hi, just now starting my journey

gg555

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I gained about 60 lbs in the past 4 years, and I'm looking to shed 50 lbs. SO FAR, I've lost 10. I want to lose 40 more.
I finally found some success through a food diary app. Its been awesome. The weight basically fell off of me overnight after actually SEEING what I'm eating and being able to plan. I was so frustrated before because it didn't seem like I was consuming that much, but I had to have been because, like I said, now that I'm watching what I'm eating the weight is basically falling off. I lost the 10 lbs in a little over a week :)

I'm 22 and a senior in college. I just got out of a bad relationship last year, and I want a new start. My peak weight was 184. I have not weighed myself, so as far as I know, I am 174. I've probably lost more weight though.

I eat a low caloric diet. I was shocked. It's actually less than 1,100 calories a day, BUT I feel full because I'm consuming a lot healthier foods that are filling and not high in calories. I was definitely eating more than 2,000 calories before and I was always STARVING. Also, lots and lots of water. Most of my weight loss has come from the calorie cutting (about 1,000 to 1,200 a day), but I definitely supplement with light to moderate cardio because I was to increase my endurance.

so yeah, nice to meet everyone! :)
 
Hello gg555, welcome to the forum.

I hope that you find the advice, contained within the various sections of the forum, both helpful and intuitive in reaching your intended goal.

As for new starts, it seems as though you’re off to a flyer. However, despite the changes introduced and progress made thus far, although you may not feel hungry, 1200Kcal a day isn’t a sufficient an amount upon which to ensure sustained weight loss, particularly if you wish to incorporate cardio to further your goal.

Please don’t construe the above as criticism (it’s not), as you’ve done great so far, gg. Hopefully, everything will become a little clearer through further explanation.

You’ll have no doubt heard about the importance of keeping the metabolism firing when it comes to weight loss. In order to successfully lose weight, you need consume more calories than your resting BMR (basal metabolic rate). By doing so, through the introduction of a daily calorie deficit, you encourage stored fat to be used as energy. The utilisation of that stored energy results in continued and sustained weight loss.

If your body isn’t receiving sufficient daily calories through diet, that firing metabolism begins to slow. The slowing of your metabolism makes weight loss incredibly difficult as your body holds on to the stored energy, contained in body fat, to maintain your existence.

The above is an evolutionary trait of the human body, one that you’ll fail to overcome if you don’t consume sufficient calories.

Granted, restricting your intake to 1200Kcal has worked for you so far, but your level of success won’t continue indefinitely, as your body will soon grow wise to the fact it’s becoming under-nourished.

In order to eliminate the issue of a slowing metabolism (allowing sustained weight loss), you need to research BMR calculators, since they’re largely accurate in determining calorific needs, based upon your measurements (age/weight/height) and level of activity.

Most importantly, having obtained both your resting and active BMR, you can begin to introduce a calorie deficit that’ll allow you to lose weight. For example, if your active BMR is 2200Kcal and your resting BMR is 1600Kcal, you can comfortably afford to introduce a daily deficit of 500Kcal.

(I’ve multiplied the resting BMR of 1600 by 1.375 to account for the intended increase in your level of cardio activity).

Repeating the same over a number of weeks, a saving of 3500Kcal should net you a lb in weight loss on its own. When you throw exercise into the equation, the level of weekly loss increases, as your body is utilising fat (stored as energy) to fuel your endeavour. The higher the intensity of the cardio, the greater the utilisation of fat. As such, you could expect to lose as much as 3lb per week, depending upon the intensity of your cardio exercise.

As you lose weight, you’ll need to re-calculate both your resting and active BMR, adjusting your daily calorie deficit as you near your goal weight, to ensure that the deficit doesn’t take you lower than your resting BMR.



Each stone lost roughly equates to around 100 fewer calories needed each day. As a result, both your resting and active BMR will reduce accordingly upon the assumption that your activity level remains the same.

Concerning cardio activity, as your level of fitness improves, aim to introduce interval training into your schedule, as intervals increase your uptake of fat into the muscle cells to be utilised as fuel, thus, contributing towards your levels of fat loss.

