Fasting and losing weight! :-)

lecola

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Hi there.
Was wondering if anyone out there was losing weight while fasting. I am on a medically supervised fasting program in my city. It's actually called a Protein Sparing Modified Fast, which only permits protein powder shakes and soups (which they supply), skim milk, sugar free jello and other non caloric substances.

I lost 15 pounds in the first 2 weeks! I'm hoping on the next weigh in to have lost 20 lbs total for the first 3 weeks. Its a great program for me because I'm less hungry then I've ever been on any diet. Although it's a pretty difficult diet when it comes to social aspects of eating.

If anyone else is on such a diet please make yourself known. We fasters can use all the support we can get. Also would love to hear what you plan to do differently when going back to solid foods. Thanks and good luck with your program. Have a wonderful new year... I know I will! :)

Female
Start: 254 lbs
Current: 239 lbs (on last weight in)
Goal: 135-140 lbs
 
Fruit Juice Fast

Hi i started a fruit juice fast yesterday.
I did it before but my weight has jus gone up and up since i had my daughter 18 months ago. I want to wear fashionable clothes again!!!
The idea is you drink as little or as much fruit juice as you want and water. Also it is an idea to switch to water fasting for a few days now and then to speed up weight loss.
I am not doing this from a medical point of view purely to lose weight FAST!!!
So I am also allowin Diet Coke and Diet Red Bull.
On day 1 I lost 4lbs!!! GO ME!!
Day 2 now and i feel quite good was a bit hungry doing my daughters dinner this evening!!
When you go back to solids i have read to take it slow and try soup and raw fruit and veg for several days - apparantly this can cause you to lose still more weight!!! LOVE IT!!
Then my aim is to adopt a healthy eating plan, poss weight watchers?

Female

SW 257
CW 252
GW 140
:p
 
I am interested in the fasts you speak of. Do you have the name of the protein shakes and soups? We don't have that program around here.I NEED to do something about my weight. This has gone on long enough for me. Debby
 
Hey Debbyd.
the shakes/soups aren't available commercially. They're supplied by the weight loss program and I just eat what they give me along with potassium & chloride. I'm also allowed to have fat free milk, crystal light, diet soda if I want, and egg substitute.
 
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Fasting

Hi Debby um im not using any shakes or soups. I just have fresh fruit fuice for breakfast, lunch and dinner. And loads and loads of water. I'm also allowing diet drinks ( D.Coke & D.Red Bull ) cos i am not doing it for health reasons jus to lose some weight fast!
So umm good luck with the whole fasting thing.
And good luck with your weigh in lecola!! An your interview!
Nikki x
:)
 
Fasting is in no way is effective for long term FAT loss, but great for short term water loss and long term muscle loss. I understand the desire for the quick and easy, however when you gain that weight back it will make it that much harder to lose it the right way when you finally try. Something to think about.
 
Fasting = the worst way to lose weight long term.

Why?

When you fast and deprive yourself of the nutriets it needs to survive, what do you lose? Fat, Muscle, Water, etc.

You can't fast forever or you will die. So when you get back to eating like you should, you will gain all that weight back and then some. Depriving your body of nutrients is actually counter-productive to big, long-term weight loss. Not to mention it destroys your metabolism which is your body's natural means of burning calories.

Sure, as Leigh said, you will lose all that weight quickly. What happens after? you gain it all back. If you want to make a change for your life instead of a few weeks or months, then you should reconsider fasting. I'm not trying to be mean or anything, I'm simply trying to state facts so that you'll understand that fasting is NOT an effective means of longterm fat loss.
 
PSMF is actually a very proven and legit (read hardcore) diet that I would recommend to many of situations. Fasting in general is not a bright idea. Protein Sparing Modified Fast, now that is a different story. Good stuff to the original poster. ;)

For those of you who are not familiar, see Lyle Mcdonald.

Also, for those who were against fasting, especially PSMF, please realize that people who have a large amount of weight to lose, their bodies don't follow the physiological rules that you are accustomed to discussing.
 
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PSMF is actually a very proven and legit (read hardcore) diet that I would recommend to many of situations. Fasting in general is not a bright idea. Protein Sparing Modified Fast
I should learn more about this, seems as though it would be an interesting read

Also, for those who were against fasting, especially PSMF, please realize that people who have a large amount of weight to lose, their bodies don't follow the physiological rules that you are accustomed to discussing.
Sry =\ I guess I haven't made that transition in my mind yet.
 
