Get arrested for giving homeless people food in Orlando!

Monster2

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Here's a link to one of many news stories about Orlando's new law.
I'm not quite sure what kind of politician would encourage this, but I hope that the voters are smart enough to vote against these asses in the next election.
And yes, this is absolutely true.

HOWEVER..... there is very good news here as well.
:hurray:
This gives me faith in the citizens of the US again, because there have been many protests and "civil disobedience" by the good citizens of Orlando that have gone out of their way to feed the homeless to show their displeasure.
There are many other stories in the news and online about this law, as well as arrests and protests.

Those who wished to feed more than 25 hungry individuals at parks within a 2-mile radius of City Hall could do so, but only if they obtained a "Large Group Feeding Permit" from the parks department — and no one would be granted more than two feeding permits a year.
 
Honestly, I don't even know where to start....I'll just sit here for a while, shaking my head in disbelief.
 
I don't see a problem with this. Call me whatever bad name you like, but it makes sense to me. If people would actually read what the law entails, there is no reason to be upset about it. It's not saying people aren't allowed to feed the homeless - it's saying that you can't form a makeshift feeding depot for the homeless in locations like a city park...unless you have a permit. Wow, what dicks those politicians are - making people get permits before they occupy large public territories. What scum.

Anyway, if you want to feed the homeless, do it at a shelter. Don't do it in the middle of a public place where large groups of people may cause a disturbance. It can be disruptive and could potentially cause problems. Not to mention, the issue of sanitation. But, that's another story.
 
Chef... here's what the law doesn't say:
(quoted from news article)
Those who wished to feed more than 25 hungry individuals at parks within a 2-mile radius of City Hall could do so, but only if they obtained a "Large Group Feeding Permit" from the parks department — and no one would be granted more than two feeding permits a year.
So, as you see, it really does rest so it really does restrict the amount of help a person or organization can provide.
I understand the people who THINK they might be doing the right thing for the community, but they're really not helping.
 
Chef... here's what the law doesn't say:
(quoted from news article)

So, as you see, it really does rest so it really does restrict the amount of help a person or organization can provide.
I understand the people who THINK they might be doing the right thing for the community, but they're really not helping.

That part of the law does hardly anything to inhibit a person's or organization's ability to help the homeless.

Put the permit in somebody else's name. GASP, that was hard to get around.
 
That part of the law does hardly anything to inhibit a person's or organization's ability to help the homeless.

Put the permit in somebody else's name. GASP, that was hard to get around.
I thought of that myself, but in a bureaucracy, it might not be quite that easy.
I don't know... I'm not a lawyer, and I don't live in Orlando.
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Either way, I still believe the intent of this law, if not the letter, is punishing the homeless, and keeping people from being able to help them.
And I am proud that certain good citizen are rising up to be Good Samaritans to fight this law.
Since these homeless are on US streets, I believe that the right to help some one in need should be an inalienable right.
Heck... I might even do a drive-by sandwich just to show my support.
 
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I do not care what the law says exactly to be honest - its intent is clear. Keep the homeless where the big wigs don't have to see them.

They are trying the old 'out of sight, out of mind' approach instead of trying to do something to actually solve the problem - THAT is what pisses me off.

And no, not all homeless people are lazy drunkards and drug addicts. There's people who've done nothing wrong and still ended up on the streets. I'm sure they would love not to have to beg in the park, and be out of sight of those that think they are nothing but an eyesore. There's just no support for them.

That's the real problem I see with this law. Not 'where' or 'how' it's allowed to give food to homeless people.
 
I don't believe the purpose of the law is to punish the homeless. I believe it's to keep a park relatively family friendly place. I believe if a consistent feeding area for homeless were to be established in the park that would severely diminish the family friendly zone.

The police were not arresting people for this act, simply telling them to do it in a more appropriate area which I agree with. A food bank or shelter would be a much more appropriate place. A public park is not place for potentially hundreds of homeless to congregate.
 
I thought of that myself, but in a bureaucracy, it might not be quite that easy.
I don't know... I'm not a lawyer, and I don't live in Orlando.
...........
Either way, I still believe the intent of this law, if not the letter, is punishing the homeless, and keeping people from being able to help them.
And I am proud that certain good citizen are rising up to be Good Samaritans to fight this law.
Since these homeless are on US streets, I believe that the right to help some one in need should be an inalienable right.
Heck... I might even do a drive-by sandwich just to show my support.

The way the article makes it sound is like Orlando is 'attacking' the homeless, as if they are giving a big middle finger to people who live on the streets. Ignore the theme of the article and the attitude of the author. Instead, focus on the reality.

There are city ordinances put into place in almost every single city in the country that forbid people from bathing, washing, shaving (etc) in public restrooms or sleeping on park benches, bushes and bus stops. Orlando is no different. And, it's never going to be.

The author makes it sound like those city ordinances are unjustified, as if there is no reason to enforce those rules - as if they were only put into place out of hatred for the homeless. That is simply not the case. Just because there are signs posted in public bathrooms that cite a city ordinance that forbids people from bathing in the sink, it doesn't make it worse. It's a sign. And, the author makes it seem as if posting a sign that simply states a city rule is hateful and bigoted. And, the author carries that attitude throughout the entire article. But, if you cut through the author's obvious intent (which is to make Orlando and its city officials look like scumbags), you will see that nothing wrong is going on.

The law in question forces individuals and organizations that wish to feed the homeless in public places to get a permit before they do so. And, only two permits per year are allowed for each individual and/or organization. Nowhere does the law state that people can't feed the homeless. It simply forces organizations to, ironically, be more organized.

How is that punishing the homeless or preventing anybody from helping them?

And, for the record - read different articles about this issue. The people who have been arrested for violating the law were not taken into custody for 'no reason,' as many would like to believe. They were breaking a law and they were doing it on purpose, with defiance. They were taken to jail for a reason, not because Orlando city officials are big, bad, evil dictators.

I don't believe the purpose of the law is to punish the homeless. I believe it's to keep a park relatively family friendly place. I believe if a consistent feeding area for homeless were to be established in the park that would severely diminish the family friendly zone.

The police were not arresting people for this act, simply telling them to do it in a more appropriate area which I agree with. A food bank or shelter would be a much more appropriate place. A public park is not place for potentially hundreds of homeless to congregate.

Exactly.

People who have a problem with this law are just looking at it from a skewed point of view, as if the city of Orlando (or any city for that matter) owes it to the homeless to let them eat, live and sleep wherever they want. I mean, would YOU let a homeless person sleep in your bushes and take a bath with your garden hose? No, you wouldn't. So, why expect the Parks Department to be ok with it?
 
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