Sport Friend Taking Steroids(What should I do?)

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Hi, I'm 16 years old and ive been doing some hard lifting for the past 5 months now in the gym. In the past, I was an exeptionally fit athlete and in 8th grade i was able to bench 205 and i only weighed 132 pounds and ran a 5.2 in the 40 yard dash. but, as i progressed into high school, I was overloaded with the new school and classes, and i wasnt able to get into a conditioning class for my freshman year. so during 9th grade I basically lost everything i worked hard to achieve and became a little flabby and out of shape. But in 10th grade I started getting back into it. I signed up for conditioning and started working out. Initially, i was VERY disappointed in myself, because I realized that alot of the kids that i used to out-muscle had caught up to me, since i hadnt done ANY working out for the past year. But as time progressed on in 10th grade, I got back into my groove and quickly recovered most of the muscle that i lost. Later that year, after conditioning was over. I got myself an LA Fitness membership, and took working out more seriously. the older guys who worked out there motivated me to try my best in lifting weights and to not slack off and never miss work out days. After nearly 4 months of workingout there, i realized that i bulked up ALOT(all of my old clothes is very tight on me now), got very fit, and learned alot about nutritioning and dieting.(BTW im 16, weigh 148 pounds, 5"6, and can bench 250 pounds, my triceps are SUPER ripped :D) well, thats just MY story.

I have a close friend who is kind of a hypocrite. he acts like hes a real "badass" who loves listening to metal and tries to insult the pants off of anyone he knows and loves to try putting them down and telling them about their flaws.(but hes never really looked at himself) he'd always try teasing me for going to the gym and working out, mockingly calls me a "Mr. Big time fitness-guru"(haha...). ANYWAYS, he would always talk trash about other people. saying that they're, "stupid wannabe gangster pricks" or "stupid wannabe jocks" and would always say that he'd like to "beat the living s_it out of them". the problem with him is that he hasnt even actually done any real working out or sports for the past 2 years and is a sophomore in highschool. and alot of the people that he thinks he can "beat-up" can most probably beat HIM up.

anyways, recently he began opening up to me, and telling me that he wanted to get muscular like me. so i told him to either try taking some supplements or proteins, or just do some plain old hard work in the gym for a few months. Well, he basically rejected all of the advice that i gave him, and went STRAIGHT to saying, I WANT TO TAKE STEROIDS. After hearing this, i advised him to not take it and that at the age of 16, and that it will seriosuly mess him up big time. but, he kept insisting that hes going to do it, and that he already got a supply of pills coming in by the next week. the problem with this is that, not only is he 16, but he has NO CLUE about nutritioning and dieting, and barely studied up on the steroids hes taking(he only read the information label of his steroids, but we all know that those kind of labels only try promoting the product and dont actually tell the cons of them...). I believe he ordered some steroids called Cetabon.

recently i talked to a couplke of much older fellas at the gym and they told me a large amount of information about steroids and how it can ruin his life, physically and mentally.

I really am worried about the choice he is about to make, and im afraid hes going to make a bad choice in life by taking these steroids. i just want to hear some advice from some people about what would happen to him if he began to take them, and what should i do. Should i tell his older brother to try stopping him?(yea, some bestfriend i would turn out to be) Or should i just keep telling him that it's not worth it, and have my advice be completely ignored/insulted by him?
 
tell him it shrinks his jewls that would probably work
 
he already knows that it does that. besides, they go back to normal after about 2 weeks of discontinuing.
 
did you tell him that it could lead to him going crazy like the huy from wrestling chris benoit that killed his whole family
 
What I would do (this may not be right) is to give him some information about steroids in hard copy (printed) Ignorant people like your friend wont listen to advice someone is saying to them because they have too much pride to act like they need advice. I was one of these people by the way, though I could smash everyone and that I knew everything. I had anger issues :yelrotflmao: Anyway it wasnt until my girlfriend worried about me, although I was never angry when I was around her. gave me some leaflets for some counselling that I started to read and worked out that I couldnt be ignorant anymore and I started listening to people.

Anyway what I am trying to get at is that your friend might be like me and need steering in the right direction not by confrontation but by facilitation. Just leave something laying round. He will read it ill bet you bottom dollar. Just be there for him and try and be a good mate. You cant change someones mind about something but you can be there to try to.

Hope this helps, good luck.
 
he did, he took his moms credit card and bought a months supply of them, while telling her that he was purchasing a game off of an internet site, plus he's half white and korean, and his moms korean, so she wouldnt know that hes purchasing steroids even if she did look at the name of the site he purchased it off of.
 
NBS 4life said:
What I would do (this may not be right) is to give him some information about steroids in hard copy (printed) Ignorant people like your friend wont listen to advice someone is saying to them because they have too much pride to act like they need advice. I was one of these people by the way, though I could smash everyone and that I knew everything. I had anger issues :yelrotflmao: Anyway it wasnt until my girlfriend worried about me, although I was never angry when I was around her. gave me some leaflets for some counselling that I started to read and worked out that I couldnt be ignorant anymore and I started listening to people.

Anyway what I am trying to get at is that your friend might be like me and need steering in the right direction not by confrontation but by facilitation. Just leave something laying round. He will read it ill bet you bottom dollar. Just be there for him and try and be a good mate. You cant change someones mind about something but you can be there to try to.

Hope this helps, good luck.
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hah, ya he's reallly stubborn about that, i told him about everything that would happen to him if he did take them. gettin pimply, anger issues(more than he does even now,especially at his mom), increased size of left ventricle in the heart, stunted growth when starting young, ball shrinkage, mass loss of muscle after discontinuing, depression about losing muscle and reliance on the product as the only means of increasing muscle mass, plus the fact that most girls would not like the fact that hes trying to get big through taking roids..... lots of them. hopefully hell change his mind about taking them, but knowing him, hell prolly still take them out of curiosity.
 
