Help on Losing Fat doing Cardio

Hi guys, i'm Ollie, i'm 20 years old from near London, i'm new here and am just wondering the best cardio equipment or the best cardio exercises to lose fat. Ive been at a gym for a while but haven't gone too often because ive not really known what to do.

I eat a very unhealthy diet, which contains crap like chocolate, crisps, junk food etc. I can't eat Vegetables or salad, i just can't handle the taste and they make me throw up when i try forcing myself to eat them. I eat a lot of Rice and Pasta, mainly casseroles, Curry, meat etc.

You have probably had this question over 100 times lol but i'm in a sticky situation. All i need to know is......

Do the treadmill, Exercise bike and Rowing machine burn body fat and tone the body? I just want to know if doing all 3 of these for like 20 mins each, 3 days a week (monday, wednesday, friday) with some weights will do a lot for me even tho i don't eat healthily.

I'm planning on doing 20 mins on the rowing machine, followed by 20 mins on the exercise bike, followed by 20 mins jogging. Then do a few weights after. Is this a good thing to do if i can do it consistantly?

I'm not fat, just a bit flabby. I'm just over 12 stone, just under 6 feet tall. Just want to tone up. please tell me if i can tone up the way i just said.

Thanks
 
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You will not see many results with a diet like that.
Exercise and diet go hand in hand and you need both for something to happen.
 
firstly you cannot tone.

to be 'toned' you must have a good amount of lean muscle tissue with a low body fat. HOWEVER you can not, ever, do both at the same time. you either eat more than you burn to build muscle, or have a dietry deficit and burn fat/tissue. toning is a myth built up by gyms to keep a seemingly limitless amount of people on treadmills and the membership fees up.

you need to choose whether you want to add muscle or remove fat first. at 12 stone you're hardly obese so id suggest bulking as it makes cutting easier, plus if you cut without adding lean tissue you'll only look scrawny. besides, its almost autumn so make the most of the months where you're covered up.

read around the site for better workouts, these will include doing several weights only sessions, with some very specific cardio extra. dont do both together, if you do weights then cardio you will be burning into lean tissue, if you do cardio then weights you wont be able to put enough energy into it to get any benefit. your cardio only routine will break down tissue and fat and leave you looking thin but not 'toned'.

finally, the ideal, 'hollywood' body takes a spot on diet, spot on routine, and a lot of patience. you can take this to whatever depth you want, but the tighter you are on what you do and how you eat the better and quicker your results will be.

id seriously suggest buying New Rules of Lifting by Schuler and Cosgrove, its around a tenner on amazon and it has been the best thing ive done fitness wise. you need to forget your pre conceptions and what you though you know and ignore the instructors at the gym because only about 1% know what they're talking about.
 
Hi guys, i'm Ollie, i'm 20 years old from near London, i'm new here and am just wondering the best cardio equipment or the best cardio exercises to lose fat. Ive been at a gym for a while but haven't gone too often because ive not really known what to do.

I eat a very unhealthy diet, which contains crap like chocolate, crisps, junk food etc. I can't eat Vegetables or salad, i just can't handle the taste and they make me throw up when i try forcing myself to eat them. I eat a lot of Rice and Pasta, mainly casseroles, Curry, meat etc.
You have probably had this question over 100 times lol but i'm in a sticky situation. All i need to know is......

Do the treadmill, Exercise bike and Rowing machine burn body fat and tone the body? I just want to know if doing all 3 of these for like 20 mins each, 3 days a week (monday, wednesday, friday) with some weights will do a lot for me even tho i don't eat healthily.

I'm planning on doing 20 mins on the rowing machine, followed by 20 mins on the exercise bike, followed by 20 mins jogging. Then do a few weights after. Is this a good thing to do if i can do it consistantly?

I'm not fat, just a bit flabby. I'm just over 12 stone, just under 6 feet tall. Just want to tone up. please tell me if i can tone up the way i just said.

Thanks

The Diet is the fat burner first and foremost, without question, and it is without an equal.

If the diet is messed up---you can do cardio until the sun goes down (or even HIIT), and the fat will not come off: Because of the basic equation of the Laws of Energy Balance.

What do I mean when I say: If the Diet is Messed up the rest is messed up?

Lets take a SIMPLISTIC view of doing cardio when the diet ISNT correct (an example only):

Cardio burns calories, and can if optimum, burn fat.

