hey protein shakes?
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you just have to know that it is a suppliment and that it should not be overused. suppliments are great but you need a good foundation to build off of. Try not to make them your only(or close to only) source of protein. Try to eat a variety of natural, healthy, whole foods.
i learned this from other people on this site; so thanks to whoever taught me about whey : )
i learned this from other people on this site; so thanks to whoever taught me about whey : )
Ballzey said:
What PB said. I use them in two cases: PWO and as some added protein in my meal replacement shakes (there's more ingredients to it, but those are the main protein sources).
In the case of PWO, I use one scoop, in the case of meal replacement, I use 1/2 scoop.
And yes, I notice a difference is my ability to add weight. I started DLing 130 in Sept 05, I'm at 210 now and hope to get to 260 by Oct this year, Sep if I'm lucky.
Ballzey said:
I think you have the wrong idea of what a protein shake does. Its not some magic drink that adds mass to your body. You need to take in a certain amount of protein during the day (as a general rule, 1g per lb of your body weight). If you find it hard to take that all in through foods, then you take protein shakes to supplement it.
And what PB said, do not make this your main source of protein. try to get as much as you can through regular foods.
junkfoodbad said:
i agree they arent like a "magic drink" you have to remember that the whey protein shakes are only...whey! whey is from milk; so its basically just like drinking alot of milk protein; or any other quality protein for that matter.
Protein shakes SUPPLEMENT/ARE IN ADDITION TO...your normal diet of whole foods. some people can get all the protein they need in whole foods. most people find it easier to slam 1-3 shakes a day out of convenience.
shakes are NOT expensive. I paid $40 for a tub of ON brand whey/egg protein blend. there are 28 servings of 55g per serving. I uusually only do a little over a half serving, so we'll call it an even 50 servings, to allow for a few full servings and mostly half servings.
so that's less than $1 per serving, including shipping. Chicken here is $6 per pound for breasts. 16oz raw, so 1 breast we'll say is 4oz before cooking...or 3.5oz afterwards..which is about 34g of protein. about $1.50 for taht serving of chicken.
Now, i will say the chicken will usually be of higher nutritional value (more vitamins, minerals, and its natural)...but there's nothing wrong with the whey shake either.
a combo of the two is best.
and there's been plenty of research showing that groups of men and women who consume more of ANY protein gain more lean muslce mass than a group taking in less protein and on the same exercise program.
USRDA for protein is 60g. that's their "this is what you need, bare minimum, to stay healthy". Protein is the building blocks for muscle repair and growth.
shakes are NOT expensive. I paid $40 for a tub of ON brand whey/egg protein blend. there are 28 servings of 55g per serving. I uusually only do a little over a half serving, so we'll call it an even 50 servings, to allow for a few full servings and mostly half servings.
so that's less than $1 per serving, including shipping. Chicken here is $6 per pound for breasts. 16oz raw, so 1 breast we'll say is 4oz before cooking...or 3.5oz afterwards..which is about 34g of protein. about $1.50 for taht serving of chicken.
Now, i will say the chicken will usually be of higher nutritional value (more vitamins, minerals, and its natural)...but there's nothing wrong with the whey shake either.
a combo of the two is best.
and there's been plenty of research showing that groups of men and women who consume more of ANY protein gain more lean muslce mass than a group taking in less protein and on the same exercise program.
USRDA for protein is 60g. that's their "this is what you need, bare minimum, to stay healthy". Protein is the building blocks for muscle repair and growth.
40$ for 28 servings of 55g? i just bought a tub on sale: 5lb whey natural protein; 80 servings of 30g for 15.95 ; )
malkore said:and yours is just plain whey.
mines 4 types of whey, plus egg albumen, and BCAA's
are u saying mine's bad or yours is just better? lol....
I'm saying yours is inexpensive whey, and mine is a more complex blend of more than cheap whey.
yours is great for post workout, mines probably better....but mine's also good any time of day, where yours would need some healthy fat added to slow down digestion.
pure whey just digests so fast that its not as 'ideal' as was once thought.
if you want an idea on how much different protein types cost, look at or
They let you design custom protein blends, and you can see the cost different per pound.
The cheapest whey is like $2 a pound, while the more expensive stuff is $7+ a pound.
and i'm not trying to be snooty...all proteins are not created equally.
yours is great for post workout, mines probably better....but mine's also good any time of day, where yours would need some healthy fat added to slow down digestion.
pure whey just digests so fast that its not as 'ideal' as was once thought.
if you want an idea on how much different protein types cost, look at or
They let you design custom protein blends, and you can see the cost different per pound.
The cheapest whey is like $2 a pound, while the more expensive stuff is $7+ a pound.
and i'm not trying to be snooty...all proteins are not created equally.
malkore said:
I use ON 100% Whey. Would you suggest a slower digesting whey since i take 2 shakes a day one in the morning and one PWO?
hmm so b/c mine is fast digesting, would it be good to have it with some peanuts or peanut butter?
can you please comment on my post workout meal:
i eat this 1-5 minutes after my w/o
1 scoop whey in milk
1large chicken breast with a lot of brown rice w/ketchup
the chicken and rice were cooked in extra virgin olive oil
should i add more fats?
can you please comment on my post workout meal:
i eat this 1-5 minutes after my w/o
1 scoop whey in milk
1large chicken breast with a lot of brown rice w/ketchup
the chicken and rice were cooked in extra virgin olive oil
should i add more fats?
if you're seeing good results on 100% whey, there's no reason to change.
I wasn't seeing the gains I wanted, so I stepped it up.
Yes, peanut butter or peanuts would slow digestion, or adding flaxseed oil to your shake (its not as bad as it sounds...of course I'll just swallow spoonfuls of flaxseed oil...its good stuff)
I don't feel brown rice is a simple enough carb for post workout nutrition. post workout, especially on a bulk, sugar, like dextrose is perfect. an insulin spike is what you want. white bread, white rice would work better if dextrose isn't appealing to you.
I wasn't seeing the gains I wanted, so I stepped it up.
Yes, peanut butter or peanuts would slow digestion, or adding flaxseed oil to your shake (its not as bad as it sounds...of course I'll just swallow spoonfuls of flaxseed oil...its good stuff)
I don't feel brown rice is a simple enough carb for post workout nutrition. post workout, especially on a bulk, sugar, like dextrose is perfect. an insulin spike is what you want. white bread, white rice would work better if dextrose isn't appealing to you.
what about some homemade protein bars with honey and peanuts on top?
thanks
thanks
i bought it from this guy on ebay; he has a store here:
lol u can even buy 53 lbs for 136$. he has 9 flavors
i havent tasted mine yet but it should come in 1-3 days(fastest shipping); you can wait and ask me wut mine tastes like if u want if u are ganna buy some.
lol u can even buy 53 lbs for 136$. he has 9 flavors
i havent tasted mine yet but it should come in 1-3 days(fastest shipping); you can wait and ask me wut mine tastes like if u want if u are ganna buy some.
Well, you found a good deal (even though that shipping cost is real high) and I think All-the-whey is supposed to be pretty decent. Write up an opinion once you try it.
taste and mixibility are key factors to look for.
Try mixing in a blender, should be easy. Then try a shaker bottle. Any naglene or sealable bottle will do. Then try a simple stir.
taste and mixibility are key factors to look for.
Try mixing in a blender, should be easy. Then try a shaker bottle. Any naglene or sealable bottle will do. Then try a simple stir.
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Cynic said:
okay i think it will come today (its been 3 days). I am going to drink 3 shakes today after my w/o so i will have all statistix in today also. shipping was actual cost (however much it really costs to ship 5.3lbs whey).