Sport I do not get it: Daily Protein intake

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hi,

I am a male: 17yrs old
Weight: 51Kg or 112pounds
Height: 180cm or 5ft 11

I am setting a goal to gain 10Kg in one month.. is it possible?
Anyways, I am confused about the daily protein intake. People say that it is required to eat 150-300g of protein everyday. But, all i know about high protein foods is that they are very minimal compared to this value.
I mean eggs are considered high in protein, yet they only contain 6g per large egg. Even if i eat a can of Tuna (20g of protein), I still have not reahced half of the recommended amount.

Here is what I eat typically:
1 cup of 2% milk (Sometimes with cereal)
Sandwich for breakfast
Lunch at 1Pm : French Fries, A cookie, or maybe a coke and brownies
Dinner at 4pm: Main meal: varies everyday.. rice, meat, soup, salad, potatoes, veggies, and this kind of stuff. (in terms of meat: i usually eat 3 small slices of steak.. approx equal to one of this.
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Supper at 9Pm or after: usually 2 fried scrambled eggs and chesse or yogurt.

In the end of the day, i do not get it..
Am i supposed to eat 5 eggs, drink 5 cups of milk, eat 5 pieces of chicken in order to get the 150-300g of protein?

Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks
 
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it's possible to gain 10kg in a month, but most of it probably won't be muscle. 10kg is a LOT of weight, so unless you want to gain fat, I'd go way lower than that.

If you want to gain weight you need to eat. Protein.. well, you could go for 1g protein per lbs.. I'd say that's the lowest amount, but everyone is different and you will hear a lot of different recommendations on protein.
 
People say that it is required to eat 150-300g of protein everyday.

Who are these people?

Shoot for 1g protein for every lb of body weight and that should be enough.

Your diet sucks more than any I've ever seen posted on here though. You should be eating more meats, more veg and less sweet and fatty crap. As a general rule fries and brownies have no place in a good diet (ever)
 
Your diet sucks more than any I've ever seen posted on here though. You should be eating more meats, more veg and less sweet and fatty crap. As a general rule fries and brownies have no place in a good diet (ever)

LOL.... I had to go back and look at the diet. Your diet is ****ty.
 
Your diet sucks more than any I've ever seen posted on here though. You should be eating more meats, more veg and less sweet and fatty crap. As a general rule fries and brownies have no place in a good diet (ever)

Well, is eating fries and brownies going to inhibit my weight gain process? Because in terms of fat, I do not have one gram of excess fat on my body, and never had any. In fact, I think I lack some in my face and cheeks...

Okay up untill now here is my today's diet:
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1 Cup of chocolate milk 1%
1 Chesse sandwich 
15 rolls of grape leaves stuffed with rice (any ideas on the nutritional value?)
3 pieces of beef meat (i would say 20 grams each so 60g total)
1 medium dish of Jelly
2 medium raw Tengerines
1 medium banana

and i still have a few more hours to go till the end of the day.
 
medium dish of jelly? Like Smucker's? I thought that was a condiment. 15 grapeleaves with rice. I remember eating something like that years ago and I am not sure if grape leaves are nutritious but those tings are oily and soaked in mysterious salty junk that doesn't make me think that 15 of them is going to be a health power punch.

A diet full of processed foods may not make you fat if you have a the sort of metabolism you don't gain anything, however it isn't going to do as much to build muscle as food that is in a natural state. If you are a Hardgainer your best choices would be red meats, good sources of starchy carbs like whole grains, oats, brown rice, quinoa and ample amounts of chicken and fish won't be bad choices either although I would suggest some flaxseed oil and nuts since you need the energy with a super high metabolism and thoze protiens are pretty low in fat. And some sort of green vegetable. All of these things should be in each meal, 6-7 times so you keep fueled up and anabolic. Especially if you can't get wieght on easily. Don't load up your stomach at one time and then pig out 5 hours later again.

If you can't afford red meat then of course you don't have to have it but choosing a bowl full of jelly ( hahaha, like Santa)and all that sugar in such quantities is counter productive to muscle growth. What nutrients do those things have? Little or none. The chocolate milk is probably OK as a choice though.



Good luck.
 
Well, is eating fries and brownies going to inhibit my weight gain process? Because in terms of fat, I do not have one gram of excess fat on my body, and never had any. In fact, I think I lack some in my face and cheeks...

