Intro/looking for advice

My name is Eric, I have been working out casually for a few years in which time I have built some muscle mass. I am Looking for a push in the right direction and an idea of what my goals should be from the experts. I just started taking cardio seriously in the last 3 months, I haven’t been on a real set routine and was looking for a bit of guidance. My goals would be to get more definition (don’t want to be totally cut) and add a bit more size along with loosing weight and being able to run a 5k in a respectable time. I don’t plan on or want to be an endurance runner but I do like it for cardio when my legs hold up. I can do a 5k now usually in about 30 minutes.

I started using more dumbbells then the machines. I’m a little discouraged, as I don’t seem to be pushing nearly as much weight as I do on the machines and feel like I’m not accomplishing as much sometimes.(I’ll post what I was typically doing on a machine for comparison) The lb value is the size dumbbell I use in each hand.

I weighed 240 lbs when I started cardio seriously and am down to 220. I still have no idea what my goal weight should be to get more definition. I do have some definition in my arms, biceps, triceps, etc and you can see the outer edges of my abs without me “sucking it in” but I still have some belly left as well.

Age=34
Height=5 foot 10 inches
Weight=220 lbs
Waist=39 inches
Hip=40 inches
Wrist=7.5 inches
Forearm=12.5 inches
Bicep=16.5 inches
Bodyfat=22 to 25% ballpark(using pictures as a guide and calculator with above measurements)

*=Not an exercise I did much in the past so working it up

Lately my workout looks something like this:

M\W\F-
5k on treadmill in 30 minute range(I do throw some sprints in there as well, run usual pace of 6.5 to 7 for ¼ lap, run pace of 11 to 12 for ¼ lap go back to 6.5 to 7 for ¼ of a lap. I’ll do this 3 or 4 times during the 5k. Sometimes I’m not pushing as hard because of Shin splints(I do have good support shoes) but always end up with a shirt soaked in sweat.

Elliptical for 10 to 15 minutes or do various weight training exercises I can fit into this time.


T\R-
20 minute run, some sprinting as above usually end up around 2 miles. I do cardio first and sometimes don’t have as much strength for the weight training then.

Hammer curls- 3/10 (25 lbs to 35lbs) easy on low end and sometimes hard on high.
(Not used machine in a long time to compare)

*Arm raises- 3/10 (15 to 25 lbs) 15 lbs very easy, 25 lbs very hard
(Not used machine in a long time to compare)

Shrugs-3/10 (60 to 70 lbs) pretty easy
(Not used machine in a long time to compare)

Bench press-3/10 (40 to 50 lbs) still feeling my way out but this seems easy.
(Machine = 3/10 225 to 275lbs)

Fly-3/10 (15 to 25lbs) 15 lbs very easy, 25 lbs very hard
(Machine = 3/10 150 to 200 lbs)

Still use machines on the following

Triceps push-3/10 (80 to 110 lbs)-The higher weight can be a stugle)

*Military press-3/10 (100 to 130 lbs)

Seated row-3/10 (150 to 200lbs)

Ø Usually don’t do legs as they are jelly from the running, I am happy with the way my legs look as the do get a good workout between the running and the elliptical but wouldn’t be opposed to adding work on them if necessary.


Squats-3/10 (250 to 350lbs)

Calf raises-3/10 (250 to 350lbs)


I have access to:
Treadmill, elliptical, stationary bike, full set of dumbbells and adjustable bench. Machines= Seated press, seated row, military press, pull down, fly (forward & reverse), Triceps push down, Bicep curl, leg press, leg curl, Squat/calve raise.


I thank you for taking the time to read this and advice is greatly appreciated.
 
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You dont have to run so much. Cut that back and go with a better weight training routine. Running doesnt count for a leg workout.

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pestario said:
My name is Eric, I have been working out casually for a few years in which time I have built some muscle mass. I am Looking for a push in the right direction and an idea of what my goals should be from the experts. I just started taking cardio seriously in the last 3 months, I haven’t been on a real set routine and was looking for a bit of guidance. My goals would be to get more definition (don’t want to be totally cut) and add a bit more size along with loosing weight and being able to run a 5k in a respectable time. I don’t plan on or want to be an endurance runner but I do like it for cardio when my legs hold up. I can do a 5k now usually in about 30 minutes.

I started using more dumbbells then the machines. I’m a little discouraged, as I don’t seem to be pushing nearly as much weight as I do on the machines and feel like I’m not accomplishing as much sometimes.(I’ll post what I was typically doing on a machine for comparison) The lb value is the size dumbbell I use in each hand.

I weighed 240 lbs when I started cardio seriously and am down to 220. I still have no idea what my goal weight should be to get more definition. I do have some definition in my arms, biceps, triceps, etc and you can see the outer edges of my abs without me “sucking it in” but I still have some belly left as well.

Age=34
Height=5 foot 10 inches
Weight=220 lbs
Waist=39 inches
Hip=40 inches
Wrist=7.5 inches
Forearm=12.5 inches
Bicep=16.5 inches
Bodyfat=22 to 25% ballpark(using pictures as a guide and calculator with above measurements)

*=Not an exercise I did much in the past so working it up

Lately my workout looks something like this:

M\W\F-
5k on treadmill in 30 minute range(I do throw some sprints in there as well, run usual pace of 6.5 to 7 for ¼ lap, run pace of 11 to 12 for ¼ lap go back to 6.5 to 7 for ¼ of a lap. I’ll do this 3 or 4 times during the 5k. Sometimes I’m not pushing as hard because of Shin splints(I do have good support shoes) but always end up with a shirt soaked in sweat.