I’m not immediately suggesting that you attempt HIIT, but as you improve your stamina (increasing your VO2 level) through regular steady state cardio, HIIT is something that you should aim towards, largely due to huge energy deficit and increased levels of ATP density that the activity creates in your working muscles and your heart. Moreover, the activity will improve your level of fitness beyond your wildest imagination, due to the physiological changes that HIIT forces upon your body.

That said, for now, your immediate aim is to increase your cardiovascular endurance upon stepping foot in the gym.

I’d concentrate upon using machines such as the recumbent bike and the StairMaster (to accustom the muscles in your legs), before progressing to the treadmill. Trust me, as a regular runner /racer myself, the stairs are fantastic, in terms of developing/maintaining strength and muscular endurance in the legs, not least that of the calves.

On my rest days (and all throughout the winter) I’ll use the stairs as they’re equal to running outdoors, without placing unnecessary stress upon the joints.

Although I may have provided you with much to consider, gg555, the most important thing to take from what I’ve written is to get your energy balance right, allowing you to lose weight, whilst ensuring that your metabolism continues to fire.

Once you do, the rest will gradually fall into place.
 
I really do appreciate your input; however, I disagree, that eating less will slow down my metabolism. I DO think I need to eat a little more to keep up my body functions.

However, below is an interesting article commenting on what you just said:
http://askgeorgie.com/will-i-slow-my-metabolism-by-eating-less/

Basically, as you stated, I will require more calorie deficiencies as I lose weight because I will be smaller. Point 1. Secondly, people
who eat less have less energy and move less as time goes on because they're weak, so the weight loss slows (again I will adjust my caloric intake based on how I am feeling), so
no, I don't really think eating less destroys your metabolism as much as some would like to suggest.

I think eating too little leads to higher calories deficiencies and less energy to move which is incorrectly perceived as a slower metabolism.
If what you're saying is the case, then people with anorexia would be huge.

So, rest assured, if there comes a point where my energy is too low, then I will eat more. That point has not come, and I'm getting results.
 
I gained about 60 lbs in the past 4 years, and I'm looking to shed 50 lbs. SO FAR, I've lost 10. I want to lose 40 more.
I finally found some success through a food diary app. Its been awesome. The weight basically fell off of me overnight after actually SEEING what I'm eating and being able to plan. I was so frustrated before because it didn't seem like I was consuming that much, but I had to have been because, like I said, now that I'm watching what I'm eating the weight is basically falling off. I lost the 10 lbs in a little over a week :)

I'm 22 and a senior in college. I just got out of a bad relationship last year, and I want a new start. My peak weight was 184. I have not weighed myself, so as far as I know, I am 174. I've probably lost more weight though.

I eat a low caloric diet. I was shocked. It's actually less than 1,100 calories a day, BUT I feel full because I'm consuming a lot healthier foods that are filling and not high in calories. I was definitely eating more than 2,000 calories before and I was always STARVING. Also, lots and lots of water. Most of my weight loss has come from the calorie cutting (about 1,000 to 1,200 a day), but I definitely supplement with light to moderate cardio because I was to increase my endurance.

so yeah, nice to meet everyone! :)

gg555,

Congrats for beginning your weight loss journey! The beginning stages are the most exciting and fun! I wish the best of luck to you!
For how long were you trying to lose weight before your current success?

Nate
 
Hi! I'd been "trying" since sophomore year of college which was 3 years ago. I said that with quotation marks because I was just really frustrated and would aimlessly work out only to still be overeating, thus seeing no results and gaining even more weight over the years.

the app I'm using is called fatsecret. There's plenty of food diary apps. You can pick whichever one you like best. But it's definitely been key in
my success because I have NO results only more weight gain before using it. Weight's still falling off. I'm down 4 more pounds since I started this thread, so 14 lbs total.

I'm sure I'll hit a plateau sooner or later, but with the app, it will help me recalculate and get back on track :)
 
I want to add, that a low calorie diet (at least as low as I'm doing) may not be for everyone. You have to do what's comfortable for you. If you are feeling weak or sick, EAT MORE. You can still lose weight pretty effortlessly at a higher caloric intake, it will probably be just a little bit slower.