Despite the fact that I really believe in this diet, and have already lost a good amount of weight from it, I would agree with both Merciless and Leigh P. on a couple points.

This diet IS NOT good for long term weight loss. As was mentioned, you cannot fast forever. Neither would you want to... the protein shakes are just not that tasty. :) If you do not work hard to start exercising and changing your lifestyle while you're fasting, you'll come out no better than when you started and will gain the weight back quickly. This is why my program offers nutritional and behavorial modification classes every week for the duration of the program, and I've been working damned hard in my classes.

But this is no quick and easy quick folks. I have over a hundred pounds to lose. That means I'll be on this diet for a while. My six week anniversary is tomorrow and I'll keep going for another 4-5 months. Anybody who thinks it's easy to drink chalky shakes and disgusting potassium oral solution for that length of time would be wrong. Oh, don't forget the metamucil or else you'll get constipated. Really constipated. It's no fun. But it does beat counting calories and the stress of modifying regular food portions. My eating habits were so out of control I felt it was time to take a break from real food for a while. I feel like I'm getting a fresh start.

Medically supervised fasting programs are pretty hard core. I wouldn't recommend it to just anyone, but it's definitely helping me. I started my diet on Dec 12th and have already lost 27 lbs. :)
 
The biggest problem I see with fasting is not that it's not maintainable... it's that when you reach your goal weight and stop fasting - you inevitably go back to your bad eating habits because you didn't work on building new ones. A friend of mine lost 80lbs on slimfast (which obviously isn't the same as fasting, but it's the same idea) and when she reached her goal weight she stopped using the slimfast and went back to the way she was before - ie. bingeing, eating all the unhealthy, calorie/fat laden things she wanted. She gained the 80lbs she lost (plus and extra 30lbs on top of that) back in a year.

I, personally, am on a low calorie diet (around 1000 cals per day) and i workout around 50mins per day. I realize that because this weight loss will be so quick, it won't give me time to work on gradually curbing my eating habits, but I'm ready and willing to make the necessary adjustments and sacrifices once I reach my weight loss goal.

So long as people know that reaching your goal weight won't be the only battle with fasting (ie. that there'll be a lot of learning left to do once you're there and step back OUT of the diet bubble) I think they'll be okay.
 
PSMF was not created for long term diet adherance. So, that kind of blows the comments above regarding it not being sustainable out of the water. Again, if you really want to know about the PSMF, see Lyle McDonald.
 
The biggest problem I see with fasting is not that it's not maintainable... it's that when you reach your goal weight and stop fasting - you inevitably go back to your bad eating habits because you didn't work on building new ones. A friend of mine lost 80lbs on slimfast (which obviously isn't the same as fasting, but it's the same idea) and when she reached her goal weight she stopped using the slimfast and went back to the way she was before - ie. bingeing, eating all the unhealthy, calorie/fat laden things she wanted. She gained the 80lbs she lost (plus and extra 30lbs on top of that) back in a year.

I, personally, am on a low calorie diet (around 1000 cals per day) and i workout around 50mins per day. I realize that because this weight loss will be so quick, it won't give me time to work on gradually curbing my eating habits, but I'm ready and willing to make the necessary adjustments and sacrifices once I reach my weight loss goal.

So long as people know that reaching your goal weight won't be the only battle with fasting (ie. that there'll be a lot of learning left to do once you're there and step back OUT of the diet bubble) I think they'll be okay.

What made you shoot so low, at 1000 calories?
 
I'm trying to go as low as possible without suffering for it. I'm managing to eat lots of food (fruits and vegetables) to keep me going strong. If I don't see results in a hurry I have a tendency to get discouraged (I'm quite impatient). I'd like to reach my weight loss goals by the summer (and by my birthday at the latest - Oct). I don't fully expect to be able to lose 80lbs in 4 1/2 months, but I figure I'll shoot high - that way, even if I do come up short I'll still be that much better off.

:)
 
I'm trying to go as low as possible without suffering for it. I'm managing to eat lots of food (fruits and vegetables) to keep me going strong. If I don't see results in a hurry I have a tendency to get discouraged (I'm quite impatient). I'd like to reach my weight loss goals by the summer (and by my birthday at the latest - Oct). I don't fully expect to be able to lose 80lbs in 4 1/2 months, but I figure I'll shoot high - that way, even if I do come up short I'll still be that much better off.

:)

Solid psychology, sure. But starvation is not the answer to long term success.
 