Elliptical for 10 to 15 minutes or do various weight training exercises I can fit into this time.


T\R-
20 minute run, some sprinting as above usually end up around 2 miles. I do cardio first and sometimes don’t have as much strength for the weight training then.

Hammer curls- 3/10 (25 lbs to 35lbs) easy on low end and sometimes hard on high.
(Not used machine in a long time to compare)

*Arm raises- 3/10 (15 to 25 lbs) 15 lbs very easy, 25 lbs very hard
(Not used machine in a long time to compare)

Shrugs-3/10 (60 to 70 lbs) pretty easy
(Not used machine in a long time to compare)

Bench press-3/10 (40 to 50 lbs) still feeling my way out but this seems easy.
(Machine = 3/10 225 to 275lbs)

Fly-3/10 (15 to 25lbs) 15 lbs very easy, 25 lbs very hard
(Machine = 3/10 150 to 200 lbs)

Still use machines on the following

Triceps push-3/10 (80 to 110 lbs)-The higher weight can be a stugle)

*Military press-3/10 (100 to 130 lbs)

Seated row-3/10 (150 to 200lbs)

Ø Usually don’t do legs as they are jelly from the running, I am happy with the way my legs look as the do get a good workout between the running and the elliptical but wouldn’t be opposed to adding work on them if necessary.


Squats-3/10 (250 to 350lbs)

Calf raises-3/10 (250 to 350lbs)


I have access to:
Treadmill, elliptical, stationary bike, full set of dumbbells and adjustable bench. Machines= Seated press, seated row, military press, pull down, fly (forward & reverse), Triceps push down, Bicep curl, leg press, leg curl, Squat/calve raise.


I thank you for taking the time to read this and advice is greatly appreciated.


What I notice right away is that your arm strength is lagging but your leg strength is amazing. Whan you say squat do you mean leg press or leg extention or do you really mean squat? It is wonderful if you can squat that much but to put this into perspective for you I have all your lifts beaten by at least double except your squat which you hold over me. Is this related to lifestyle?

I think running is a good thing to do and that twenty minutes is the perfect length of time to do it for your case. Your legs recover faster than your upper body if worked consistantly and the slow twitch and fast twitch muscle fibers have more seperation than in the upper body. What this translates to is if you do your squats lunges leg extentions and calves on day one and run on day five you will probably not overtrain your legs. Just be sure that you are already adapted to one leg routine before jumping into two.

I am wondering what your split looks like. You named off a lot of lifts thrown in together. Is this your one day workout? How many days a week do you workout and do you do anything else in your life that contributes to your progress? (Bike riding, mountian climbing, active job, Ex-track star ect) And what do you want to look like? Is there a celebrity that you can name so I have a goal in my mind?
 
Hi Eric,
If I read your post right, you are doing 20-30 minutes of interval cardio BEFORE you weight train ?? In my opinion that will hamper your weight training. I would definitely weight train first. I do think that doing the interval cardio first is affecting the amount of weight you are lifting.
 
jpc1058 said:
Hi Eric,
If I read your post right, you are doing 20-30 minutes of interval cardio BEFORE you weight train ?? In my opinion that will hamper your weight training. I would definitely weight train first. I do think that doing the interval cardio first is affecting the amount of weight you are lifting.

You are right, it does hamper my weight training. I had been concentratiting on cardio to loose the weight (lost about 18 lbs so far), still got about 10 to 15+ lbs to loose. This is why I was doing cardio first as it was more my focus. Now I am getting back on weights a bit more again, but I'm still trying to find that balance.

When I wieght train before cardio it does hamper my cardio some as well, or at least it did before I started loosing the weight, havent tried doing cardio last since I started dropping the pounds.
 
Mr.Ninjaface said:
What I notice right away is that your arm strength is lagging but your leg strength is amazing. Whan you say squat do you mean leg press or leg extention or do you really mean squat? It is wonderful if you can squat that much but to put this into perspective for you I have all your lifts beaten by at least double except your squat which you hold over me. Is this related to lifestyle?

I am wondering what your split looks like. You named off a lot of lifts thrown in together. Is this your one day workout? How many days a week do you workout and do you do anything else in your life that contributes to your progress? (Bike riding, mountian climbing, active job, Ex-track star ect) And what do you want to look like? Is there a celebrity that you can name so I have a goal in my mind?

The routine I named above was my old one where I just did whatever looked good with no real purpose, (I am so embaressed) I started doing a new routine by Chad Waterbury, where there is more of a focus and purpose on the routine.

When I listed off my workout I listed the size dumbell, so when I said Bench press 50lbs, it was actually 100lbs. I can do up to 300lbs on the press machine but want to start using free weights. I am working my way up to pushing more weight as I'm not used to the free weights and all the support musscles used quite yet.

I was missinformed on the Squat its actually a seated leg press machine which I use for Leg presses and calf raises. I now do upper body M/W/F with lower body T/R and cardio for 20 minutes every day.


As far as what celebrity I'd like to look like:
Brad Pitt in Fight club.... Just kidding everyone says that.

I'd like to look like, I can't think of anything off the bat, I like to have some size but don't really want to be totally cut or super huge either.

Maybe something inbetween a Ryan Reynolds in Blade Trinity and John Cena from the WWE.
 
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