Fighting back against the BS

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Typhon

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Hi Everyone

I'll try and stop this from turning into a rant but the amount of crap spouted by self appointed experts in magazines is starting to really get on my nerves.
My breaking point came today when I saw a guy walking around my gym holding this book called something like 'Turn fat into muscle' by Mens Health. These guys should know better but they just see a chance to get money out of people by making false or misleading claims.
All too often I go to the gym and I see loads of overweight people knocking out hundreds of sit-ups in the belief that weight will fly off their waist and they'll be left with this fantastic six pack because some idiots have told them that in a magazine.

All you need to do is look on a magazine stand and you'll be able to spot these ridiculous claims like 'get huge arms in 2 weeks' or loose 2 stone in a week glaring out at you.

Obviously the first thing we can do is stop buying these crappy titles but they will continue to harm peoples health because most people don't know any better and just assume that the printed material is true and buy the magazine which only perpetuates this cycle.

Do you think it would be possible to petition the Health Ministry or the WHO to impose fines on anyone printing obviously inaccurate information?
 
Just to add, there's a woman in my office who pays to get wrapped in cling film once a week in the belief it takes inches off your fat!

Whoever told her this ought to be shot! Harsh but fair
 
CCR said:
Just to add, there's a woman in my office who pays to get wrapped in cling film once a week in the belief it takes inches off your fat!

Whoever told her this ought to be shot! Harsh but fair
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oh god, I laughed for a full minute picturing this.
 
Wait, so you mean the routine I got out of that Mag isn't going to work for me?

$#%@@$ what the hell am I going to do now!!!!
 
CCR said:
Just to add, there's a woman in my office who pays to get wrapped in cling film once a week in the belief it takes inches off your fat!

Whoever told her this ought to be shot! Harsh but fair
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I think it's cruel to prey on people who are desperate to lose weight. But you have to put some of the blame on the 'people'. We live in a society that doesn't want to 'work' for anything anymore and is kind of, well, lazy. now I'm not saying all but enough

Why not pay for it? is the mentality of a lot of the people who are always looking for the magic pill or the magic wrap in her case, or gastric bipass, or lipo:(....maybe you should tell her she's wasting her time and money.

A girl here in my office wanted to look for one of those girdles so that she can "sweat" off the fat. I told her to invest in some weights instead because she's be wasting her money otherwise, but who knows if she believed me or not...
 
Men's Health Best: Turn Fat into Muscle includes:

* A fitness strategy that helps you commit to consistency, not change your whole lifestyle.
* Vital diet-and-nutrition tips that will help you lose fat while building muscle
* An essential guide to the vitamins you need for your most basic needs and the most common problems.
* The best workouts for fat loss and muscle growth.

MY GOD!
 
~LV~ said:
Wait, so you mean the routine I got out of that Mag isn't going to work for me?

$#%@@$ what the hell am I going to do now!!!!
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Right on

CCR said:
Do you think it would be possible to petition the Health Ministry or the WHO to impose fines on anyone printing obviously inaccurate information?
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Go for ya life buddy
 
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Moonbeam3 said:
...maybe you should tell her she's wasting her time and money.
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To be honest I've found that accurate advice on fitness doesn't go down very well. If there are 2 bits of advice out there, one involves 30 minutes of pampering with expensive treatments in a spa with numerous celebrity endorsments and the other involves self restraint with diet and life style from one guy in their office people will always give the easy options a go first.

I just get people saying it's easy for me because of genetics, at this point I want to strangle them but I think I might lose any credibility if I did that.
 
Karky said:
Men's Health Best: Turn Fat into Muscle includes:

* A fitness strategy that helps you commit to consistency, not change your whole lifestyle.
* Vital diet-and-nutrition tips that will help you lose fat while building muscle
* An essential guide to the vitamins you need for your most basic needs and the most common problems.
* The best workouts for fat loss and muscle growth.

MY GOD!
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I'm sure some of what's written isn't that bad at all but they're selling it on a misconception. It's like trying to hide the veg on a kids plate.

If you say 'lose fat and gain muscle' you'll have lots of fat men eatting a lot less to increase results while going on this routine and the result will be muscle loss due to the calorie deficit. At best they will get short term gains if they are a beginner
 
It's not just one magazine its most magazines... Most magazines have 'catchy' titles so that you will buy the magazine. Then alot of people will try whatever it is and come out without any results and wonder why its not working. People (at least in America) do not want to get their lazy butts up and do something they would rather buy the latest pill (that may work, but is expensive, overrated, & after you stop taking them...you gain back all of the fat-usually more- that you did have) I don't undersand how society can talk about the obesity rate when they are helping it grow. Nobody cares enough to actually tell somebody the truth when it comes to telling someone that they need to get up and do something. It's not only adults but children are becoming much much bigger than they used to because all they do is come home and watch tv. What happened to the great outdoors!!! It makes me upset that people can look back and let something like this happen.

CCR when you make that petition send it to me to sign!
 
CCR Skye, I agree with you guys 100%. Sadly we live in a society which demands instant gratification and results.

