Weight-Loss calories vs quality. what matters?

Weight-Loss

Monk21

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*numbers in this post are hypothetical just for the sake of argument
** I am not an expert whatsoever

Hello all!

I just have a question that troubles me for years and I am curious if any experts and/ or knowledgeable people can help.

Are calories all that's important? For example, consuming everyday 1500 calories of macdonalds junk food will give me the same results in weight loss to consuming 1500 calories in fruits and vegetables?

Many people say yes, calories are calories. Others say that the quality of what you eat is more important. I mean I don't kbow anyone that is fat because he eats too many apples. Do you?

Very confused. Help!
 
NO NO NO
If you are only concerned about weight loss, there is SOME validity to only worrying about total calories .

But it is not technically that simple.

The body does not process proteins, carbs and fats the same way.
Those macronutrients follow different metabolic pathways and of course other issues come into play ........... blood sugar levels, kidney and liver functions, fueling muscles and organ tissues, etc...

I will use 2 extreme examples to demonstrate it is not as simple as just total calories.

Eat spicy grilled chicken breast, green beans, oatmeal and later a lean cut of meat.

Now grab a container of white sugar and a scoop and simply eat as much sugar as needed to match the same calories as the first option.

What do you think is going to go on inside your body ?

Simply follow the proper logic and science of eating and that is all that is needed to be on the right track.

Michael Spitzer - Author - FITNESS at 40,50,60 and BEYOND
 
Guys I am very confused. let's say I have 3 situations.
* My calorie intake should be at around 2000 calories in order to lose weight.


A) I drink all day ONLY orange juice. NOTHING else. 20 glasses of it = 2400 calories

B) I eat 19 salmon fillets. NOTHING else. = 2400 calories

C) I eat 6 double cheeseburgers from McDonalds = 2400 calories

Will I gain weight in all 3 situations? PLEASE HELP!
 
Calories and Satiety

This post ran long, so here's the tl;dr:

(1) A Calorie Is A Calorie: You gain or lose based on how many calories you consume minus how many you use.
(2) Satiety Matters: It's easier to be satisfied with fewer calories of some foods (ex., vegetables) than others (ex., potato chips).


A Calorie Is A Calorie

According to this study , Comparison of Weight-Loss Diets with Different Compositions of Fat, Protein, and Carbohydrates, the answer is yes.

The study enlisted 800 people to go on various kinds of diets and tracked them for two years. Their conclusion: "Reduced-calorie diets result in clinically meaningful weight loss regardless of which macronutrients they emphasize."

The idea is often expressed as "a calorie is a calorie": For the purpose of gaining or losing weight what matters is calories consumed minus calories used. Your orange juice calories will make you fat just like your cheeseburger or salmon calories will.


Satiety Matters

A related question that often comes up when trying to lose weight is, "If I'm going to limit myself to a certain number of calories per day, what foods should I eat to make that as easy as possible (i.e., to keep me from getting too hungry)?" This is the question of satiety.

A recent study, , Changes in Diet and Lifestyle and Long- Term Weight Gain in Women and Men, took data from 120,000 (yes, one-hundred-twenty thousand!) U.S. men and woman over a period of 20 years. The subjects were just living normally. They were not given any instructions on how to eat or exercise.

The study looked at how various factors were correlated to changes in the subjects' weight. Figure 1 in the paper shows that consumption of some foods is associated weight gain and some with weight loss.

Gain: potato chips, fries, processed meat, red meat, butter
Lose: yogurt, fruit, whole grains, nuts, vegetables

There was no controlling for total calorie intake. They just observed that when people ate more of the foods on the "Gain" list they gained weight and when they ate more of the foods on the "Lose" list they lost weight.

They hypothesize (consistently with other studies) that "consumption of starches and refined grains may be less satiating, increasing subsequent hunger signals and total caloric intake". Also, they say "Higher fiber content and slower digestion of these foods would augment satiety, and their increased consumption would also displace other, more highly processed foods in the diet, providing plausible biologic mechanisms whereby persons who eat more fruits, nuts, vegetables, and whole grains would gain less weight over time."


Dave
 
Monk 21

This was answered above

2400 calories is "almost" the same in terms of energy
But NO ....... a "calorie is not a calorie"

For example ......... your all juice diet would be mostly simple sugars
This spikes insulin levels, this triggers greater retention of unused calories as bodyfat
Also you will probably increase the risk of Type II Diabetes with time feeding your body in this way.

Now the same 2400 calories as lean protein.
Protein requires more calorie expenditure just for simple digestion as compared to fats or carbs
Also no blood sugar spikes.

So "roughly speaking" ... a calorie is a calorie ......... and this simple statement is perhaps 80% accurate in everyday life.

But technically, NO they are not all the same.

But for the average person eating a variety of foods everyday - they don't need to give it that much nit-picky thought.

Focus on a lean protein/complex carb diet as the mainstay of your diet
Avoid frequent simple sugars and empty carb foods.

Do some resistance training and cardio 3-4 times per week

And things will take care of themselves

Michael Spitzer - Author - Fitness at 40,50,60 and Beyond
 
there is a different in quality when it comes to calories. The reason is they get stored in your body differently and used differently for energy. Not only that I highly doubt someone can take in 1500 cals of vegetables as easy as they can a mcdonalds value meal. That is the main reason vegetables are so great. They are nutritious and calorie dense. You can only take some much in before feeling full.
 
absolutely not
quality of food matters, it influence many things that directly and indirectly got impact over your weight loss process and body health state
1. vitamins+minerals
2. blood pressure levels
3. digest process
4. fat in the blood
5. fluents leves
6. hunger feeling/ feeling full
7. exhausted/ energetic
 
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