I've tried a lot of stuff. Here's what I have to say.

I'm reading a lot of threads on this forum and other forums typed up by people that are doling out advice on how to lose weight and look great, and most of them involve some kind of supplement and/or personal trainer. Too many links. Too much junk. I'm big on absorbing knowledge about my hobbies, and working out has been a hobby of mine for a number of years, and I've done just about everything under the sun. High rep, low rep, HIIT, steady state cardio, supplements, natural, bulking, cutting.. all of it. I'm writing this thread to debunk anything I can from what I have done.

First off, most of all supplements are junk. You do not need whey protein to gain muscle and size. You don't. I promise. A "good" tub of whey can range from $30-$50. Now, put that same tub of protein up against what food you can buy with that same amount of money. I'll tell you right now that you can buy a 10lb bag of raw chicken from Costco for $20. Give me that, a sac of brown rice and some veggies instead of a tub of whey any day. You also do not need a weight gain shake to put on mass for the exact same reasons that you don't need whey. Just buy food. It's going to be better for your body, you'll get more bang for the buck and your stomach will be able to process it better. Now, I know everybody is going to cry about "What about my protein shake after I workout????". No. Go home and eat a meal. Have something with protein, carbs, fats and cals. If you don't want a meal quite yet, go home and have a big glass of milk and a big spoon of natural peanut butter. I've used cheap whey, expensive whey, whey isolate and I stopped using it completely, and I never noticed a difference, until I stopped drinking shakes and just started eating more. Creatine is another one. That's a touchy subject. I've used creatine, yes, and yes, I have noticed differences while using it. Not in size, but during my actual workout. For a heavy regimen workout, I would recommend creatine. Simply for the recovery between sets factor. I noticed during heavy 5x5 workouts, while using creatine that my energy replenishes quicker between sets, and that's what creatine is for, to help your body replenish your ATP supply between sets of high energy expenditure. Now, if you think you're going to start taking creatine and get huge, you're wrong. It's no wonder supp. You still need to eat and rest, and the thing about having to take it with-in 37 seconds of finishing your workout is a myth. I've taken it after my workout and in the morning with my viatmins and fish oil, and I didn't notice a difference at all. When I continued to take it, I would just drink it in the morning. The fact that it's in your system is what matters. Now, if you're lifting medium weight or high reps, I wouldn't bother with it, because your rest time when lifting in those ranges in shorter than when lifting heavy anyway, so you won't notice a difference when you're only taking a 30 second or so break before jumping back in. Another supp that is widely viewed as being a "wonder" drug are test boosters and n.o. pills. These are junk. When I got into lifting years ago, I purchased a product called Cyclo Bolan and then Six Star Test Booster. They don't do anything but make your heart race and give you anxiety. They're a waste of money and made me fell terrible and unable to sleep at night. They did nothing for my actual workout either. Don't bother with them. I currently am not using any supps, and haven't for quite some time. I take a multi in the morning with a separate D-vitamin and 2,000mg of Fish Oil a day.

Now, as far as lifting is concerned, that's a touchy subject as well. Different people swear by different routines. There is a guy at my gym who is huge. He eats constantly and is just a big guy. He also can't squat 200lbs. He can't bench 200 either. Don't even ask him to dead lift. This guy high reps everything with light weight and eats like a horse. I can lift much more than this guy, but next to me he looks like Hercules. There is another guy at my gym who does nothing but, squat, bench, clean and press, dead lift, pull-ups and sled pulls. He's not as big as I am, but he can clean a lot more than I can and his squats blow mine out of the water. He primarily works in a pyramid scheme. Then there's me. Most of the time I focus on 5x5. Since I came back from a severe bout of tendinitis earlier this year, I have only worked with 5x5 to get my strength back up until a switched to a pyramid routine a couple weeks ago. I've seen my best gains doing compound 5x5 stuff. When I started out lifting, the guy that I was lifting with was huge on going 1rm then doing a bunch of light weight, high rep stuff which did absolutely nothing for me but make me sore and miserable. It wasn't until about a year into serious lifting that I started to read and branch out to different stuff to find out what was going to work for me and what wasn't. You need to do this. Just because Hugh Jackman has big arms and huge traps on the cover of Men's Fitness magazine from doing the "Wolverine" workout, doesn't mean that doing the same thing is going to work for you. What I've been trying to say in this paragraph of ranting is that you need to try different stuff. Don't do leg presses, sit-ups, dumb bell curls and bench press and expect to be transformed. Sometimes(A lot of the time) it just doesn't work like that. Body's aren't built overnight. Everything you do in the gym is trial and error.

