Weight-Loss Diet and Vitamins: Too Much?

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newborn1

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I am going to start taking these vitamins. I need to know if they are safe. I am a type 2 diabetic (controlled) and in a strict low carb diet and cardio and weight training exercise plan right now. Tell me any comments you may have please.

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For short term I am going to use as an energy and weight loss combo:

Taurine, Guarana, and Yerba Mate

As long term health improving herb:

Green Tea, Black Tea, and White Tea

As long term vitamin and minerals:

Century Formula (15 essential vitamins and minerals including B -Complex)

As long term for digestive improvements and well being:

Tri-Fiber Complex (psyllium powder, oat bran and apple pectin powder)
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I did some extensive research on these to come up with this plan, but now I am stumped on one concept. They say that the teas and the yerba mate has its own vitamins and minerals, don't know what they mean exactly but will that be bad if I already take the multivitamin Century Formula?

I read that yerba mate contains:

Vitamins: A, C, E, B1, B2, Niacin (B3), B5, B Complex
Minerals: Calcium, Manganese, Iron, Selenium, Potassium, Magnesium, Phosphorus
Additional Compounds: Fatty Acids, Chlorophyll, Flavonols, Polyphenols, Trace Minerals, Antioxidants, Pantothenic Acid and 15 Amino Acids.

My Century Formula has this:

15 essential vitamins and minerals, including the entire B-complex.

Any comments please. Should I omit any of the above, rotate in days, etc? Please help, I purchased them already and well if I can't use some, too bad. I want to burn fat of my lower stomach and if weight comes off, great, if not fine.

newborn
 
It's fine...but cut the taurine and guarana. It isn't healthy.

Michael
 
Taurine and Guarana isn't healthy, in what way. Guarana is mainly caffeine and Taurine has other uses . I am using Taurine and Guarana as a one dose before going to the gym to get energy boost. I am drinking a rockstar zero carb drink right now before the gym and it has 240 mg of caffeine so I am used to it.

So far my plan is this:
After Breakfast: Century Formula + Green\Black\White Tea + Tri-Fiber

After Lunch (Before Gym): Yerba Mate + Taurine + Guarana

After Dinner: Green\Black\White Tea + Tri-Fiber

newborn
 
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If some supplements say, take 2 caplets twice a day which equals 4 total. Can I make it 3 daily instead which is with each meal during the day and meaning that the dosage is decreased by 1.

newborn
 
Hi Newborn and welcome to the forums!

Being that you're a Type II diabetic, your personal physician is the best person to answer your questions regarding any supplements you wish to add to your daily routine.

Only your physician has the knowledge to advise you with regard to your specific medical history and conditions.
 
Thanks for the reply though.....Don't think you and me live in the same world, my physician says no to any vitamins and herb supplements and so do other doctors around here. They tend to want you to take only medication they move (promote) around their office. Any supplement that will help you is a "no no" to them i.e. cinnamon controls diabetes yet if you tell them you want to take it, they say "no". Anyways, this supplements are of my choice not his. I was asking a simple question about labels and changing the daily routine they specify. Remember, "a doctor is just there to help you not control you"

newborn
 
if you are on medication, do be careful with any supplements you might be taking - there are many that are known to interfere with some medication..
 
Don't think you and me live in the same world, my physician says no to any vitamins and herb supplements and so do other doctors around here. They tend to want you to take only medication they move (promote) around their office. Any supplement that will help you is a "no no" to them i.e. cinnamon controls diabetes yet if you tell them you want to take it, they say "no".
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Jesus christ, that is the most cynical view of doctors that I have ever heard. Apparently we don't live in the same world. Doctors do work to make money, but I don't sit at a computer for 12 hours a day plugging away at code out of the goodness of my heart either. Casually discarding the advice of a medical professional in regards to your life threatening disorder because you think that they're out to "get you" isn't super intelligent.

Good luck controlling your T2 with cinnamon, though.
 
First off, my doctor screwed up my liver using me as a test subject for three medications to lower my cholesterol. I am now on my four medication for cholesterol and its working great. My doctor now has to let my liver fix up. Anyways besides the point, I never said I was using cinnamon to control my diabetes. I am a well controlled diabetic. I was on insulin before but now off it thanks to my workout and diet routine. I got off the insulin myself and just called the doc one day and told him, "I am off the insulin and I am not going to go back on it". He approved and now I don't have to worry about gaining weight due to the insulin.

I did research on those supplements and first of all, the century formula is generally proven to be the exact amount of each vitamin that diabetics need each day . The teas are anti-oxidants, the guarana is nothing but caffeine (found in most sport power drinks), the taurine is an amino acid that we lack when exercising (found in most sport power drinks as well), and the tri-fiber complex is three natural fibers for comprehensive digestive system health.

