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Hi I just started using Serious Mass (Chocolate) in order to gain some muscle mass because I'm a pretty lean guy looking to gain bigger muscles. However, I'm just wondering whether or not Serious Mass will prohibit me from getting a well defined sixpack considering the amount of calorie present per serving (1250).
I workout everyday and work on different parts of my body but always train my abs after each workout. I do 15 mins of interval training before each workout too. However I'm afraid that if I continue consuming one serving of Serious Mass + my daily consumption of fat, proteins and carbs, that ill be gaining mucle mass but will also be gaining excess fat on my stomache...
So my question is: if I'm looking to get big arms and chests but keep the fat low in my stomache for a sixpack, should I continue consuming a single serving of Serious Mass per day or reduce the amount of fats I eat on a regular basis?

Help is much appreciated thanks!!
 
Some beginners can gain muscle while losing fat, but for the most part you need a calorie surplus to put on muscle. While losing fat, you will also lose some muscle. Bodybuilders go through "bulking" and "cutting" phases. During "bulking" they will build muscle and add fat. When cutting, they lose fat while continuing to exercise in order to maintain as much of the muscle as possible. The product you describe is designed for "bulking."

You cannot determine where the fat will be lost. If you tend to gain fat first on your belly, it will be the last place you lose the fat from.
 
Harold14370 said:
Some beginners can gain muscle while losing fat, but for the most part you need a calorie surplus to put on muscle. While losing fat, you will also lose some muscle. Bodybuilders go through "bulking" and "cutting" phases. During "bulking" they will build muscle and add fat. When cutting, they lose fat while continuing to exercise in order to maintain as much of the muscle as possible. The product you describe is designed for "bulking."

You cannot determine where the fat will be lost. If you tend to gain fat first on your belly, it will be the last place you lose the fat from.
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hmm...that's disappointing considering i really want to bulk up my arms and reduce the fat in my stomach..so basically you're telling me i have to get fat first in order to 'bulk up' and then eventually burn the excess fat while continually building the muscle on my arms and other parts of my body to prevent them from depleting? If my workouts are medium intense (because i have no personal trainer), how much is the recommended caloric excess i should have in order for them to turn into muscle and not fat?

Honestly, the workouts i do aren't enough to burn even close to all the calories i eat in a day (though i spend roughly 90 mins in the gym each day). This is because i also eat normal food during the day which consists of steak for protein, spaghetti for fats and carbs, and chicken. i'm having enough trouble converting and burning fats into muscle from the steak + Serious Mass to worry about the extra calories in the spaghetti, which are probably going to my stomach to form unwanted fat. SO do you think i should cut down on the spaghetti?

(And sorry but what do you mean by "beginners"?)
 
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Beginners are those who are not now doing any weightlifting type exercises.

I'm not really an expert on the subject, so I would suggest reading some of the sticky threads on this site, or read this.
 
Honestly, the workouts i do aren't enough to burn even close to all the calories i eat in a day
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Then you're going to gain fat.

Why on EARTH do you need a "mass gainer", much less one that is 1200 calories? That's utterly ridiculous.

If you want to gain muscle, then eat about 1.2-1.5g of protein per pound of body weight, eat enough calories to support growth, but not so many that you pack on the fat, and lift weights.

I'd suggest you check out the Lyle McDonald website and forums if you're really interested in muscle growth.
 
Kara, do you have the link for Lyle's website? I'd be interested in it too.

EDIT: I think I found it.




Google is tough.
 
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KaraCooks said:
Then you're going to gain fat.

Why on EARTH do you need a "mass gainer", much less one that is 1200 calories? That's utterly ridiculous.

If you want to gain muscle, then eat about 1.2-1.5g of protein per pound of body weight, eat enough calories to support growth, but not so many that you pack on the fat, and lift weights.

I'd suggest you check out the Lyle McDonald website and forums if you're really interested in muscle growth.
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Well obviously this Serious Mass I've been consuming also gives 50grams protein, 250 grams carbs, and only 40 of the 1250 calories per serving is from fat. It serves as a perfect meal replacement for those who intend "bulk up" and forget about the fat around their body. I've decided to cut down on this Serious Mass blasphemy and have settled to half a servings ONLY on training days. Also, I always add 20 grams or so protein per serving from a third party source and as I said before, I eat steak every day which gives a good 50 grams or so of protein. As I can see it, with just the half serving of Serious Mass in addition to protein and carb rich foods, I'm getting the recommended intake of protein per day (for building muscle) BUT I'm still struggling to find the balance between eat JUST enough calories to burn into muscle and have no excess in the stomach regions.