Gaining muscle and losing fat. This is very easy. This is not some crazy science that everyone is making it out to be. You can't get on a forum complaining that you aren't losing weight running 5 miles a day and having hamburgers for dinner every night. You know exactly what is good for you and what isn't, and if you don't, then you probably deserve to be fat. To gain muscle, you have to eat. Plain and simple. You are going to gain some fat. Plain and simple. You are not going to stay shredded and gain muscle unless you're using gear. It's a pretty simple rule actually. If you workout, along with your other daily activities and your body uses a total of 2,500 cals a day to fuel itself and you want to gain muscle, then you need to eat 3,000. Your muscles aren't going to grow if there isn't a surplus of food for them to use. That's called bulking. And I know what you're asking, "But what about the 15g of protein per pound of body weight I need every day??? Protein makes musclez brah!!" Protein is important, yes, but it's not the wonder food that everyone thinks that it is. It's simply a corner stone for building muscle. You need everything. Carbs and good fats. You can't eat 6lbs of baked chicken every day and expect to get huge. Protein isn't steroids. Get over it. Now, if you want to lose weight, and between working out and your other daily activities, your body uses 2,500 cals a day, then you need to eat 2,000. That's 1lb a week. That's safe number. That's cutting. Bulking is the easy part. Cutting is the hard part. Some people will tell you that when cutting, you need to do high rep lifts to lose fat and get toned. This is complete crap. You will lose muscle. Muscles grow for two reasons, 1) Because you eat a surplus of food, and 2)Because your body needs them. When you lift more than you're used to, your body creates muscle to compensate for the stress that it is under. Kind of like developing calluses on your hands when doing hard work. Your body is adapting. So, when you are eating in a deficit to lose fat, why would you lift light? Your body is going to think that you don't need the muscle anymore, and it certainly isn't getting the surplus of food it needs to keep the muscle, so it's going to get rid of it. It is very important that when you are cutting, that you keep lifting heavy to tell your body that even though you are eating in a deficit of food, you still need the muscle that you have. There have been so many times that I've wanted to tape "trainers" mouths shut at gyms I've worked out at who have told people that. It's stupid, terrible advice.

Get Rest!! Your body ins't going to take well to you working out all the time and sleeping six hours a night. Trust me. You need rest to heal. That's when your body does its repairs. I say no less than 7 hours a night. Some people say more than that, but a lack of sleep will screw up everything. Your body won't process food properly, and you'll feel worthless in the gym after 10 minutes. Kids need a lot of sleep while they're growing. How should this be any different for an adult who is building muscle? I've also noticed over the years that a lack of sleep will cause unwanted DOMS(Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness). For me anyway. It's very important to not run your body into the ground.

I've been typing for quite some time now, so I'm going to give it a rest. I hope any of this is helpful to anybody who made it all the way through. Feedback is always welcome.
 
One guy I noticed was trying to prep for a local body building competition, and listening in on some really bad advice being given to others more public about it.
I spoke to him and he agreed to follow my guidance on prep rather than struggling on his own. Quite a big deal to take advice from one of the scrawniest guys there but he did it.
Diet was just below what he needed. He had 3 months to get down to weight so there wasn't a rush and he needed fuel to train. I explained that the muscles he wanted to show were those used in heavy lifts so the high rep work would make them either disappear or look unused. I also found out about what he was using to ensure the training got the best out of it. This combined with some dance experience to get him a great posing routine got him 2nd place in his weight class, 1st was substantially ahead of the game, 4th overall, and he would need a few years more to beat him. The others from the gym were shocked to see him there and gobsmacked to see him finish ahead of all of them.
There are so many stupid myths around, especially in bodybuilding. Must take this powder, can't do aerobic stuff. Some crazy advice I have heard for competition prep, eating baby food, water only days, stop training the week before, all insane and outstandingly wrong.

