Sport Intermittent Fasting for Strength Training and Fat Loss
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How so? Its said that eating every 2-3 hours keeps your metabolism going. But this guy is trying to say that switching meals from undereating to overeating meals can actually boost your metabolism during the time. Something like this has never been studied on so its always good to read into stuff that you think wouldn't work. You might learn something new. I think its quite poor also but nutrition and training knowledge has only grown because we try new stuides; like this guy.
Why hasn't anyone discovered this approach before?
Q: Excuse me for being blunt, but if this diet is all that, then why haven't many people discovered it? Why do so many bodybuilding dietitians (almost unanimously) have their clients do your average 6-meals-a-day-3-hours-apart type of diet?
A: The reason for the fitness/bodybuilding community not having "discovered" the approach, I think depends on several factors.
1) being stuck in old ways of thinking with regards to nutrition and, especially, meal frequency.
Many people believe that eating several small meals a day will some how "stoke the metabolic fire" and prevent "starvation mode" etc. You know how it goes. There's also the rather absurd notion that about the body only being able to absorb 30-40 g of protein in a sitting and going longer than 3-4 hrs without eating will get you "catabolic".
These myths and absurd notions gets repeated in eternum by the bodybuilding mags and other bodybuilding gurus/clowns. Noone would dare to go against the grain when the so called "truths" about proper nutrition is so heavily ingrained into the community.
2) The empirical and scientific support for intermittent fasting, it's health benefits and effects on human physiology, has only started to emerge (relatively) recently and is still an unknown concept for the uninitiated fitness enthusiast or layperson.
3) the old approach "works" for sure (6 meals a day etc), so no reason to mess with it. However, it may not be ideal and it may certainly not be ideal for many people with regards to meal frequency.
With regards,
Martin.
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I think he's studying all this as of now. I would like to see how it turns out. I don't think his studyies would be controlled enough because he would have to do like 2 different cut cycles. One with eating every 2-3 hours and one with intermittent fasting. And the variables would have to be controlled in each like the amount of sleep, supplements, foods gotta be the same, amount of activity.
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That guy that is doing this is working with Lyle Mcdonald, I am actually curious to see how it plays out as each time I have a problem with something there seems to be a comeback for it scientifically, so we will see, but wouldn't close my mind to it as a style of program. However, I have my doubts on its use for women of lower body fat.
It's actually quite interesting as it's not fasting in the sense that you're simply going without food. There are quite a few people over at using the method and having great success with it.
I warn you though-that board loves to hate on people, and it's encouraged. I myself love the place, but you have to be able to handle getting hated on.
I warn you though-that board loves to hate on people, and it's encouraged. I myself love the place, but you have to be able to handle getting hated on.
I read the page. I think its just his version of what I have been doing all along when my quest was to lose fat weight, and then lean out more, but I called it: CycleForward and CycleBack, which is basically manipulation of calories in a 24 hour diet cycle. The CycleBack involves a minor fast period within the 24 hour clock, while the CycleForward can involve a small surplus at optimum times needed (before and after work out, and recovery days). Or it can be decided to offset (balance it), or CycleBack to a deficit. And sometimes the CycleBack can encroach and/or encircle a workout. And, this worked wonders for me. So, in breif, there may be some truth; however, it may not work for everyone.
I wrote a a more detailed post in another thread, but even it was brief. This manipulation of calores can be quite powerful experiment when flipping calories on either side of the MT Line--especially when you have your MT line narrowed and then taylored to each days' activitiy level approximation, and it accompanies a diet journal where one can compare real world results with the data, and make adjustments as necessary.
I wrote a a more detailed post in another thread, but even it was brief. This manipulation of calores can be quite powerful experiment when flipping calories on either side of the MT Line--especially when you have your MT line narrowed and then taylored to each days' activitiy level approximation, and it accompanies a diet journal where one can compare real world results with the data, and make adjustments as necessary.
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That was interesting.