I can't seem to find any post regarding this issue so I'm guessing its just too much of a general quetion to be answered.
So ill state down some facts;
Each day I fill up on carbs before heading to the gym (at around 1pm) I do 15 minutes of slow and intense interval training on the bicycle machine.
Next I work on the dominant muscle (chest for example) I want to train for about 30 minutes using enoguh weights for me to really push myself for about 8 reps x 3 sets.
I then move on the other muscles such as triceps and do moderate routines for another 30 mins or so (I sitll push myself and sweat quite a lot during this).
After, I move on to abs and spend 15 or so minutes doing crunches and leg raises.
LASTLY (thought I rarely do this in the same session but tend to do it in the evening I move to the treadmill and jog for about 10 minutes and power walk for 15 minutes)

AFTER and DURING training I consume half a serving of Serious Mass (about 125 carbs, 25 grams protein, 600ish calories) + 20 grams of normal supplemental protein) in small and controlled sips.
Then after I straight away eat either 400 grams of steak OR chicken breasts.
I normally give myself an hour or so resting period to digest then I usually do my deltoids at 20 reps x 3 sets..


Is this routine good and is there any adjustments that can be made? It might be useful to know that the muscles I trained feel tense and "hardened" even through the next day though I still have some annoying fat on my belly regions which are so hard to get rid of...are there any exercises aimed especially at those regions?

(This question is for anybody..sorry I typed a mini essay lol)
 
You could just eat real food with the same effect and less calories.

Maltodextrin, Protein Blend (Whey Protein Concentrate, Calcium Caseinate, Egg Albumin, Sweet Dairy Whey), Cocoa (Processed With Alkali), Natural And Artificial Flavor, Vitamin And Mineral Blend (DiPotassium Phosphate, Magnesium Aspartate, DiCalcium Phosphate, Calcium Citrate, Ascorbic Acid, Niacinamide, Zinc Citrate, Beta Carotene, D-Calcium Pantothenate, D-Alpha Tocopheryl Succinate, Selenomethionine, Copper Gluconate, Ferrous Fumarate, Manganese Amino Acid Chelate, Thiamin Mononitrate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin, Chromium Polynicotinate, Folic Acid, Biotin, Molybdenum Amino Acid Chelate, Cholecalciferol, Potassium Iodide, Cyanocobalamin), Acesulfame Potassium, Lecithin, Medium Chain Triglycerides.


That is what is in this crap. The very first item is a food additive. Maltodextrin is a polysaccharide that is used as a food additive. It is produced from starch by partial hydrolysis and is usually found as a creamy-white hygroscopic spraydried powder. Maltodextrin is easily digestible, being absorbed as rapidly as glucose, and might be either moderately sweet or almost flavorless. It is commonly used for the production of natural sodas.


Instead you could eat..I don't know..fish or chicken.
 
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Next I work on the dominant muscle (chest for example) I want to train for about 30 minutes using enoguh weights for me to really push myself for about 8 reps x 3 sets.
I then move on the other muscles such as triceps and do moderate routines for another 30 mins or so (I sitll push myself and sweat quite a lot during this).
After, I move on to abs and spend 15 or so minutes doing crunches and leg raises.
LASTLY (thought I rarely do this in the same session but tend to do it in the evening I move to the treadmill and jog for about 10 minutes and power walk for 15 minutes)
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This may be the most useless routine for building muscle I've ever read on this site.

Please read the thread that is stickied in the exercise area titled "The Conceptual Side of Weight Lifting". Then read any other post by Steve in that area.

You really need to rethink your whole process for building muscle - boht workouts and diet.
 
fugar said:
BUT I'm still struggling to find the balance between eat JUST enough calories to burn into muscle and have no excess in the stomach regions.
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You and everybody else!! I agree read Lyle's articles he's got good stuff

Basically if you want to gain muscle with minimum fat gain then you do around 2-3 full body workouts a week (there's many variations to this such as split workouts, read Lyle's articles), eat around 300 cals above maintenance while having 1.5-3g of protein per lb of body weight.

If you want to lose fat you eat at a caloric deficit, and to keep your muscles you still need the same amount of protein and intensity in the gym (ie don't lighten your weights, but you can get away with doing less reps). Don't go to the gym more than 2-3 times a week while dieting also..will kill your recovery time
 
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