However, if your in a surplus on the caloric side, it can and it will erase the fat and calories burned in cardio (even if the intensity and duration of the cardio was adequate). This is saying if the Surplus is far too LARGE.

Now on the flip side, if your at your MT line or in deficit already, one can use cardio to lose fat tissue further (or use it to burn calories more) (and muscle possibly). In addition, one can have a small surplus, and have cardio for example, draw down this surplus, and cause a deficite, and this sense, yes, cardio will benefit. In this sense, the exercise is being used to create a deficit from a surplus diet. (nothing wrong with this)

However, at the END OF the day.........diet is is king and the laws of caloric balance.

This is true in its most basic format.

Lets take a look:

See if this make sense: You need 2000c, but you eat 3600c, and you do cardio, say 250c burned. Your still in surplus (the excess is over 1,000c) and your gonna gain wgt over time with this simplistic example. Some could be fat (with everything considered equal) and some muscle depending on training and diet..............Make sense?



The correct way (or one way to say it) is:

To burn fat one has to be in a caloric deficit (created through exercise, or just diet, or a combination of both diet and the exercise).

Cardio by itself DOES NOT get rid of fat---UNLESS, the diet is on the up and up. Once the diet is straight, THEN cardio could assist in the fat burning process, no doubt,--dependent on several bodily factors.

Get your diet in order and compliment this diet with a good training program.

Read this;
http://training.fitness.com/weight-loss/weight-loss-intricate-27164.html

Look here for some motivation:

http://training.fitness.com/wellness/chillout-log-chillen-21-25737.html

Look here for some training tips:

http://training.fitness.com/weight-training/weight-training-101-a-17439.html

http://training.fitness.com/weight-training/technique-articles-24334.html

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I agree you have to get your diet much cleaner and learn about yourself in order to achieve your personal goal. Get the "Willpower" hat on, and set the course straight........OKAY?

I will provide some basic information for you for fat loss:

Deficit dieting is the MAIN thing that does the job.

Calorie calculation is an approximation science, remember this.

Through your journey WATCH, LOOK, and LISTEN, to your body..........it will TELL YOU if your doing the correct things or combination of things!


○ Change your eating habits (below are some suggestion examples)

○ Substitute an artificial sweetener of your choice in the replace of refined white sugar (Refrain from Refined Sugar like you would a disease)

○ Try eating 5 to 6 smaller meals during the day

○ Balance your meals out during the day so in one day you have a mix of protein, carbohydrate and good fats

○ Drink lots of water during the day and before, during and after exercise

○ Simple Carb Examples: Grapefruit, Watermelon, Cantaloupe, Strawberries, Oranges, Apples, Pineapple, etc

○ Complex Carb Examples: Whole Wheat Pita Bread, Oatmeal, Long Grain Brown Rice, Brown Pasta, Malto-Meal (Plain, whole wheat),etc

○ Good Protein Examples: White or Dark Tuna, Chicken Breast, Lean Turkey, Lean Ham, Very lean Beef, Quality Whey Protein Powder,, etc

○ Good Fats Examples: Natural Peanut Butter, Various Nuts, Flax Seed, Fish Oils.

This is what you need to do:

This an approximation science, but you can narrow it down very close, if your meticulous in your vision when looking at the data.

Tweak your desire and passion by educating yourself on the basic requirements of losing fat tissue. With your age, sex, height, and weight, in mind, find your approximated base calorie needs (this is organ function, breathing, or bodily function needs). One can use the Benedict Formula.

Calculate your BMR:

The Harris Benedict equation determines calorie needs for men or woman as follows:

• It calculates your Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR) calorie requirements, based on your height, weight, age and gender.

• It increases your BMR calorie needs by taking into account the number of calories you burn through activities such as exercise.

This gives you your total calorie requirement or approximated Maintenance Line (I call it the MT Line).

Step One : Calculate your BMR with the following formula:

•Women: BMR = 655 + (4.35 x weight in pounds) + (4.7 x height in inches) - (4.7 x age in years)
•Men: BMR = 66 + (6.23 x weight in pounds) + (12.7 x height in inches) - (6.8 x age in years)

Step Two : In order to incorporate activity into your daily caloric needs, do the following calculation:

•If you are sedentary : BMR x 1.2
•If you are lightly active: BMR x 1.375
•If you are moderately active (You exercise most days a week.): BMR x 1.55
•If you are very active (You exercise daily.): BMR x 1.725
•If you are extra active (You do hard labor or are in athletic training.): BMR x 1.9

Create a Calorie Deficit:

In order to lose weight, you must create a calorie deficit. It is easier and healthier to cut back your calorie intake a little bit at a time.