No offense to you but your friend sounds like a tool...he rips on other people that are doing something about there size the normal way for ages then comes out like a bitch and ses he wants to get big and goes strait for the steroids...that in my mind made him even lower and he now stole his mums credit card to buy them of some website...sounds like he needs a good old fashion punch in the head :boxing_smiley:
 
believe me, there have been numerous times where ive almost kicked his ass for saying/doing stupid things.
 
pat555 said:
did you tell him that it could lead to him going crazy like the huy from wrestling chris benoit that killed his whole family
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Sorry but that's a load of crap, there is no way of knowing what caused Benoit to kill his family. If it was 'roid rage' then how come it took him 2-3 days to commit all the killings? That doesn't sound like a rage to me

Smex said:
he already knows that it does that. besides, they go back to normal after about 2 weeks of discontinuing.
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Not if he doesn't know what he's doing!
I've never taken steriods myself but I did research them a lot out of curiosity a while back and although I think it's possible to keep your natural test supply and take steroids it takes a hell of a lot of work and advice from people who know what they're talking about.

If I were you I wouldn't openly criticize your friend as it might stregthen his resolve to go ahead anyway but instead ask him to join a forum like T-nation so he can get some advice on how to the most out of them. When there, the seasoned pro's should tell him enough to either talk him out of it or he'll see the amount of time, money and research that goes into taking them safely and decide not to do it.

The fact of it is that your friend doesn't need them because of his age. His test levels should be naturally high and I doubt he's anywhere near his natural growth potential yet anyway.
 
one cycle of steroids CAN ruin your body, and no, your balls don't always come back after you stop taking steroids. there's the whole world of POST cycle therapy that helps your endocrine system start working on its own again...hopefully exactly the same way it used to pre-steroid use.

you CAN use steroids with 'reasonable' safety, but your buddy isn't even remotely trying.

Honestly if it was my 'good friend' I'd narc him out to both is parents, the school principal...anyone I could find that might do something.

I'd rather possibly lose a friend and be labeled a narc, than be his pallbearer and live with that much guilt.
 
malkore said:
Honestly if it was my 'good friend' I'd narc him out to both is parents, the school principal...anyone I could find that might do something.

I'd rather possibly lose a friend and be labeled a narc, than be his pallbearer and live with that much guilt.
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Just what I was about to say - telling someone about it isn't always a bad thing.
 
well ur friend is making a poor choice, id rat him out :p

plus cetabon,.(a thailand produced knockoff of Stanozolol) is junk anyway when it comes to mass building. I guess even if he takes those , it shouldnt be THAT bad, Especially if he takes the recommened dose of 5mg or whatever it claims.(typically ppl would take around 50 mg per day) Too my knowledge its hardly used for bulking, i suppose u can stack it up with something but anywhooooo its used mostly in conjuction with other things for cutting. (to keep lean mass while dieting to loose fat)

so with his diet, and routine being crappy, he wont even notice any gains, also since its orally taken, its very taxing on thee liver.... :( and livers are cool
 
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well, i just wanted to update this old post. my "friend" got completely jipped, he spent like 80$ and the product never even arrived at his house,(this is what you get for ordering crap from some bootleg japanese website haha). he's now just sitting around and promising that he'll be working out and bulking up, which is what he's been saying for the past year now and still hasn't even started. He went and bought Mass and Weight Gainers at a SuperSupplement store I took him to, and doesn't even use them.

He is the most bitter, self-centered, ignorant, and anti-social person I have ever met, and yet I somehow was his best friend for nearly 3 years.
He's been a constant pain in the ass to have around when it comes to moral support and advice. I remember when he'd rank on me for having a gym membership at an LA Fitness and saying how only "skinny prep fags"(which is ubsurd) only go there, and how ridiculous it is to even go in there. Then, later he'd eat his own words and start complaining about how great it would be to have a membership there and start talking about how he wants one so badly. He feels that he should never "conform" with the rest of society and thinks that the ONLY way to have fun is to do drugs and somehow "prove" to everyone that he's the cool guy by doing it.

His greatest problem is that he himself has no beneficial hobbies, amounts to almost nothing, has virtually no friends because of his self-centered attitude, and talks crap behind the backs of those few friends he has to other people. The fact that he has to bring down his own friends in order to make himself look good sickens me. And I happened to fall victim to his gossiping this time.

I tried being this guys wingman, but it just isn't the best idea right now, and now I just want to beat the snot out of his pale ass for making so many stupid choices and actions. I've come to the realization that he's not someone I should be hanging around with, and is the worst person I've ever met. Even now I wonder how I even became his best friend. I'm moving on with my other friends and letting this guy do w/e he wants to do with himself. In fact, I really do hope that he secretly gets ahold of some steroids, so that he can ruin himself and learn his lesson the hard way, cuz of all the ignorant people who deserve a hard slap in the face in life, he takes the prize out of all of them.
 
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well, at least he's still alive. sounds like he needs some counselling too. you normally aren't that big of a prick unless you have some serious baggage or a chemical imbalance...neither of which is healthy.
 
Smex said:
I remember when he'd rank on me for having a gym membership at an LA Fitness and saying how only "skinny prep fags"(which is ubsurd) only go there, and how ridiculous it is to even go in there. He feels that he should never "conform" with the rest of society and thinks that the ONLY way to have fun is to do drugs and somehow "prove" to everyone that he's the cool guy by doing it.
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Replace drugs with drinking and smoking and this sounds like most people that I work with.
 
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