Sport isagenix

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Hi there,

Im new the these forums so sorry if this is in the incorrect area.

Firstly I have lost 30kgs in the gym loving my progress and everything HOWEVER my PT trainer has now gone on something called isagenix. Now my trainer is/was a bit of an asshole. There were some times I didnt want to go down because of this. Ever since he has started taking this stuff he is a different person. Hes not stressed and he feels amazing. Hes like 10kg in 22days from this stuff and I just wanted to get peoples opinions on this.

Here is the website



Basically you pay $700 NZD for the first 30 days which includes proteins, bars, cleansing suppliments.. everything you need for the first 30 days.

The things that are putting me off are the following

1. Cleansing - I dont know a great deal about cleansing - I know the basic stuff about it however If I was to just do the 30 days and then go back to eating healthy and gyming I'd like to know if I was going to put that weight back on or not??

2. The price - however if you sign people up (2 people + ) you will make your 700 dollars back so that part is appealing due to the fact I can make the money back and there isnt much to lose money wise.

Has anybody been on something like this or is on isagenix? I know it works because ive seen the results for myself as there is around 10-12 people at the gym doing it and the results are amazing but If anybody has been on something like this involving cleansing and they stop doing it then do you just suddenly start putting on the weight again?

I hope this makes sense. Feel free to ask questions as I said im new here and just want to get any advice possible.

Thanks
 
Assuming the part 'Hes like 10kg in 22days from this stuff' was supposed to say 'Hes lost 10kg in 22days from this stuff' purely because even on growth hormone people tend not to gain that amount of muscle in such a short time.
There are various exercise and diet plans designed to make people leaner in short time frames. Some are more honest like insanity which says up front you need to be bloody fit to even manage the workouts, while others are less so.
I don't tend to go in for the quick fix world because I have seen too many yo-yoing around further and further out of shape while I have taken the 'slower' route and gained what they wanted in far quicker times that I have been able to keep and improve on. That said I have seen people use quick fix to get them a desired target then go for the long term styles to keep what they gained straight after it. Success following the program is totally dependant on your discipline and you have to be honest with yourself here because most will binge after something like this.

10kg loss in 22 days will not all be fat, and the most recommended loss in a week for long term is around 1kg, however the hardcore fitness fanatics can double this without dying if they choose to. I will explain below, because I am used to dealing with imperial body weights please remember 1 kilo is approx. 2.2 pounds.

1 pound of fat = 3,500 calories
Average calorie requirement for woman per day 1,500
Average calorie requirement for man per day 2,000
Average human calorie requirement per day 1,750 (average of 2 above), which is half a pound of fat
Therefore 1 pound of fat loss in 1 week requires you to burn 500 calories a day more than you consume.
Scaling up 1 kilo of fat loss in 1 week requires you to burn 1,100 calories a day more than you consume. This is the upper limit for the average person without shifting to starvation zone.
If you are already very fit you will likely be used to burning a lot more than the average amount of energy. So instead of your body needing 1,500 or 2,000 calories a day it will be used to dealing with far more. As an example I consume 3,500 to 4,000 calories and my weight varies very little.
So for someone like me adding an extra 1,000 calories usage a day for a short time is no big deal, in fact it would just be a matter of running 8 miles a day or equivalent extra. Cutting my food intake by 1,500 calories a day shouldn't put me in starvation zone either so I could safely, if not happily as I would feel hungry, be consuming 2,500 calories less a day than I am burning.
That would give me a loss of just over 2 kilos a week. But at the end of it my body would be screaming at me to eat more and I would have to be very disciplined not to just grab the nearest catering sized chocolate cake and eat the lot.
You will also note this would give me around 7 kilos in 22 days not 10. The remaining 3 would be a mixture of catabolism, body breaking down muscle, which happens to you every time you train to some degree, and dehydration.
Catabolised muscle generally comes back if you train well and there is enough energy to rebuild it, the diet and training program would mean this not being the case. High protein diets without the carbs and spare calories to go with it during this type of overtraining is the equivalent of someone delivering a few pallets of bricks and two builders too patch up the house and build an extension while there is another guy there with a sledgehammer knocking down the walls. It will help but not stand a chance of doing what you need. I have a bit of a pop at high protein diets in general because they are totally against the way we have evolved to be and sold reliant on people not having read about the way the human body works, I have.
Water loss is weight that will come back, the human animal will not be able to maintain this for long. We are pathetic with water loss, dying from dehydration at loss percentages that would barely make a chimp thirsty.

If you want to use a program like this be prepared for the after effects. Water weight will return within days or max a week. You will want the muscle back and that will be some weight. You will have been losing at the maximum your body can work safely short term or possibly beyond it so will have your body screaming for food, especially simple sugars You will need to be disciplined get in a decent diet with plenty of complex carbs, moderate fats and proteins with minimal sugars to ensure you control the diet not your desire.
Use the mirror rather than the scales to guage your progress. It is a far better way to assess how your training is going if aesthetic is your goal.
 
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