Okay up untill now here is my today's diet:
Code:
1 Cup of chocolate milk 1%
1 Chesse sandwich 
15 rolls of grape leaves stuffed with rice (any ideas on the nutritional value?)
3 pieces of beef meat (i would say 20 grams each so 60g total)
1 medium dish of Jelly
2 medium raw Tengerines
1 medium banana
.


:bncry: You make me want to cry, you really do

Here's the truth - You don't have much body fat because you eat less than my 4 year old daughter. I can honestly say I've had breakfasts larger than the entire day's intake you just posted which suggests you probably aren't serious about wanting to gain a massive amount of weight in such a short period of time.

The fact that you don't have excess body fat doesn't mean that you aren't damaging your body though. If you eat things like a plate of jelly or some brownies for lunch you could still end up diabetic or with clogged arteries and still have a low body fat %.

For a guy aiming to gain 10kg in one month you're not trying very hard. I would suggest you don't even attempt the weight gain in that time frame as it's a crazy plan and the weight would mostly be fat but if you really want to shoot for it then try eating about 8,000 Kcals a day for a week or so to adapt to consuming that many calories and then upping it to about 12,000.
My guess right now is that you're eating about 1,500 which is why you're so thin
 
But since he's used to eating so little, that many calories a day will be pretty much impossible for him.

You should try to eat more every day, eventually you will get used to eating more. Also, eat healthy foods. Try to get down some nuts, for example, they are good for you, + they can give you a lot of calories for gaining some mass.
 
But since he's used to eating so little, that many calories a day will be pretty much impossible for him.
Oh I know, that's why I suggested he didn't even try. But if you work on a basis of 1lb of fat being approx 3,500 Kcals and the guy wants to add 22lbs in weight then he'd need a monthly surplus of at least 77,000kcals over the month.

I was working on how it 'could' be done; but I would never dream of suggesting anyone should attempt it.

Maybe I was being a little extreme though, I imagine he could make the 10kg by eating more like 6-7,000 a day for 30 days. Assuming he doesn't throw much of it back up again
 
YEah... if I were him, though, I'd just aim for something like 3k to start with. he's pretty light so he might even gain weight with that.
 
If your concern is acquiring more muscle (and minimizing fat accumulation), which is what most average fitness individuals want, then...its my opinion, you need to bare down on educating yourself on your dietary needs to gain good tissue, and then base a diet structure off of this.

It begins learning your calories needs coupled with constructing proper macro nutrients, and then adjusting these two areas according the type of feedback you are obtaining from your body.

It is a high "probability" you have a fast and efficient metabolism because you are so young, but their is an energy-line within your body (both in the calorie construction and manipulation of macro nutrients) that will solicit proper weight gain. You have to find it, and it may take some work, but its there.

Do you want to learn how to approximate your calories and macro nutrients? I can post some info if you want it.

Now, I ramble.....a bit: :)

Well, is eating fries and brownies going to inhibit my weight gain process?

Bare with me for a moment:

Bottom line?

Really, its: Yes and no.

Dependent on how "much" you are eating over your Maintenance, cause' theoretically you could just eat these two things (only) and lose tissue (or not gain any tissue), cause you are simply not eating enough (despite the obvious malnutrition)

Fries and Brownies, say 1,000 calories, and this is the only thing you ate, and for two weeks this is all you ate, and you needed 2300 calories to maintain your weight. Hypothetically (in the numbers), you would lose tissue.

There is a problem here though (IMO). And, it points to the quality of the food source (which is my point).

First their is very little protein in these two items and a load of fat, and sugar. When dieting to lose tissue (just using losing tissue as an example), protein becomes MORE IMPORTANT, and since it is primarily absent in the diet, where do you think your body is going to do (despite your training?).

The odds increase rather drastically that the muscle to fat loss ratio is going to be at ratio not liked by the dieter. In other words, this is breading ground for increased muscle loss.

There can of course be exceptions (such as new persons to training, and whatnot).

Three primary causes: 1. Lack of protein in the diet, 2. The severe calorie restriction, and 3. The brevity of the macro nutrients.

Now, flip this to weight gain.

First, we have an efficiency problem to talk about. When dieting to lose tissue (keeping the parts of the diet and one's metabolism equal with this example), muscle growth is more difficult, and the fat or tissue loss (keeping things equal) are in the more primed position.

