In my opinion there's absolutely no point in supplementing unless you have the fundamentals down.
Whatever tiny benefit a supplement *might* add is completely erased plus some without consistent application of the fundamentals.
Not sure if this helps...or what you're referring to....and I'd be interested in what Steve and some of the other knowledgeable people feel..
But I've been "supplementing" my diet with whey protein shakes..
Nothing but the powder and 1% milk..
It's simply because I find it hard to consume the grams of protein I need to help preserve the muscle I have while I diet....not only because of finding the protein rich foods that are also "diet friendly" and not "getting sick" of it...but also because with a busy life (work, working out, kids' schedules) it's nice to know I have that ready protein right there...
A shake equals 42 grams of protein...
FWIW...
As someone that spent the better part of a decade trying just about every protein powder, and supplement short of pro hormones- which never seemed like a good idea, I can tell you with complete honesty that NO supplement on the market today will make anything easier. On the contrary they could set you back as you spend all that money and effort consuming what are essentially artificial food forms as opposed to real food.
Even protein powder is a huge no-no to anyone worth their salt in the natural bodybuilding and fitness world trying to get into optimal shape- you are always better off consuming real food in adequate amounts (and by real I mean foods that your great grandparents would recognize), and by training hard and consistently. Everything falls into place after that.
To the above poster, what would you recommend as a post work-out protein source then? Just like milk/yogurt? The whey protein makes it a lot easier for me I think.
Also, Steve any opinions on creatine? A friend got me some for my birthday so I started taking one dose every morning with my breakfast. He's claimed to have noticed an improvement with his performance with it. I personally saw him doing markedly better. Having more endurance for the later exercises (his weighted dips seemed to shoot up all of a sudden.) Obviously, it can't be said for sure it was the creatine at all though.