This has always been a sore subject with me. I know I don't look perfect and there is always room for imporovement but what I've got I've worked hard for. I got my first gym membership when I was 16 years old and not to give away my age or anything but I've kept it for over 15 years!!!

I can honestly say that working out and eating healthy has kept me looking and feeling much younger than I really am.

Skye said:
Nobody cares enough to actually tell somebody the truth when it comes to telling someone that they need to get up and do something. It's not only adults but children are becoming much much bigger than they used to because all they do is come home and watch tv.
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It's not necessarily that people don't care, it's just that as CCR said people not only get defensive but think you are being down right rude if you tell them.

And another contributer to obese children is what they eat (not just lack of activity). Parents are doing them a disservice by buying junk to put into their lunchboxes, I mean they're not doing their own shopping!
 
Ignorant, Idiotic people deserve what they get. If they choose to believe the "fads" and "get big quick schemes" from those sorry ass magazines then thats their own fault.
 
Moonbeam3 said:
And another contributer to obese children is what they eat (not just lack of activity). Parents are doing them a disservice by buying junk to put into their lunchboxes, I mean they're not doing their own shopping!
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You said it Moonbeam. It's just plain wrong how parents will buy their kids chips, candy, cookies to eat and let their 7 year olds drink Coke and Dr. Pepper. I mean come on man! I don't care how ignorant you are. You can't possibly think it's ok to give your kids that fizzy garbage day in and day out.

~Nicole
 
calcium said:
You said it Moonbeam. It's just plain wrong how parents will buy their kids chips, candy, cookies to eat and let their 7 year olds drink Coke and Dr. Pepper. I mean come on man! I don't care how ignorant you are. You can't possibly think it's ok to give your kids that fizzy garbage day in and day out.

~Nicole
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I know a girl who gives her 18 month old straight up coca cola....I advise her how stupid she is every time I see her. Not only is she setting the kid up for a weight problem, she's not taking in to the fact that NO child should be exposed to that much caffiene at such an early age.
 
while I can not claim to be the "ideal parent" I have three little ones, an 9, 8 and 4 yr old.

none of our kids like soda, why? because we never have it in our house and they do not like the "bubbles" hehe

We have kids in our neighborhood that come to our house all the time, I normally have 10 kids running around all under 10 years of age, but my neighbors kids ask me for "Soda,Pop,Coke" and I politely tell them sorry don't have any, you can have, Water, Skim milk, or some apple juice becuase normally that is all we have...the girls across the street started bringing over their own soda's to drink, and I told them, the Cans go home with them, while I won't ban them from drinking soda at my house, I know my kids think it's "yucky" especially 9 yr old girl all she likes is water and milk.

While we have "goodies" in our house, as long as they eat their breakfast, Lunch and Dinner that I make, they can have their snacks and dessert, sometimes they eat under protest, but that is fine, no dessert or snacks at night until their dinner is completely finished.

I am also a big believer in "family dinner" with the TV off, we also hold a family game night.

So far it's working my kids are straight A students, my daughter clean up in the "awards" show last year for the second grade, both kids tested extremely high in the state wide testing, and they are in great shape.

nothing wrong with a little junk as kids, they burn it faster then we can, but as long as you have that foundation of eating well, it will grow with them.
 
Good for you GA man!

I don't mean don't give them ANY junk by all means, that's like taking some of the fun of being a kid away but use it as rewards instead of the norm.

And LV...soda at 18 monts old! That's friggin' nuts!!!

I can literally remember the first time I had a soda, I was 15 and was ordering my first fast food meal and I didn't know what to get!!

My mom was the other extreme but she set the foundation for good eating habits for me. I never developed a taste for sweets or fried overly fatty foods...every now and then I'll eat something 'chocolate' but typically I don't even crave them.

Now chips...well those are my downfall LOL.
 
It really is hard to eat well when you don't have much money though. I'm not saying it's impossible, but if your working all day and you don't have time and money, a 98 cent box of sodium-loaded Hamburger Helper looks pretty good. Also fresh foods don't keep. You can buy a can of soup or a frozen pizza and keep it forever.

I'm not saying it's acceptable to give your child Cheetos for dinner, or give babies pop (which could actually be dangerous). I just wish it was easier to eat whole foods, really.

Oh, and Happy Meals...yeah, those are a SOMETIMES food! I worked at a McDonalds for three years and there were so many people who would come in with their kids EVERY DAY. Sometimes for multiple meals.

That post was kind of disjunct...sorry guys.

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I hear what you're saying kitty. But for that 99 cent box of Hamburger Helper you still have to buy the hamburger...why not buy turney meat or a slice of chicken breast instead and some fresh veggies?

You can buy chicken by the 1/2 pound and a cucumber which will cost you about 99cents? Or shop at the discount grocery stores instead of the big fancy stores.

Although like you said it's a pain in the butt shopping every few days or so because fresh food will only last you that long.
 
You're very right. It can all be done, it just takes a little effort. I guess that's the problem.
 
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