With weight gain its sort of the opposite: Muscle growth though still somewhat difficult is in the prime position; however, so is fat growth accumulation, and tissue loss is less efficient. And, the body's ability and efficiency to put on fat tissue normally exceeds its ability and efficiency to put on muscle.

And, the way to assist this scenario, is through your diet (and exercise), which makes the Fries and Brownies, much less optimal for your fitness needs (or "quality weight gain"), no?

Am, I saying you couldn't eat this in moderation, while "normally" TRYING to eat a healthy diet? No I am not.

But, what I am saying is that the focus point of your diet should be in giving your body all the calories, macro nutrients, and micro nutrients, to build muscle, and MINIMIZING fat accumulation.

And, one's diet can surly mess this up.

I am a hard @ss when it comes to nutrition. I think its too damn bad, I have hunger when I diet to lose tissue, and use sand paper as my butt wipes, but this just me.

And, if you care at all about controlling how the body partitions its calories (which we have little control over, other than the contents that go in the mouth), than you need to learn about your approximated calorie needs (so you can learn where your approximated MT-Line is to provide a calorie surplus), and how to properly arrange your macro nutrients, and when or if necessary manipulate the macro nutrients.

We spend about one hour in the gym (as an example), but the diet works on you 24 hours per day.


My first impulse is to say: Dude! Chuck the dang brownies and Fries! :) :)

BUT! If you can enable 95% of your diet that surrounds trying to eat healthy (and enough to cause good weight gain), then this 5% isn't going to have much impact on your efforts to gain "proper" weight.

Now, (like many others), you are faced with choices to make. What ever you decide, when the smoke clears, the diet will still remain KING, and all the crying (and depression) in the world, will not change this mighty and obvious fact.

Get your diet in order, and if you can not eat in moderation, then chuck the brownie and fries! NOW! :(

I do not have one gram of excess fat on my body, and never had any. In fact, I think I lack some in my face and cheeks...

Would it be possible to post a pic?

If you didn't have "any" fat on you, you wouldn't be able to post on the forum. Why? Because you would be dead. :) Even IF you were largely made of muscles. :)

You just may be very efficient because you are young.

There is a line drawn in the body (so-to-speak), which we rarely speak on on this forum, and this is "essential fat", and if you were even "able" to go below this threshold, you would not survive. Though this level of fat can vary in percentage dependent on the person, it is somewhere in the neighborhood of 3%. And, since you are posting and breathing, you are above this threshold. And, the ones that even come close or near this threshold are some professional body builders ready for a show, but it is not the level of body fat they maintain all the time. This is one of the reasons, I am reluctant to go any lower than 7ish%. Its not that I can't, I just see no health point.



Best regards,

Chillen
 
I deliver my best thanks to all of you for helping me.
According to what I have sumed up, my calorie intake ranges from: 4000-6000
And I am trying to get more in everyday since the day I read your advice, so thanks again.

Right now, I need to look for healthy high calorie food.. can you guys suggest any? Would be even better if it was high calorie and high protein+fiber+other vitamins.
also, something about those supplements. I really can not afford the expensive protein supplements... But I am saving up to buy something anyways. So I need some good suggestions of the cheapest type of supplement that lasts for a while if thats possible.

In terms of nuts, I do eat lots.. Does it matter what type I eat though? right now, as I am typing, a bag of peanuts lies in front of me... something called "Crunchy coated peannuts.. sweet and spicy.. Baked"

What is the way to gain weight properly? Eat a lot of calories and minimize burning them.. or eat and exercise? should I exercise daily too? because, currently, I do it every other day...

Thanks again.
 
I deliver my best thanks to all of you for helping me.
According to what I have sumed up, my calorie intake ranges from: 4000-6000

Male, 5' 11", 112lbs, 17 years old.....what did you configure your approximate calories with to get: 4000-6000 calories as your need with activities included?

This is can't be accurate, unless you are running multiple marathons in one day.

Benedict with your particulars:

BMR: 1549.55

And using one of the highest multipliers of (VERY active) 1.9: 2944.15. There are lower multipliers (with its associated activity type), and this makes the calorie requirements lower yet.

I am doing this sort of fast, so bare with me. Now if you add in a surplus of say 500c to 1000c, to the 1.9 very active multiplier, this would bring calories to: 3944.15 and 3444.15, respectively.

Young man, you need to re-examine your calorie needs. M-kay? :) :)


Best wishes to you!

Chillen
 
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