I'm also 22 with no real health issues like high blood sugar or heart disease. Everyone is different.

Main point, is the whole saying that "weight loss is 20% exercise and 80% diet" is totally true. I work out to supplement and build muscle, but I lost a pound and a half over the weekend when I didn't work out at all.
 
Well, I can definitely relate to 'trying'... that stage is really awful. thanks for answering the app question!

So, what's your biggest motivation to lose weight?
 
My biggest motivation is taking control of my life. Was in a really bad relationship with someone who was a cheater and a drug addict and was just toxic. Survived a suicide attempt. And amoungst all of that stress gained a shit ton of weight.

My motivation is taking control of my life and making a new start for myself.

Might be a little tmi but whateva lol
 
Hello gg,

Without attempting to appear blunt, I think you’ve slightly misinterpreted the article.

Georgie is right in her assessment that metabolism doesn’t slow as weight is lost, it simply re-adjusts to the corresponding level of weight loss. If you weigh less, your resting BMR is going to be lower, as your body needs fewer calories to maintain your existence (remember what I’d said about re-calculating BMR and TDEE as weight reduces).

In the second paragraph of her article, she also warns against a severe calorie restriction, stating that consumption of insufficient calories will eventually leave the body without the energy to execute everyday tasks, suggesting that a moderate reduction in calorific intake is more beneficial to maintaining energy levels, re-iterating the point again in the final sentence of the third paragraph.

In a nutshell, whilst not wholly stating the importance of obtaining both your BMR and TDEE, she’s essentially advocating the same as I’d advised, gg.

As you’ve quite rightly stated, your current calorie restriction is working, since your body is able to utilise the energy stored in body fat to fuel your daily endeavour. However, that energy exchange won’t continue indefinitely, as your body will eventually grow wise to the fact it’s receiving insufficient calories whilst also recognising its energy reserves are dwindling; a term referred to as plateau.

Concerning your comments surrounding anorexia, the vast majority of those with the condition don’t even consume close to 1200Kcal each day. As such, over an extended period, body tissues (fat & muscle) of anorexia sufferers are repeatedly broken down, through a process known as catabolism, to provide the calories needed to maintain existence, eventually leading to a state of emaciation (skin and bone).

Although we may reside in the 21st Century, what hasn’t changed is that the human body is just an organism, requiring a certain amount of energy to fuel its endeavour, whether that endeavour be to simply exist, increase levels of fitness, to improve levels of weight loss.

However, in order to achieve such aims, the body must be provided with sufficient energy in which to do so.

I wholly appreciate the reasons behind why you’re seeking to make positive changes, gg. It’s also great that you display the motivation and determination to succeed. However, upon your journey towards success, you need to develop a sense of perspective, in the sense of understanding that your excess wasn’t gained overnight, so it’s not going to be lost overnight either.

I understand that you wish to see instant results from your endeavour and, thus far, you have.

However, the key to maintaining that level of progress is to ensure that your energy exchange (calories consumed/calories expended) remains balanced. By doing so, it’ll be easier to maintain your goal weight once it’s reached.

Although it’s great that you accept calorie consumption will need to increase upon the undertaking of exercise, regular exercise cannot be repeatedly sustained upon 1100Kcal, given that the activity burns calories.

By repeatedly proceeding to do so (on 1100Kcal), your performance will soon become impaired, ultimately leaving you tired and frustrated. There’s also a considerable chance that you’ll begin to place your body into a state of catabolism, leading to a reduction in existing levels of muscular strength and endurance.

For the record, consumption of protein simply repairs damaged muscle fibres, it doesn’t immediately replace depleted glycogen reserves (needed by the muscles to repeatedly fuel cardiovascular exercise). In order to replace depleted glycogen, carbohydrate must be consumed.

Forget what you may see upon the Bigger Loser, where the contestants are placed upon 1500Kcal diets, since they possess huge amounts of excess energy (body fat), allowing such a deficit to be maintained over a longer period.

