Headaches and Nauseau present after excercise

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soggycrouton

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I recently start Jui-Jitsu, and it has really reminded me of a problem I've had as long as I've been excercise. During classes, I will be more or less fine, and while I may get very exerted and tired, I do just as well as anyone. I excercise somewhat regularly, and used to do Tae Kwon Do. I have mediocre endurance and above average strength.

However, while I'll do fairly well during classes, after then I feel miserable. I have a pretty severe headache, and pretty bad nausuea. Meanwhile, everyone else, even those who are definitely in comparable shape to me, are fine. I have to sit down for the next few minutes, and I recently threw up.

The thing is, these aren't particularly new symptoms for me. They're a little worse because Jui-jitsu is pretty hard and I'm at a high altitude (7000ft), but they really aren't anything new. While feeling unwell isn't uncommon in extreme overexcertion, I don't feel that I'm doing this, which leads me to wonder if there's some sort of underlying cause, especially because of the nauseau.

Has anyone heard of anything like this? Or is it just the altitude and overexertion?

Thanks.
 
Um, beforehand of after? I've heard that you're not supposed to eat right before excercising, and I'd agree, since I feel sluggish and not as motivated. And afterwards I usually do try and eat something, but I'm actually not very hungry at all because my stomach is uncomfortable. Also, this nausea presents within a few minutes after I'm done and goes away within 30 minutes to an hour. So I'm not sure if that's it.
 
soggycrouton said:
Okay, I suppose that's possible. I'm curious if there's any other theory though.
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Altitude may be a key, it may not.

I have two thoughts about this that may be intereconnected.

1. Altitude, because of oxygen content may be an issue. If you have thick blood in addition, it could very well be that oxygen transport is not what it needs to be for you when you exercise. The fix: time. Progressively work into it. -Or be conscious enough to take appropriate measures to just slightly thin the blood. Lots of good herbs do this, but like any other medication, I wouldn't go that route unless absolutely necessary, and only after you are sure that is the issue and side effects are considered.

2. Migraines. I have these as well. Now, to explain this, I will try to stay off my soap box. :D

Everyone will try to tell you we do not know what causes migraines. That statement is like saying we do not know what causes rust. Migraines are clearly the result of one simple thing: lack of circulatory response in the upper spinal and cranial regions of the body. Many things agitate or amplify this effect, but the bottom line is that blood is constricted and cannot flow to proper places, hence the tightness, pain, and usual symptoms including those you describe. Agitating factors include dietary things as well as stress and exercise.

-Yet exercise can also RELIEVE symptoms depending on where YOUR particular issue manifests its self. In general, exercise agitates the issue because most people do not do enough serious cardio for the region that is constricted, therefore they never see relief.

I have had migraines for most of my life, and I have found out how to fix them temporarily or cure them permenantly, and it isn't the usual B.S. you get of "it works for some, and not for others". A fix isn't a fix unless it is flawless and universal. My migraines are generally agitated by my stress which can occur as frequently as 2-3 times per week or 1 time every month depending. I currently live at 4500 ft elevation and moved from 100 ft elevation 1 year ago. It took about 6 months for my migraines to go from excessive to normal.

It is worth mentioning that I also have thick blood. High temperatures or heavy exercise often agitates my migraines if I do not do proper cardio for the upper back, spinal, and shoulder areas.



So, those are my two thoughts totalling $.02 . I would assume these two potential causes are worth researching, but I would not assume either to be your direct issue because I don't know much about your lifestyle or history. If migraines are truly the issue, then you have non-medicinal options. If migraines are NOT the issue, I hope you find out the cause soon.
 
Yeah, altitude could also be a factor, though again, no one else seems to have similar problems. I'm thinking I'll just try taking an advil before and after every practice, and see if that helps. It'll ease pain slightly, and isn't advil supposed to thin your blood?
 
soggycrouton said:
Yeah, altitude could also be a factor, though again, no one else seems to have similar problems. I'm thinking I'll just try taking an advil before and after every practice, and see if that helps. It'll ease pain slightly, and isn't advil supposed to thin your blood?
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Advil does have a blood thinning effect.

Just out of curiosity, do you get problems with vision such as blind spots or sensitivity to light as well?

How about your ears? Does your hearing get extra sensitive with all of this going on?
 
hawk - maybe I missed it, but could you describe in a little more detail how you alleviate your migraines? thanks kindly :)
 
dok said:
hawk - maybe I missed it, but could you describe in a little more detail how you alleviate your migraines? thanks kindly :)
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I use standing 3 circle quigong. -A posture you hold for 10 minutes, change slightly, then hold for 5 minutes. It is a component of Taiji and causes the body to relax while opening up circulatory channels.

The 3 important things to remember:

1. It takes 2 sessions per day: one before bed, one upon rising before you get the hang of it, and it may take a month or so at that. It is an incredibly non-natural posture to hold if you have never done it before.

2. It is not anything religious or magical. This is a simple process of "unkinking" the circulatory "hoses" so to speak. It is purely PHYSICAL. It allows you to force the blood to make several passes through the entire body like a jackhammer where constrictions reside. By pushing the blood to the toes, then forcing it up to the top of the head and back down, the end result is that channels open. -The byproduct is violent shaking of the limbs until you have really gotten the process down, not to mention the feeling that you are trying to hold up a house by yourself.

Doing this for several weeks means you have to do less later for equal result. Therefore, you may stop doing it after a few months. If you do, expect migraines to reappear at somepoint potentially a few weeks down the line. If they do, one session in the morning will prevent it for at least a day or so. The point here is that you need to get the body used to feeling the cure, then apply it as a preventative regularly. If you choose not to do anything preventative after getting used to the posture, you will still find the occurances far less frequent and you can always do this exercise when you feel one coming on which heads it off and kills it.


3. Nobody teaches this correctly.

Truly.

The guy you should learn it from -who is the most authoritative figure in the world currently is Erle Montaigue. His tape/cd with it is categorized "MTG1". Look him up and you will learn all about his credentials and such.

You will find this was the best research for the solving of a migraine that could be done.
 
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