170g of protein a day. that's a lotta cottage cheese and eggs :)

I would not take in more than, say 80g of protein from shakes per day.
 
ThreeSidedDice said:
Hi all I have a lot of questions. I weigh about 170lbs.

I have started taking a body-tech protein mix which is about 18gprotein/85cal per serving/scoop. Prior to my work-out I have one seriving of the mix with a glass of milk. After my workout I have 2 servings/scoops in a glass of milk. This is about 70 grams of protein.

My old protein mix, made by iso-pure had 50g protein per serving and since I am a vegetarian I need to get as much protein as I can.

I was just wondering is it bad for me to get most of my protein from protein mix. I went to the store where my dad bought the protein and they told me that for what I'm looking to do lose weight and increase my protein intake because I am a vegetarian I should buy muscle milk.

So I know there's a lot scattered about this post, but basically I am just curious if it is bad to get a lot of protein from purely whey protein mixes and if muscle milk is better for losing weight while still taking in a lot of protein.
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What type of vegetarian are you?:

Vegetarians fall into groups defined by the types of animal-derived foods they eat:

Vegans eat only plant-based foods. They don't eat foods from animals, including meat, poultry, fish, milk, eggs and cheese.

Lacto-vegetarians consume milk and milk products along with plant-based foods. They omit eggs as well as meat, fish and poultry.

Lacto-ovo vegetarians eat eggs, milk and milk products, such as cheese and yogurt, in addition to plant-based foods. They omit red meat, fish and poultry.

Flexitarians (semivegetarians) primarily follow a plant-based diet but occasionally eat small amounts of meat, poultry or fish.

Source:

Dependent on the answer will depend on the types of food you can eat for optimal nutrition.


Best wishes to ALL!


Chillen
 
HoneyGirl said:
So far, I've found that greek yogurt doesn't have any additives to it (brands I've seen, anyways) and its a good source of protein. It's also quite delicious :)
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Any plain yogurt will not have added sugar, but flavored yogurts are typically sweetened. Plain yogurt will, of course, have sugar (lactose and/or glucose and galactose) from the milk, although the sugar content will vary due to how much of it has been eaten by the yogurt bacteria.
 
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