Despite what you may think to the contrary, your current body weight doesn’t allow such luxury, not least when it comes to incorporating exercise into your weight loss schedule. You weigh less than I do, gg, yet I’ll consume around 2350Kcal to maintain energy levels that support me in my training goals.

On an intake of 2350Kcal I don’t gain weight, nor do I lose it. However, I’m more than satisfied with my composition, not least its level of muscular mass and low level of body fat, that routinely allows me perform HIIT workouts whilst ensuring that my muscle mass remains.

What you don’t see, or perhaps consider, upon the Biggest Loser (assuming that you watch it) is how dietary intake is revised, dependent upon individuals’ levels of weight loss.

Contestants who weigh 400lbs at the start of the contest, for example, invariably possess less body fat by the end of it, meaning that their dietary intake will have been adjusted accordingly throughout, in order to ensure that they continue to lose weight,

Regardless of whether they make it to the final, increased levels of fat loss encourage increased levels of fitness and muscular strength. As such, dietary intake will be adjusted to ensure that those gains continue.

Moreover, all contestants possess the benefit of being surrounded by fitness trainers, doctors and nutrition experts throughout their journey.

I’m not necessarily saying that the show presents a false representation of weight loss, what I’m simply attempting to demonstrate is that through increased levels of weight loss/improvement in body composition, daily calorific intake needs to be re-examined (increased where necessary), in order to support and maintain the level of endeavour.
 
I don't think you're really listening? I said in my response before that I plan on increasing my caloric intake. I never said that my entire journey was going to be on 1,100 calories.

At this point, you're sort of just repeating yourself and ignoring what I said in what seems to be an effort to sound holier than thou, which I may add, is annoying at this point. You're rambling.

I said that the perception of a slower metabolism is due to not losing anymore weight; it is actually because the body cannot sustain movement on 1,100 calories for a long period of time and your caloric deficit isn't as drastic.
That's just unrealistic to maintain anyway. But as soon as I increase, if and when that happens, my metabolism isn't going to be sooo shot that I'm going to gain it back.

I would just need to increase the amount of activity I do or be content with losing that weight at a slightly slower pace than before, which I am okay with.
 
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I gained about 60 lbs in the past 4 years, and I'm looking to shed 50 lbs. SO FAR, I've lost 10. I want to lose 40 more.
I finally found some success through a food diary app. Its been awesome. The weight basically fell off of me overnight after actually SEEING what I'm eating and being able to plan. I was so frustrated before because it didn't seem like I was consuming that much, but I had to have been because, like I said, now that I'm watching what I'm eating the weight is basically falling off. I lost the 10 lbs in a little over a week :)

I'm 22 and a senior in college. I just got out of a bad relationship last year, and I want a new start. My peak weight was 184. I have not weighed myself, so as far as I know, I am 174. I've probably lost more weight though.

I eat a low caloric diet. I was shocked. It's actually less than 1,100 calories a day, BUT I feel full because I'm consuming a lot healthier foods that are filling and not high in calories. I was definitely eating more than 2,000 calories before and I was always STARVING. Also, lots and lots of water. Most of my weight loss has come from the calorie cutting (about 1,000 to 1,200 a day), but I definitely supplement with light to moderate cardio because I was to increase my endurance.

so yeah, nice to meet everyone! :)
Welcome to this forum :)
 
Oh, I fully understand your intentions, gg555. You wish to introduce a severe daily calorie deficit, in order to really kick start your journey, one that you hope will quickly yield a noticeable improvement in your body composition.

I know that you don’t fully intend to remain on 1000-1200Kcal for the duration, recognising that as your energy levels decrease, you’ll need to increase your intake. When (not if) that occurs, by how much do you increase calorie consumption, ensuring that the increase satisfies energy levels whilst still allowing you to lose weight?

Sadly, I simply disagree with your 'gung-ho' approach towards weight loss, particularly since weight loss can be achieved just as successfully through the adoption of a moderate daily deficit and the introduction of regular HIIT cardio.

