Jogging to loose beer gut

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tandk1597

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Hi all
I'm new to this forum & weight loss stuff , I'm 6'1" 230lbs now & am in terrible shape.
I started a diet of 1500 to 1900 cal a day & jogging(about 3 mph)5 or 6 days a week .
My question is, is this the best course of action, or should I break down & join a gym?:confused: I'd really like to get to 195 w/o a beer belly
 
good to hear you've started jogging. I like that you've added up your cals for the day - i like to help people, but its even better when you can see they are also putting their worth in

First off, the dreaded beer-gut! your stomach will adjust to high levels of fluid (beer) and also other biological happenings to cause your gut.

to get rid - you DONT need to go running, joggin, join a gym or anything like that... all you need is a change of DIET.

it sounds like you've started tho right? the diet will be the main part of reducing your gut, so as long as you stay off the beer, eat proper (maybe you could post you diet) and drink plenty of water, you'll be right in no time.

The jogging at slow pace is great for fat loss. keep that up for sure! If you can get to a gym as you are considering, then I definately would if i were you. it will help in the fat reduction (to a percenage) and you will feel alont better for it - at best, you will feel amazing and undergo a whole lifestyle change! i've done it myself so i'm speakin actual facts here (although i was opposite - 150 odd lbs)

post up your diet if you want and everyone will defo put their imput in and also, if your considering joining a gym, speak to me or any of the other members and i'd be glad to set up some form of workout for you to get you started - it makes me cringe some of the stuff i see new people doing at gyms!!!!!

good luck!
 
Steve said:
What exactly makes you cringe Wala?
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You know the types - they stand there for an hour in front of the mirror doing JUST bicep curls for the whole routine! Or the one's that do some bench.. then a bit of back work, then legs, then cardio, then some more bench and then arms!

New guys in the gym really need todo some research before entring the place. And all that without even thinking about what their diet is like!
 
wala said:
You know the types - they stand there for an hour in front of the mirror doing JUST bicep curls for the whole routine! Or the one's that do some bench.. then a bit of back work, then legs, then cardio, then some more bench and then arms!

New guys in the gym really need todo some research before entring the place. And all that without even thinking about what their diet is like!
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What is your normal training split like?
 
Steve said:
What is your normal training split like?
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At the moment I do the following:

Mon - Chest, back, shoulders
Tues - Legs, arms, core.
Wed - Rest
Thurst - as Mon
Fri - as Tues
Sat - Rest
Sun - Rest

Its a 6 week program im doing - never actually done a set program before. All the movents are opposites (or as close to) So bench for 6 - 8 reps (x 3 sets) then 3 sets of barbell rows - 8 - 10 reps etc

then on the same workout later on in the same week, i do back first with the 6 - 8 reps and then chest second for 8 - 10 reps.

Through the last 3 years of training, I have generally stuck to a body part or 2 per session and training each one once per week on the same days.

Im lookin forward to finishing the one im on at the mo, it seems a bit much all for one session and i dont feel as tho im full working each muscle (apart from legs days)

What about yourself mate?
 
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I tend to shy away from traditional body part splits. I train my body as a "unit" and not individualized parts, for a multitude of reasons. Generically though, that is how we operate in the real world, so why not train how we function. I believe our bodies respond better to this sort training stimulus a bit better too.

This is all relative to the fact that I base all my training philosophies off of natural lifters. Add drugs into the mix, and I would probably be doing a body part split.

Don't get me wrong, I have seen some impressive gains with people using a properly structured body part split. I, myself, gained a good bit of size following one. It is all about optimal training though.

Right now my training looks something like this:

Monday: Heavy Horizontal Push/Pull, Light Vertical Push/Pull
Tuesday: Heavy Quad, Light Posterior Chain
Thursday: Heavy Vertical Push/Pull, Light Horizontal Push/Pull
Saturday: Heavy Posterior Chain, Light Quad

LV is a prime example. He is one that follows, and I think promotes the use of body part training splits. Please correct me if I am wrong Lee.
 
