Detox weight loss diet

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Hi, has anybody heard or tried the detox weight loss diet? heard that you can lose 10 pounds in a week. care to share? saw some info on the regime here SPAM
 
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Losing 10 lbs in a week is about as pointless as it gets. I can lose 10 lbs in a day by manipulating fluids and such but what good does that get me in terms of fat loss and lasting change that can be maintained and enjoyed for life?

Stop looking for the quick fix and start constructing a plan of action you can live with for life b/c that's what it takes if you're going to maintain any of your achievements in this "game."
 
I am on day 7 of Master Cleanse and have lost 10 lbs so far. I am doing it for many reasons, detox, health, control and weight loss.

I do understand that some of the loss is water weight and that it will come back. The average caloric intake is about 1200 per day for me so some is actual weight loss as well.

I have researched the cleanse well before I started adn it makes sense to me. there is a good site for support if you plan to do it. Many people have opinions but most have not done the research.

I must say that I feel better than I have felt in a very long time and I thank the cleanse for that.

I have always had weight issues and have been on many diets. I used to smoke to and tried to cut down many times. 4 years ago I quit cold turkey and have not started again.

Mu hubby siad once that food issues are much harder to control that smoking because you always have to eat, you just have to constatly make the right choices. With MC I dont have to make the choices. Food no longer controls me since I dont eat. I hope that I am proving to myself that I am in control and when I come off the cleanse I will exercise that control.

I originally planned to do MC for 10 days , now I may extend to 20.

After the cleanse I plan to follow the Gabriel Method .

Feel free to ask any questions.
 
I've gotten flack for being a lil too hard, but in this case it's important. For all the reasons steve listed, please completely ignore the person above me. anyone recommending starving and cleansing should not be taken seriously. it's completely unhealthy and unnecessary. Your body already has cleansing mechanisms in place. it's called your liver. doing a detox or cleanse diet is an exercise in pointlessness. you body already has it handled. The only thing that will be accomplished by cleansing is a ton of water and muscle loss with a reduction in your bodies metabolism. Basically everything you don't want to have happen. Educate yourself about healthy food choices and eat them, voila, all the detox you need.
 
Jynus,
perhaps you may want to read my post again. As Steve said the weight loss of a cleanse will not be sustainable if lessons have not been learned.

I took the time to explain my game plan after the cleanse and how I intend to deal with the food issues and how the cleanse has helped me both physically and mentally.

I am not recommending cleansing ,the OP asked about it and I happen to be doing it. It is right for me and many others but may not be right for everyone. I was giving him my first hand experience.

Its great that you have all the answers, everyone just has to follow your instruction and we can close down this whole site :svengo:

As I said I feel great and I love the MC:party:
 
my point still stands. it's not right for you. its not right for anyone. This is not me acting like I know everything. This has everything do with with the entire scientific and medical community saying the starvation based detox diets are unhealthy, bad, pointless, etc etc etc. there is nothing to debate about this, it's simply fact. You're fooled if you think otherwise. Feel free to look at _any_ medical resources and they will say the same thing.
 
I agree 100% with Jynus. Doing the Master Cleanse for 20 days is stupid and dangerous. There ... it's blunt and I'm sure you'll say it's rude, but it's the truth.

You say you've "done your research" on detoxes, but if you've actually researched them via reputable medical sites, you'll see that there is no proof that a "detox" is beneficial and quite a bit of data that suggests it might be damaging to your health by disrupting the beneficial bacteria in your digestive system (not to mention starving your body of nutrition).
 
Oh I just noticed this:

The average caloric intake is about 1200 per day for me so some is actual weight loss as well.
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If you're taking in 1200 calories per day, then you're not doing the Master Cleanse. And yes, I have gotten the book - the original book - and I know what I'm talking about. I don't believe in speaking out against something unless I've done some serious research on it.

So perhaps you could explain where your 1200 calories a day are coming from and what exact diet you ARE doing, before you tell someone to do a diet that you're NOT.
 
KaraCooks,

No I dont think you are rude. I did read those sites and might be's. I do understand about the bacteria in my system. I landed in hospital for two weeks years ago when Dr's gave me such a high does of antibiotics I got C-Dificile. It took 5 Dr's to find out that is what I had..and from a prescription no less.

I have a Dr (not the same one who made me so sick) who knows about the cleanse and supports it. I like to get my information from more than the internet when it comes to my health.


All the best !
 
12 glasses of lemonade is my average. It is about 100 claories per glass from the maple syrup and lemon. Find the page in the book where you can drink more of the lemonande if you need to, it's there :)

I assure you I am doing the Master Cleanse. This is day 7 of no food. Nothing but the lemonade, senna tea at night and salt water flush in the am.


What did your Dr say about the cleanse or is it all internet knowledge ?

To each his own I say. To some I may be taking chances. Some also say that to people who have had bariatric surgery or diet pills. There are actual deaths (not just "might be's) and health concerns with these proceedures.

Even if they are not my choice I will not judge people for the choices they have made to gain control, whatever the cost to them.

I would also NEVER impune their voracity with nothing to back me up.

Nice to find a friendly supportive site.
 
pickles,
I see your plan is to go with the Gabriel Method. I see it advertised on this site. can you just give a brief description on the principles of that diet? I dont know much about it. I'm at work and get on that site.

Also, i dont agree with what you are doing BUT i wish everyone could lose the weight they want to and feel good about it. I hope you can learn/use a new healthy lifestyle to reach your goals. I often say losing weight can sometimes be the easy part, it's just maintaining it long term. Hopefully after you do this cleanse you continue to do what you plan.