However, since you appear to have it all worked out, I wish you well upon your challenge.
 
I'm aware there are other options. Everyone's journey and bodies are difference.

You're really one of those people that just really loves to hear themselves talk. Aren't you?
 
I will emphasis I think there is a significant multidirectional relationship between physical and mental health and lifestyle.

Feedback is very useful of course for many reasons.

In my case I am especially interested in people struggling with their weight who have significant emotional regulation and / or.stress related problems.

I don't believe it should ever be focused primarily on weight measurements but physical and mental health and a person's relationship to their life circumstances.

Best wishes
 
I gained about 60 lbs in the past 4 years, and I'm looking to shed 50 lbs. SO FAR, I've lost 10. I want to lose 40 more.
I finally found some success through a food diary app. Its been awesome. The weight basically fell off of me overnight after actually SEEING what I'm eating and being able to plan. I was so frustrated before because it didn't seem like I was consuming that much, but I had to have been because, like I said, now that I'm watching what I'm eating the weight is basically falling off. I lost the 10 lbs in a little over a week :)

I'm 22 and a senior in college. I just got out of a bad relationship last year, and I want a new start. My peak weight was 184. I have not weighed myself, so as far as I know, I am 174. I've probably lost more weight though.

I eat a low caloric diet. I was shocked. It's actually less than 1,100 calories a day, BUT I feel full because I'm consuming a lot healthier foods that are filling and not high in calories. I was definitely eating more than 2,000 calories before and I was always STARVING. Also, lots and lots of water. Most of my weight loss has come from the calorie cutting (about 1,000 to 1,200 a day), but I definitely supplement with light to moderate cardio because I was to increase my endurance.

so yeah, nice to meet everyone! :)

First of all, welcome to the forum. If you haven't done so already, start a journal in the Weight Loss Diary section. That's the best way for you to get advice, support and friendship from other members in this community.

Speaking of advice, I feel the need to give you some right away. Losing 10 pounds is a GREAT start - it really is - however, if you don't lose your weight the proper way you might end up gaining it all back. What do I mean? Well, you say you're eating 1,100 calories per day? That's too low for a guy your size. My twelve-year old daughter needs to eat that much to maintain her weight and she's a stick. It's great that you're making healthy choices when you choose your meals, but you're losing weight so fast because you're body is probably starving itself - literally. Sure, weight will come off fast that way, but your body's metabolism will eventually slow down in an effort to keep yourself from starving to death. I know, it sounds over-dramatic, but it's true - if you don't eat enough and give your body an adequate amount of energy it will eventually shut itself down. And, when that happens, you're going to gain back nearly every pound you lost.

Keep eating healthy. Just eat more of it, that's all. I've eaten less calories than what my body has needed before and the weight came off incredibly fast - but, I packed it back on just as quickly.
 
The key to losing weight, and you've been doing very well is to maintain a calorie deficit of at least 20%. That means you need to calculate your TDEE or total energy expenditure and multiply that by .8 . that is how many calories a day you should be eating so that you don't starve yourself and that you're able to burn a minimum of 1 pound of fat a week.

Calculate TDEE here at http://www.muscleforlife.com/tdee-calculator/ I like this article a lot, check it out.
 
Hi gg,

I would recommend you increase your calorie intake. This may seem like a valid way to cut weight (and believe me it is for short term), but this will lead to serious health issues and mess with your metabolism once you get older. I wrestled competitively for eleven years and I know a calorie deficit diet works well, I once cut 12 pounds in a month, but the moment you start eating a normal diet again your body is shocked and the weight comes back.

The best advice I would give is maintain roughly an intake of 1,600-1,800 calories to allow your body to build some muscle and lose the proper fat. Eating a diet with that little of calories will have your body in a "fight-or-flight" mode which will have your body breaking down your muscles first which is why you will see such a drastic weight loss.

For sustained weight loss I would cut out as much meat as possible and dairy. I would replace this with more veggies and fruits. I think this would help you see an incredible change in your energy levels along with consistent weight loss that will stay off.

If you have any more questions

Best of wishes,

Chris Rees
 
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