Every 3,500 calories is equivalent to approximated 1 pound.

If you cut back 500 calories a day, you will lose approximated 1 pound per week. (not necessarily all fat)

If you exercise to burn off 500 calories a day you will also lose approximately 1 pound per week.

The calorie deficit margin is just an example:

Apply this knowledge by backing off the approximated MT Line (approximated Maintenance line), say for example, a -500c per day, for about 1 week. Before the week begins, weigh yourself in the AM when you FIRST get up (do not eat yet) (remember your clothing, preferably with just underwear and t-shirt or like clothes). Note the time, and the approximated wgt.
Each day spread your caloric content out throughout the day (keep the body fed, with calories in the 300 to 500c approximated calories each meal), or a like division which mirrors your end caloric deficit limit (meaning MT-500c).

This way you have your entire day and body encircled with nutrition (I assume you already know to eat clean), which if your eating right, will give an approximated good energy (not optimal because your in deficit) to fuel your training and exercising schedule.

At the end of the week, on the same day, the same time, with the same like clothes, weigh yourself again. Note whether you lost or gained tissue (or weight I mean). To further assist you, I want to tell you that for every approximated caloric deficit of (-3500c), one could lose 1lb of fat tissue. (though some may not all be fat tissue, this information is for another question, and isn't presently suited here).

Now, in this example you were calculating a -500c per day deficit. There needs to be -3500c to lose approximated 1lbs of fat. Now lets do some basic math. -500cX7=-3500c. With all things considered equal, and you were meticulous and faithful on the diet, you should have been CLOSE to losing at least one pound of tissue in the week.

If this didn't happen, this means you need to make finer adjustments, and the MT line is not accurate, and you need to adjust this on your own.

Based upon the FEEDBACK your body is giving you, ask yourself how faithful you were on the diet, AND how faithful in training (whether you kept the training schedule (if you didn't, this would effect the caloric equation, no?!), AND how accurate you figured in your activities caloric wise.........but, you have the base information to begin making adjustments.
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One can not spot reduce. Losing fat is like draining a pool. The shallow end seems to drain before the larger deeper end. One can't choose where to lose fat; it will be lost all over the body.

The Nutrients are an essential factor in the diet; however, the law of energy balance within the DIET, is the ultimate KING while the Nutrients can play in some decisions made within the body.

Do yourself a favor, figure out your MT line, adjust off of this, eat well balanced spaced out meals (DONT EVER starve YOURSELF), AND listen to your body for the results.

While you are trying to figure out your body, IT WILL PAY YOU BACK, I promise. You have to learn to MASTER yourself to become the master of weight loss for YOURSELF.
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"Let your inner vision cultivate your ultimate exterior expression" —Chillen

"The strongest inner feeling that prevails will result in the exterior expression" –Chillen

"Your cultivation and manifestation of thought accumulated within your reasoning will determine your outcome"----Chillen
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Deficit dieting is the fat burner, and EVERYTHING follows after this. The deficit can be implemented through the diet or exercise can cause the deficit when you know your MT line reference. Without a adequate deficit, cardio WILL NOT burn fat off you. This is WHY I don't partake in the cardio debates of heart rate, etc........because the bottom line is the deficit diet....period, debate OVER. If you stick to the basic: The Law of energy balance, and tip this to the negative side of the equation, you will be on your way, with everything considered equal and your healthy.


If you want to lose overall body fat, get your diet in order, eat clean, learn what your approximate MT reference line is according to activities (and back off a HEALTHY margin), and perform overall weight training, and of course, include cardio (cardio DOES have its benefits other than burning calories, carbs, fat, ect).

The most effective beginning is to look at your diet, and make a diet journal in my opinion, THEN work in a training program around this diet.

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Its gonna take some work, and time. You have NO CHOICE but to embrace this to achieve your goal

I say this in reference to the work necessary to achieve it; some have alot of obsession at the beginning (and obsession to a---Point, is necessary), but some lose this obsession once they learn the amount of work it requires. There eyes then widen and then the obsession then pops right out. Dont let this happen to you: Raise your Want-o-Meter to a new higher level.

