Sport Doctors nutrition knowledge?

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This question has been eating me up, and i don't know why i haven't asked this yet. I went to the doctors a while back(he wasen't my normal doctor, and he was a total dick), so i was chatting w/ him and he brought up the subject about if i drink 2 glasses of milk or not a day. I wish at the time i knew more about nutrition than i do now because i would of been as big of a smart ass as he was being to me. Anyways, i answered no and he said o so i guess you're eating at least 5 blocks of cheese, and he kept listing on stuff that it would take to equal the amount of calcium in milk. anyways, my question is how much do doctors truely know about nutrition. it seems to me that the stuff they know is old data that has been proven false. also, my friend said his doctor said not to consume protein shakes due to the stress it puts on your kidneys, but i read on here that it's ok if you're drinking enough water.

Pat
 
Yeah, I think a lot of the nutrition stuff they learn about is, depending on the field the doctor is in, geared more towards people trying to maintain health, and people who are sick. Some of the doctors I've talked to said the same thing about kidneys and protein. Bull.
 
I'n my opinion, doctors know very little about nutrition. They know about foods that can effect health and cause problems but aside from that they are usually pretty old school.
To add to that. I had a blood test done a while back to check my liver and cholesterol and the doc said that if my cholesterol rises, I should try eatting less fat and carbs and stick to fruit.
"there are calories in fruit" I said
"No its just fruit" he said
"How come its so sweet then?"
"natural sugar" he said
"exactly, sugar is carbohydrate"
"yeah but there are no calories in natural sugar"

I stood up and said
"you dont know what your talking about"
and walked out.
 
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Some docs say the same thing about lifting heavy...how it's dangerous and ****. Well, you're probably going to get injured at some point when lifting a heavy weight on a regular basis...but that doesn't mean you shouldn't do it. And aside from those several times out of 1000 training sessions, they're just referring to the potential of danger. There's a big difference, doc. *heads to squat rack*
 
I've trained some doctors that knew less than the average housewife who got her knowledge of fitness/nutrition from the latest issue of Women'sDay, so what's that tell you.

At least, though, they sat across the table and acted like they needed to learn something, rather than maintaining the role of "expert" that they are accustomed to.
 
I'd suggest that many of today's doctors were trained with the idea that they are damage control, rather than health maintainers. Generally when someone comes to a doctor they need some form of treatment for whatever ails them. Preventive medicine seems to be a more recent focus, and one that certainly bears more scrutiny. Past that, you'll have people (as with any career) that are content with doing what they've always done and known and others who are always reading up and learning and putting that knowledge into practice. The key is to find the latter sort of person and not the former.
 
stingo said:
Generally when someone comes to a doctor they need some form of treatment for whatever ails them. Preventive medicine seems to be a more recent focus, and one that certainly bears more scrutiny. QUOTE]


What do you mean by this? How are todays doctors trying to prevent medical issues? Could you give an example?

~Nicole
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Taking myself as an example - I have diabetes, in the old model a doctor could prescribe a pill and tell me to lose weight (but not say how). In the new model, a doctor would still prescribe the medication, but also provide me with a diet/food plan to follow or suggest seeing a nutritionist for one. She'd/He'd also suggest various forms of exercise that would be beneficial for me for not just for this disease but holistically. (It's interesting to note that insurance companies are waking up to the fact that preventive medicine is a good thing, so things formerly not covered, like nutritionists, have been pulled into the ranks.) And apart from that, how many "healthy" people see a doctor? (Why do I need to see a doctor, I'm not sick!) :)
 
Derwyddon said:
As someone studying to be a doctor....

They dont' really teach you **** about it. You learn how it effects certain things (aka, may cause symptoms, things not to eat if your experiencing x, etc..) but they dont teach you about actual nutrition for the healthy individual.

And the thing about kidneys... too much protien is hard on your kidneys if you have an existing kidney problem. If you have healthy kidneys its fine.
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That's my assessment too, and its backed up by the fact that you have Dieticians who do 4 years of schooling to know details about food.

Doctors just need to know the basics, and some specifics on certain foods that might affect certain conditions (sugar & diebeties for example)

Doctors regularly tell people that creatine is a steroid and that more than 60g a day of protein will destroy your liver, kidneys and colon.
 
Im often flabbergasted about how little people know about the area they work with and healthcare isnt any different.. was at a physiotherapist a little while ago for my back and I had to explain to her the function of M. iliopsoas since she didnt know... yea.. its only the cause of like 20% of all back problems you ignorant.........

as for doctors it differs a LOT I would say but a general practitioner doesnt have deep knowledge about anything obviously but more of a general idea about everything
 
I have a couple buddies who instead of taking the regular program for pre-med, took Exercise Physiology instead. I wish all docs would, with a second in Major in Nutrition! It is true about the protein though, anything in excess will take a toll on your liver... Now, if we have to compare the protein to all the drugs they give us, I'd take 4 times my alloted protein daily instead!

I also had to change docs because mine was an idiot. You know, Watch the cholesterol in your diet types (hello, don't you mean the Saturated fat??? And how bad can my diet be if I have a 70 HDL??). OH, then there was the time when I went in and got a prescription and when I asked if I could take it pregnant she said "You didn't tell me you were pregnant!" And I said, "No, you told ME... last time I was here?" What are they reading when they walk into the room if it is not your history???
Then there was the time I called in saying my heart rate was 250 and when should I begin to worry... never did get a call back... That was the one that pretty much did it for me, switched to a PPO plan and never looked back.
 
Doctors (in general) are nothing more then "pushers" for drug company's. They learn about a sickness, they learn about a drug that treats the sickness, then they prescribe you the drug.

They have such a limited view on health,

I had a friend who for quite some time had Many skin related problems and for months she did nothing but do as the doctors said, and had drug after drug after drug used on her. She was hospitalized 2 times in a 3 month time frame because of reactions to the drugs the doctors were "guessing" would help her. finally one day after allot of money and time spent on medication, she asked me what do i think it could be. I told her you have a Biotin Deficiency, After i told her what i thought she told the doctors and they laughed at her.

Well finally she went off the drugs and got on a strict biotin supplementation regimen and cured. However now because of the needless medications she now suffers from a completely different condition that has no cure, that i will not mention.

He has been a doctor a year now and has had two patients, no, three, I think -- yes, it was three; I attended their funerals. - Mark Twain.
 
LOL, Silent, excellent use of a quote!
 
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