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Sound's good Steve, I know a few guys that do a similar method to you. The only thing I regret is starting off originally doing body part splits. I've put on a stone or so a year doing it so i can't complain, but if i knew what i know now, I would have done the basics and stuck to compound movements.

At the moment, I'm looking to change things round, I quite like the sound of your routine, might have a chat with you about it soon...
 
wala said:
Sound's good Steve, I know a few guys that do a similar method to you. The only thing I regret is starting off originally doing body part splits. I've put on a stone or so a year doing it so i can't complain, but if i knew what i know now, I would have done the basics and stuck to compound movements.

At the moment, I'm looking to change things round, I quite like the sound of your routine, might have a chat with you about it soon...
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Anytime, and we can get into the science behind it too if you'd like. You know where to find me.
 
Steve said:
Anytime, and we can get into the science behind it too if you'd like. You know where to find me.
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Definately mate, I always prefer to know WHY I'm doing something rather than just doing it as I know I have to... and I certainly dont have all the answers either! lol I just know what I know from being interested in all this
 
wala said:
Definately mate, I always prefer to know WHY I'm doing something rather than just doing it as I know I have to... and I certainly dont have all the answers either! lol I just know what I know from being interested in all this
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Nobody has all the answers, trust me. I have chatted with some of the best strength coaches on the planet, and the great thing about a vast majority of them is this: they openly admit that they don't know everything, and constantly strive to learn more. When it comes to physiology and dietetics, learning is never-ending.
 
Steve said:
Nobody has all the answers, trust me. I have chatted with some of the best strength coaches on the planet, and the great thing about a vast majority of them is this: they openly admit that they don't know everything, and constantly strive to learn more. When it comes to physiology and dietetics, learning is never-ending.
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and thats why working out for guys like us will never become boring! always something to look forward to.
 
Thanks all for the advice/encouragment. Yes I have been watching my diet lately, It may not be the best, but it seems to work for me ( at least so far )


Breakfest:
8 oz lo fat yogurt, 8 oz lo fat granola w/ 2 oz mixed fruit
or
1 whole wheat bagel w/ 4 oz egg white or veggie cream cheese
&
44oz coffee w/ lo fat skim milk


Lunch:
6" subway turkey brest sandwhich on whole wheat w/ mustard & peppers
or
salad bowl from 7-11 (300 cal)
or
2 oranges
&
16 oz water

Dinner:
8-12 oz fish/chicken or beef over 1 cup brown rice or 1 cup mixed
veggies. &
24oz water.

Snack:
1 bag light lo fat micro popcorn
or
high protein bar (280-300 cals)
 
tandk1597 said:
Thanks all for the advice/encouragment. Yes I have been watching my diet lately, It may not be the best, but it seems to work for me ( at least so far )


Breakfest:
8 oz lo fat yogurt, 8 oz lo fat granola w/ 2 oz mixed fruit
or
1 whole wheat bagel w/ 4 oz egg white or veggie cream cheese
&
44oz coffee w/ lo fat skim milk


Lunch:
6" subway turkey brest sandwhich on whole wheat w/ mustard & peppers
or
salad bowl from 7-11 (300 cal)
or
2 oranges
&
16 oz water

Dinner:
8-12 oz fish/chicken or beef over 1 cup brown rice or 1 cup mixed
veggies. &
24oz water.

Snack:
1 bag light lo fat micro popcorn
or
high protein bar (280-300 cals)
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the actual food your consuming looks good mate. however, you would lose alot more weight if you split tho's meals up to make 5 - 7 smaller meals.

as you eat, you cause your body to become more metabolic - it has to work to process the food you have eaten. If you eat more times in a day, the process will happen more times in a day and therefore, you will spend a larger proportion of the day using energy (your fat stores) Yet, at the same time, you are still only eating the same amount of food - just at more spaced out periods..

Of course, your daily routine will come into this - lots of people dont have the TIME to eat lots of little meals.. but if you can work something out - then DO! :)
 
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