1000 cals

I have to agree with Steve, from my limited knowledge of healthy dieting I believe the lowest recommended amount of calories is 1200 for a woman and 1500 for a man. I have not heard of the PSMF method before - is it medically sound? Congratulations on the 16.5lbs you have already lost wimic. Just be careful you are getting enough food and nutrients - you are working your body hard and taking the calories really low. Good luck! :)
 
I have to agree with Steve, from my limited knowledge of healthy dieting I believe the lowest recommended amount of calories is 1200 for a woman and 1500 for a man. I have not heard of the PSMF method before - is it medically sound? Congratulations on the 16.5lbs you have already lost wimic. Just be careful you are getting enough food and nutrients - you are working your body hard and taking the calories really low. Good luck! :)

Medically sound? I would use it on myself. As long as you get adequate essential aminos and essential fats in, as well as all the other good micronutrients from things like veggies, I think any diet is ok. Remember, there is no such thing as an essential carbohydrate. ;)
 
Fasting, just as with anything else, can be good or bad, depending on how it is done.

I belong to an Intermittent fasting group. Some fast/eat alternate days. Some (including me) fast for 20 hours of the day and eat during the remaining 4.

My program includes 1350-1550 calories --what I calculate my goal weight maintenance calories will be. I am currently 183 and my goal weight is 109.

My daily food intake is comprised of whole grains, fresh fruits, vegetables, low-fat dairy, and very little meat.

I find it extremely easy to follow. If I spread my 1350-1550 calories out among 5-6 meals/snacks, I am always hungry, always pre-occupied with food, always looking for what I can eat to not go over my limit. I have a voracious appetite. I did alternate day fasting for awhile, but I had hunger for about 4 hours on the fast day, and I was always cold on the fast day. Then on the eat day, I consumed twice the normal calorie range as planned, but I was always pre-occupied with food, and eating throughout the day. I decided to try to the 20/4 method, and it has worked very well for me.

Whereas I was always hungry spreading my calorie budget out through the day, I reach satiation by consuming it in one 4 hour period. I don't have hunger during the 20 hours until about an hour before it's time to eat again, and then it's mild hunger. My stress eating has stopped, as have my cravings. My food tastes have changed dramatically.

I don't eat all my calories in one sitting, but in 5-6 courses. I take anywhere from 2-4 hours to consume all of my food, so the courses are pretty close together.

1st course is whole grains, and I use steel-cut oats or a multi-grain with brown sugar and 2% milk. Sometimes I add raisins or bananas to the cereal.

2nd course is fresh fruit, usually citrus, oranges or tangerines or both.

3rd course is a commercially prepared soup, usually Healthy Choice, and California Black Bread (it's actually pure 100% whole wheat bread) with 1 tbsp peanut butter.

4th course is more fruit, usually a large organic Fuji apple.

5th course consists of more vegetables plus a sandwich of 1 slice Cal Black Bread and an omega 3 organic egg fried in 0 calorie Spam. If I am going to have meat, it's usually turkey meatloaf or thin-sliced roast turkey instead of the egg.

6th course is dessert and usually consists of low-fat yogurt (I prefer the Cascade brand, as it is sweetened with fruit juice and has 7 active cultures), grapes, and perhaps a cheese stick.

This is not a short-term diet for me -- but a chosen lifestyle. Since I am using my goal weight maintenance calories as my current daily intake, I expect to lose the weight slowly and do not anticipate having to make any changes in my diet once I do reach goal weight. Also, I anticipate that my body may reach a couple a set-point higher than my goal, but that is okay.

During the 20 hour fast period, I consume only water. I have excellent energy throughout the day, and I do have a exercise program that includes cardio and weights.

If you want to do some research on the subject, just google intermittent fasting. It's based on the calorie restriction research that shows that restricting calories activates the longevity genes and produces other health benefits that reduce diseases typically associated with aging. The studies included mice that were fed regularly, mice that were fed reduced calorie diets, and mice that were fed intermittently but allowed to eat whatever they wanted. The results were very good for the intermittent fed mice. Several in our group just eat what they want for their feeding periods, but they are men. If I ad lib eat, I will maintain, but I will not lose. So, I restrict my calories to my goal-weight maintenance calories. It's a matter of training myself and allowing myself more time for my food preferences to permanently change.

As far as gaining the weight back, well, no matter what program I follow, if I go back to my old ways of eating, I will gain the weight back. So will anyone.
 
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