Best Regards,


Chillen

NOW ROCK IT!!!!


ROCK ON!
 
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thanks guys and thanks especially to chillen. I'll do my best, but is it still imperitive i do a few days a week cardio in the gym, or is it doing nothing for me and wasting my time?

And i need help on eating heathy food. I cant stand anything green, vegetables or salads. I find them impossible to eat.
 
thanks guys and thanks especially to chillen. I'll do my best, but is it still imperitive i do a few days a week cardio in the gym, or is it doing nothing for me and wasting my time?

And i need help on eating heathy food. I cant stand anything green, vegetables or salads. I find them impossible to eat.

You are very welcome.

Can you be mores specific in your personal goals? Toning can be simply a program surrounded with correct weight training and a diet designed to bring the body fat down and can be WITHOUT cardio.(this is stated in simple terms).

Cardio will not be a waist of time if diet is correct, but I am in the opinion, that your use of cardio depends on what your personal goals are.

Cardio can definitely assist with bringing the body fat down, but like I stated before, to get its full benefits, the diet MUST be correct. If you want to keep most of your muscle mass, weight training and diet should be the most concern, in my humble opinion.

Some dont like doing cardio while "Cutting" because of the opinion one may lose more muscle mass than one would without it, but the diet has the most viable connection to this potential loss than cardio; but cardio can add some elements in the equation that can be undesirable (and desirable) dependent upon the muscle mass to begin with, and whats personaly acceptable during the cutting phase (if you see what I am saying).

Basically I am just stating it depends on what you want, and dependent on this, cardio can play a very good roll.

When I say diet is the most viable connection than cardio I mean that if one is in a deficit diet and perform cardio and for sake of arguement, perform at a correct intensity and duration, this deficit diet AND cardio can be a VERY deadly combination for tissue loss. I say tissue loss, because the fuel source in this example situation, can be both muscle and/or fat tissue at some point, and thus the reason why some dont like it.

You can bring your body fat down without cardio, as it is not required for fat loss. What is required is a correct diet. You can focus your efforts to a clean and correct caloric diet and weight training, and do just fine, in most cases.


Be more specific your goals, forum Brotha!


ROCK ON!


Best Wishes



Chillen
 
How about fruit and lean protein, nuts and healthy fats.

There is a lot of wiggle room between eating chocolate, crisps, and junk food and eating carrots and sprouts.

You can also eat a healthy meal by including vegetables and other healthy choices in a casserole or a soup.

Also, it takes time to develop a taste for certain foods. If you simply take a taste of a vegetable, once a week for several weeks you will gradually find the food more tolerable and may soon determine that you like it.

If you truly vomit by eating a lettuce leaf you probably should see a doctor.
 
How about fruit and lean protein, nuts and healthy fats.

There is a lot of wiggle room between eating chocolate, crisps, and junk food and eating carrots and sprouts.

You can also eat a healthy meal by including vegetables and other healthy choices in a casserole or a soup.

Also, it takes time to develop a taste for certain foods. If you simply take a taste of a vegetable, once a week for several weeks you will gradually find the food more tolerable and may soon determine that you like it.

If you truly vomit by eating a lettuce leaf you probably should see a doctor.

I have an involuntary impulse to vomit at the smell of and taste of Liver, and liver has his pros in consumption, but I dont eat it, because I cant stand it. Sometimes a dislike for food is involuntary and not necessarily a mental issue. He may just not like lettuce or have an involuntary dislike for it; therefore, he can be suited to other clean and healthy choices.
 
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ok cheers, good to talk to ppl like u who know what they are talking about. Well tbh i'm not that fat and i do have quite a bit of muscle, just some areas are a bit flabby. All i want to do is tone up.

If i eat casseroles, curry's meat etc, like what i eat anyway, but i have vegetables wth it, will that be good? And does it matter what i put on vegetables as long as they get into my system? Example, if i had a stir fry, put meat and stuff in it, with maybe some ketchup, or another kind of sauce to change the flavour, would that be ok? coz they will still be getting into me.
 
If your cooking the oil using vegetable oil, it adds alot of un needed calories and half the vegetables nutritional vitamins would have gone down the drain

People eat vegetables because they contain a good source of vitamins and that they are low in calories, if your going to cook it in oil and add ketchup on top of it sorta negates the purpose.
 
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