Sport Breakfast Protein

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I always thought protein first thing in the morning is important and i always make sure i get protein when i wake up. (I make sure i get plenty with every meal) I met two different people in my gym that said they only eat fruit and carbs for breakfast cause their body is finished recovering during last nights sleep and they arent working out again till the afternoon. I'm not sure i understand their reasoning. Do you make sure you eat protein with breakfast?
 
absolutely! you need protein in the diet for more than just recovery. That'd be like saying "you only need gas in your car if you're going uphill".

Carbs in the morning aren't bad either, to give energy for the day. oatmeal is a great choice, with some eggs.
 
you don't exactly need protein in the morning because what you really want to be doing is preparing your body for the day ahead. to do this you actually need glucose and glycogen which is formed from carbs. protein can be formed to glucose if there is already enough in your system but it can also be pissed out because your body doesn't need it as well. so if you find that your pee is not clear during morning then its because of the protein.

i'm not saying you don't need protein, i'm saying that if you think that protein in the morning is better then carbs this is wrong. because carbs is energy not protein. you should have a meal that consist of both because you really do need both.

the reason why your friends say that they eat fruit and carbs in the morning is because it's energy for the day which is right. however they should also eat protein aswell because protein is needed then just for recovery.
 
to keep it simple, carbohydrate is used as fuel and protein is the building block for muscle. this means that without protein your body can't repair.
 
o and also make sure you don't have too much of a high protein diet cause this can cause some serious damaged to your kidney. causes kidney scarring in the long run. if you find that your peeing a lot it is cause of the high protein diet so make sure you drink plenty of fluids to help your kidney flush the nitrogen out. more nitrogen in the body is caused from protein and is a toxic that the body needs to excrete through urine. the reason why your kidney will have strain upon it is because the nitrogen builds up in the kidney and because of all the peeing you do, less fluid is able to help the nitrogen be removed. don't have to **** yourself over this, I'm just giving you the heads up.
keep it 40/40 and 20% fat in your daily diet.
 
o and also make sure you don't have too much of a high protein diet cause this can cause some serious damaged to your kidney. causes kidney scarring in the long run. if you find that your peeing a lot it is cause of the high protein diet so make sure you drink plenty of fluids to help your kidney flush the nitrogen out. more nitrogen in the body is caused from protein and is a toxic that the body needs to excrete through urine. the reason why your kidney will have strain upon it is because the nitrogen builds up in the kidney and because of all the peeing you do, less fluid is able to help the nitrogen be removed. don't have to **** yourself over this, I'm just giving you the heads up.
keep it 40/40 and 20% fat in your daily diet.

Not true. . Are you an MD?
 
o and also make sure you don't have too much of a high protein diet cause this can cause some serious damaged to your kidney. causes kidney scarring in the long run. if you find that your peeing a lot it is cause of the high protein diet so make sure you drink plenty of fluids to help your kidney flush the nitrogen out. more nitrogen in the body is caused from protein and is a toxic that the body needs to excrete through urine. the reason why your kidney will have strain upon it is because the nitrogen builds up in the kidney and because of all the peeing you do, less fluid is able to help the nitrogen be removed. don't have to **** yourself over this, I'm just giving you the heads up.
keep it 40/40 and 20% fat in your daily diet.

Back up your claims with references if you can.

Nearly everything that you say there I personally disagree with.


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To the OP,

So you met two people with a different view to the other gazillion that know better... heheh that's merely coincidence in my book :)

I think the majority of people who have some basic/intermediate knowledge of body building and/or sports nutrition will know that all meals eaten throughout the day should be part carbohydrate, part protein and also include a little natural fat*.

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It's far better to eat protein first thing in the morning (and at any other time during the day) with carbs. Doing so will provide anyone with enough energy for several hours, and more importantly because eating protein and carbs slows down the digestion of the food eaten (keeping your blood sugar levels steady)... **

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If you just eat carbs on their own, toast or oats (+other cereals with milk), then you'll soon find yourself feeling hungry again after about twenty to thirty minutes. Not having an adequate amount of protein in a meal allows your blood sugar levels to rise to above normal levels, which is bad, because the opposite effect of the rise is an equal fall... when this happens your central nervous system gives a false positive response, making you think you are hungry again... when in fact you should not be/aren't. (and if you do eat again soon after you could be piling on extra cals that wont be digested as efficiently, which may not be beneficial to your cause!**)

I eat carbs and protein at every meal.
 
I guess it was just a coincidence, just strange... I guess it is true that bro science does make its way through "gym community" especially if the guy saying it is in very good shape. I have been adhearing to a fairly strict diet over the last year and a half. Slow change had worked for me. I basically eat the same amount of protein every day, i just fluctuate my carbs depending on the day. I dont plan on changing.
 
well I'm a personal trainer and all my information i give out isn't false. it's up to you if you don't agree I'm just giving information out straight from the book. a high protein diet over a long period of time can cause kidney scarring from more nitrogen in the body.

I don't understand why you would disagree because there is a lot of information about this on the net. here are some below and the list can go on if i want it too.
 
Yes. Protein is needed for recovery, building and many processes related to anabolism. Protein is the key to it all. You should never question if it is a good time to eat protein. It is always a good time, and smart time, to eat protein. There are no excemptions.
 
protein is the building block for muscle. muscles don't grow without protein, however too much protein jut goes to waste through urine or formed to glucose or glycogen. eating protein at any time of the day is fine because your body does need protein for many other things including keeping your body anabolic. but make sure there are carbs in your diet for fuel for energy.
 
eating protein at any time of the day is fine because your body does need protein for many other things including keeping your body anabolic.

which is EXACTLY why you should prime the body with some protein early in the day. first meal. prevent the body from going into a negative nitrogen balance (catabolic state).

So...a balanced breakfast with protein and carbohydrates is ideal for most people...whether they train or not.
 
So...a balanced breakfast with protein and carbohydrates is ideal for most people...whether they train or not

yes, and this is what i was explaining before. 40%protein/40%carbs/20%fat... you need all the nutrients everyday but over doing protein is going to waste and putting strain on your kidney. so keep it balanced to have a healthy outcome
 
40/40/20 is not a magic number. In fact, I find 20% fat a bit low...doesn't really allow you to get a lot of healthy fats. and 40% carb intake can be hard for diabetics as well as people trying to shed fat by restricting carbs.

there's no magic ratio for everyone to use, especially with different goals and needs. people need to find their own unique calorie intake and macro ratio for their own goals and health requirements.
 
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