Like anything else, if I start feeling a bad effect, of course I will stop. Thanks for the comments!

newborn
 
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Good luck controlling your T2 with cinnamon, though.
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It actually has quite a backing. I know of more than one person with T2 who swear by it. Along with simple diet and exercise they seem to do well with the cinnamon.








Of course, there is conflicting information.




Anyway, There you have a few research studies that I have saved on the matter. I
just wanted to give some research from both sides.

Its likely that cinnamon does in fact have beneficial properties when it comes to blood glucose levels. To what extent? Not sure, it really depends on dosages and the individuals lifestyle, genetics, and severity of the condition.
 
cinnamon controls diabetes
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Its likely that cinnamon does in fact have beneficial properties when it comes to blood glucose levels.
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Those are two vastly different statements. Reading that cinnamon may have a beneficial effect on your diabetes is different than writing a doctor off because what you wish to take is not a controlled substance, and he is not making money off of you taking it. I can think of plenty of combinations of things to take that are terrible for you, where one substance is controlled, and another isn't. Maybe high levels of whatever cinnamon has in it somehow negatively effects whatever medication the doctor has her on.

We don't know, but I don't think you'll find any research articles that say ignoring your doctor's advice, and instead going off of the advice of anonymous people on the internet yields a more positive result than just listening to your money-hungry MD.

I got off the insulin
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That's amazing that you are on the right track. I can't tell you how sincerely happy that makes me. I've seen T2 diabetics suffering through various stages of the disease because they just didn't care, and I've seen those that take it as a big swift kick in the ass, and get their life in check, and are on top of things, and they lead normal lives. As insane as disregarding your MD's advice is to me, I am happy that you are headed in the right direction.
 
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We don't know, but I don't think you'll find any research articles that say ignoring your doctor's advice, and instead going off of the advice of anonymous people on the internet yields a more positive result than just listening to your money-hungry MD.
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I'm not advocating dismissing a doctors advise, as I hope you know. I'm simply showing a few research studies.

Were understood correctly?
 
If you dont need extra vitamins, you really should try to get them only by food. Some vitamins (A,E,D,K) are toxic when taken at larger doses, and even if your liver can do the job, you're giving it more work and thats unecessary. Commonly, supplements have high doses, I find them useless in a normal lifestyle, of course when you're working very hard or trainning very hard or sick, you need more vitamins because of the oxidative stress.
But at a normal lyfestyle, I would say your liver has already work enough trying to keep your homeostases due to your pathology.

I just read you have liver problems... so now I ask: with all that stuff, are you trying to ruin what is left of it?
 
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Hah, no, Trevor, I understood you. As usual, though, our argument trains are running parallel to eachother, about 50 miles apart... and we are destined never to meet.

I wasn't arguing that cinnamon might not help out diabetes in the least. My whole point was just spotlighting the absurdity of 1) ignoring an MD's advice, and 2) instead turning to randoms on the net.

Plus I'm crabby as balls now 'cause my hamstring has been twitching nonstop for the past 10 hours, and I didn't want anyone that was impressionable to go out and drop their diabetes medicine in favor of just cinnamon 'cause they read it somewhere without someone sharply rebutting the idea.
 
Ianthe you say you don't need them in a normal lifestyle, but what if you are exercising extremely every day? I read everywhere, at least for the teas (green, black, white, yerba mate) that they are good antioxidants and that fiber helps the liver avoid toxins to redirect to it. I agree maybe I didn't need the vitamins though. I am not eating a lot like I used too, extreme low carb low calorie diet and I may not be getting all my vitamins like before.

newborn
 
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I am not eating a lot like I used too, extreme low carb low calorie diet and I may not be getting all my vitamins like before.

newborn
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hummm I wouldnt say you'll have a vitamin problem with that. But this weekend is my "diabetes weekend", I have a clinic case about it next thrusday so I have to study like hell, but if I find something about special vitaminic needs in your case, I'll come here and tell you, ok?
 
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hummm I wouldnt say you'll have a vitamin problem with that. But this weekend is my "diabetes weekend", I have an clinic case about it next thrusday so I have to study like hell, but if I find something about special vitaminic needs in your case, I'll come here and tell you, ok?
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Not to be a jerk, Ianthe, but what sort of training have you had? Are you a MD? Are you in medical school? Are you in college?
 
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Not to be a jerk, Ianthe, but what sort of training have you had? Are you a MD? Are you in medical school? Are you in college?
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Oh you're not such thing! I'm in college. Don't be afraid to be hard on me or question me! I'm learning, I don't know everything and surely I can be wrong. I'm just trying to help here with the little I know for now =)
 
I am not eating a lot like I used too, extreme low carb low calorie diet and I may not be getting all my vitamins like before.
newborn
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hummm I wouldnt say you'll have a vitamin problem with that.
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Shouldn't you see his typical meal plan before you come to that conclusion?

Its not untypical of "low carbers" to nearly cut out all fruits and veggies. In such a case, a "vitamin problem" could very well occur.
 
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