Start a diary and keep us posted. I'm curious to see how everything goes.


good luck.
 
What did your Dr say about the cleanse or is it all internet knowledge ?
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My doctor agrees with me that "cleanses" and "detoxes" are garbage.

And by the way using the phrase "internet knowledge" is a red herring argument. One should not believe everything on the Internet, I agree. But just because you find documentation on the Internet doesn't make it bad. You have to check the sources of the articles you read. I rely on information from reputable sources like the Mayo Clinic, the American Journal of Medicine, and so forth.

Here's an article from the Mayo Clinic on cleanses. I'm sure you'll agree with me that the Mayo Clinic is a reputable source.
Colon cleansing: Is it helpful or harmful? - MayoClinic.com
While there is little scientific evidence to support or refute the benefits of colon cleansing, critics say it's generally unnecessary and at times may even be harmful. Although doctors prescribe colon cleansing as preparation for medical procedures such as colonoscopy, most don't recommend it for detoxification. Their reasoning is simple: The digestive system and bowel naturally eliminate waste material and bacteria — your body doesn't need enemas or special diets or pills to do this.
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Here's another Mayo Clinic article on detoxing:
Detox diets: Do they offer any health benefits? - MayoClinic.com
There is no evidence, however, that detox diets actually remove toxins from the body. Most ingested toxins are efficiently and effectively removed by the kidneys and liver and excreted in urine and stool.
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Here is a WebMD article. I'm sure you'll agree that WebMD is more than just "Internet knowledge" and that a doctor from Cedars-Sinai is a reputable source, right?
Detox Diets: Purging The Myths
But the science behind the detox theory is deeply flawed, says Peter Pressman, MD, an internal medicine specialist at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles. The body already has multiple systems in place -- including the liver, kidneys, and gastrointestinal tract -- that do a perfectly good job of eliminating toxins from the body within hours of consumption.

"There's no evidence at all that any of these approaches augment the body's own mechanisms," Pressman tells WebMD.
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Here's an MSNBC article that quotes reputable sources:
Experts warn of detox diet dangers - Chew On This- msnbc.com
“Long-term fasts lead to muscle breakdown and a shortage of many needed nutrients,” says Lona Sandon, a Dallas dietitian and spokesperson for the American Dietetic Association. Depriving the body of the vitamins and minerals we get from food can "actually weaken the body’s ability to fight infections and inflammation,” she says.
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Here's an article that quotes multiple medical professionals from the UK, denouncing detox and cleanse diets. Here are two of about a dozen comments:
Sense About Science | Detox press release
“‘Detox’ is a meaningless term that is used all the time. And because it hasn’t been defined, it’s impossible to say if it’s worked or if it hasn’t.”
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“The body’s own detoxification systems are remarkably sophisticated and versatile. They have to be, as the natural environment that we evolved in is hostile. It is remarkable that people are prepared to risk seriously disrupting these systems with unproven ‘detox’ diets, which could well do more harm than good.”
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I could continue citing reputable sources and articles for another 3 or 4 pages - I have many of them bookmarked because I've had this discussion before with people.

Now if you can show me equally reputable sources - MEDICAL sources - that quantify and define exactly what "toxins" are being purged and how it is beneficial and can cite studies to back it up, then I'll be happy to read them with an open mind. But as of right now, no such study has ever been performed and no one has ever quantified or defined what they mean by "toxin" other than as a phrase to scare people.
 
usedtobefatmatt,

Thanks for the good wishes. It was actually on this site that I saw the ad for the Gabriel Method amd my mind immidiately thought...dont believe it. I did do some searches for opinios and read enough positive opinions to peak my interest so I ordered the book.

Basics are (and I have only read it quickly once..it made me want to hurry through and see the secrets) first it talks about why we are fat (mental,emotional,fat programs).

The fat program was an eye opener to me. It gives his theory that our bodies fat set point has gotten set to high. The book tells you how to reset that.

He also talks about eating anything you want but gets you wanting the right things that actually feed your cells. Toxins and fat are in the book too.

Something he wrote really stuck with me. People without a weight problem think it is easy to just eat less. For someone with issues it is like saying breath less. We are not failures. If we feed our bodies wrong no matter how much we eat (to the point of being seriously overweight) we are actually starving so we keep eating.

I know I have not done the book justice in my brief overview (sorry Mr Gabriel). He did say too that if diets worked there would only need to be one of them .

How did you do it since you are usedtobefatmatt ?
 
pickles said:
How did you do it since you are usedtobefatmatt ?
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diet and exercise. I counted calories and ate around 1800-1900 per day. Looking back that was probably too low. I lost a lot of muscle and looked skinny and drawn. I lost a total of 150lbs.

If you feel this is your best method then best of luck to you. Like i said stick around let us know a little more about you and keep us posted.

Matt
 
Matt,

You must be thrilled. What an accomplishment ! Don't question what you did now..revel in the fact you did it. How you did it must have helped you keep your motivation.

I will take your good luck, thanks ! I must say that I feel stronger than I have ever felt in my life. I actually feel that I now control food that food does not control me. From the person who could not say no to 1 meal to saying no for 7 days of eating.

I plan (I dont want to use the work hope..it is weak and open for failure and I dont want to go down that road again) to use this new found power to make the right choices when I choose to eat again.

I will start a new post with how I am making out and thanks for the invite :)
 
Have to lose a lot. 100 lbs. mabey even 120.

I will start a new thread.Thanks
 
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