You need to find what works best for you, as Justin says, we are genetically unique, unless twins etc. so even though broad brush guidance is good, the specifics are often very different. There are a number of things you need ot consider when setting up workouts some obvious others less so, but all important.
What you enjoy. If you hate it, find something else. Yes squats are great, but if you really don't like them do something else instead. If you want to get bigger but hate weights, you can still do it but will need more patience.
What you want. Isn't that obvious? Actually no, many don't really know exactly what they want. If unsure do general fitness work, then find what you really want to do, this will change. I have seen women go from wanting trim magazine bodies to heavier weighted body-builder. Men going for bulk then decide to try distance cycling. What you want will effect your choices.
Time. We can all find time to train if we want to, but priorities are personal. I love training but I love my family more and that brings with it the need to work. If you have 3 or 4 hours a week to train, don't aim for the Kona ironman. If you have to train daily, competition body building is likely not for you.
Environmental. What's around you, is there a good iron gym, great power-lifting time, desert, maybe the ski-jumping isn't a goer. Be realistic and work with what you have.
Ability. As someone who has pushed past what most would have called impossible for me, self included, I still know that there are some things i just cannot do. Don't just sit and take it, work to overcome, but don't depress yourself if you don't become the next olympic gold medal winner either.

Make mistakes, and learn from them, or even better learn from those others made instead. Seeing someone who has the look or ability you want doesn't mean copy them, it means ask them what they did, the look could be a byproduct, and ability may be from decades of doing just one thing.
 
I generally agree with what's been said, although I'd personally make the amendment for a smaller surplus while bulking. Maybe my training methods just haven't been what I need to stimulate much growth, but I've found that 500kcal/day (1lb/wk) growth just makes me fat, while a slower rate of weight gain has gotten people commenting this year on all sorts of visible gains I've apparently been making (I'm yet to notice it in the mirror, but being ever so humble I wouldn't dream of denying the compliments I've been getting). I'd extend that point to say that people tend to have overzealous expectations of the results they'll get from training. "Gain 10lb of muscle in 2 weeks," "Lose 10lb in 5 days." Not gonna happen. You gain weight faster than you need to in order to accommodate muscle gains, and the additional weight will primarily be fat. You lose more than 1-2lb/wk, and it's highly likely that a large portion of what you're losing is not fat. I'd really like to see people getting excited about the prospect of slow results, because in general, slow results are real results, fast results are not.
 
Yeah, different people have different results when bulking. I actually find that most of the time I end up eating more than 500 a day, but I'm a function over form kind of guy, so I'm not going to look in the mirror and cry when my stomach doesn't look like Matthew McConaughey's... which it never has anyway :D
 
I'm not sure function over form is a great reason to be going overboard on the surplus, honestly. I mean, excess fat =/= excess strength (even though insufficient fat does, from what I hear, = insufficient strength). Obviously, you've been using your body for a long time, so you know what works for you better than I do, and excess fat does have some function (helps you float, helps you survive longer in the cold/without food, helps you win in tug'o'war as you become an immovable object). My experience has been that my function improves at about the same rate when consuming a modest surplus compared to a greater surplus, and a greater surplus just means more time cutting later on to keep me out of a hospital bed, which is more time spent not getting stronger, so even from a function over form POV, I'd still lean more towards a smaller surplus than a greater surplus most of the time. This will of course vary depending on specific goals, experience, and hormones (if you've got the hormone profile to produce greater amounts of lean tissue, go for a greater surplus, if you've got the hormone profile to produce relatively little lean tissue, go for a smaller surplus; thus for roided up men, they can probably stand to gain weight at a greater rate than if they were natural, and natural women would probably want to be in an even smaller surplus than the 250kcal/day or 0.5lb/wk surplus I've suggested here).
 
I mean function over form in moderation of course. I'm not fat or over weight by any means. That big fat guy at the gym who's lifting and eating and never cutting pretty much makes "function" useless. There was a guy who lifted at a gym I used to go to who's warm-up bench was 225 lbs. I've never seen him lift lighter than that. He was a beast, but he was a fat load. He could lift all day, but he would need a break after a walk up a long flight of stairs. That's beyond "too much", which I will never be. My problem is that I'm 6'5, and a bulk cycle for me, while showing increases in my lifts, could possibly show very little difference in actual size. I know it means a longer cut later, but I've found better visual results bulking longer and eating a bit more than normal.
 
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