Bodybuilding.... YECH!

J

jpfitness

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I originally started this thread in the bodybuilding forum, but realized that hardly anyone posts there and wanted to make sure that the regular posters saw this.



Answer me a serious question... Why does ANYONE want to look like THIS?

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Halloween is almost here and it looks like Ronnie Coleman has his costume ready just in time!

He is going as a side-show freak, and if you don't give him a carb free candy bar he will crush your skull between his ripped glutes! :eek:

Right here he is saying, "Duh, has anyone seen my chromosome?"

With enough drugs to kill an elephant YOU TOO can look just like this! Seriously, if you put this guy's brain on the edge of a dime it would look like a pea rolling down an 8-lane highway!

Further evidence that stupidity is rampant around the world. Ronnie is the winner of the Olympia again, so now maybe he can afford to have that gyno surgery he has been needing so badly!

You think that's sick? You don't? You SHOULD!

Well, check out these "babes" (???)


I just can't even begin to think of what sick crap must go through those women's heads to confuse them into thinking that is attractive in any way. It borders on self-mutilation! Like one of those crazy Dutch performance artists who severs his hand and calls it artistic expression.

I would wager that if you could really look inside their heads, those women would have a very similar psych profile as an anorexic. What do they call it? Body dismorphia, or "bigorexia"? What grosses me out even more is that there are enough fetishists out there to drive that industry. Ewwww!

So why would there be ANY interest in bodybuilding or training for a competition? Seems like an industry that is past its prime and badly needs to be retired.
 
I'm definately not one to condone that 'look' (cuz I definately don't like it), but some people are happy with that kind of look and it makes them feel good about themselves ... there's a lot worse out there!
 
I disagree. These people are no different than a starving teenage anorexic girl, or a 200 pound ten year old. They certainly aren't healthy, which disgusts me that supplement companies try to pawn these sickos off to us as paragons of "health"... The joke is on us! Don't think for a second that there is a natural person among those photos. Not even just regular users either. It takes a LOT of drugs to get that look. You have to pretty much alter and damage your body FOREVER for that fleeting moment that you get to look like a total idiot in the spotlight. If any of these peolpe live to be 40 they are bucking the odds.
 
I totally agree with you, jp. These people are sick. From what I've heard, they constantly f*** up their bodies with all types of steroids, growth hormone injections, testerone, and the list goes on and on. It's so sad to me that this is what professional bodybuilding has come down to. It's really become a competition to see who can squeeze the most drugs into their bodies. To me, Ronnie, Cutler, and the rest of the IFBB (especially the females who try to make themselves look like males) completely disgust me. I hope that sometime in the future there will come a point when natural bodybuilders like Jack Lalanne emerge and are praised for their achievement. What is really sad is that so many people don't realize that everyone in the IFBB uses all types of drugs, and in believing so, give them praise and respect that they don't deserve.
Just my 10 cents.
-Tim
 
I SWEAR i thought the first photo was fake ...
I too can appreciate a disciplined mind and body; but that isn't discipline. That's disillusioned obsession.
 
That's what I was going to say... it looks fake. JP, where did these photos come from, out of curiousity? Why on earth would you want to, but I agree with it AllCanBoy that some people think that looks good. To each their own
 
I wonder if using performance enhancing drugs is any worse than other forms of self abuse including:
implants
tattoos
piercings
alchohol abuse
drug abuse
over eating
smoking
not exercising
paticipating in extreme endurance events
contact sports
risky behavior (speeding, tail gating, sky diving,???)
???
and who's to judge which ones are acceptable and which are not?
 
dswithers, you feel that piercings and tatoos are a form of self-abuse??? How do you figure? I find it hard to compair getting your ears pierced to living a sedentary lifestyle. However, I do agree that performance enhancing drugs ARE just like any other kind of abuse. For a completely aesthetic purpose, to make you feel better, you pump your body full of a foreign substance. How is this any different from taking E or LSD to enhance/alter your current state of consciousness?? (that was more of a rhetorical question).
 
Hmm , interesting theory Dswithers. Would not you give in to the fact that there are certain levels of self abuse though? Simply oversleeping can be considered as a form of self abuse. But can you really compare something as miniscule as oversleeping to taking dbol or other steroids? I think the same applies to body piercing and tattos, over eating, and so on. While they all have their negative affects (and I personally would put over-eating as the most dangerous, since it could lead to obesity and heart complications), they are no where near as dangerous as taking anabolics. As many have stated before, these bodybuilders are on up to 20 different variaties of drugs. They have their huge stacks that they consume each day, walk around like they are big ripped freaks of nature, but in actuality I would pay money to see one of these dudes run a mile without collapsing. Have you ever seen one of these "examples of human strength in person"? The idea I got was that they were more unhealthy than I am. They sweat constantly, and can barely breathe at all. I attended one of these with my personal trainer/friend, and actually got to meet some of these dudes. I was not impressed. So, you see, simply getting a body part pierced, or a tattoo imprinted is far less harmful than drugging yourself to your grave.
scott, my 2 cents
 
I personally try to live by the biblical adage: "judge not lest ye be judged" (or the somewhat more contemporary adapation: "people who live in glass houses should not throw stones"), although it is difficult since I am an opinionated old SOB. My point was to stimulate some discussion on who gets to decide what is and what is not self destructive behavior. Almost any human behavior you can name, I can find some group who deems it unacceptable (maybe even some country where it is illegal).
If piercing ones ears is acceptable, what about ones toungue, nose, nipples, genitals, etc. If one tatoo is OK what about people who tatoo every square inch of their bodies? Who decides?
You mentioned oversleeping. How many hours is OK and how many is too many: 8,9,10? Who decides? And what about not getting enough sleep? Which is worse? And what if the surgeon general says 8 hours is the right amount now and a decade from now new studies show that was too much? The medical establishment has a history of making pronouncements based on bad science or political expediency.
 
I get what you're getting at Dswithers! No, I do not believe in judging either, but I do believe that it is wrong what these freaks of nature do. They are pretty much one big lie. They go around acting like they are the epitomy of fitness, when in actuality they are much less healthy than the average person. They put false hopes into young, new bodybuilders heads. They mislead many individuals into thinking that it is ok to be on steroids, or even worse, they make some believe a body as big as there's is attainable without the use of anabolics. They are plastered all over bodybuilding magazines throughout the country advertising supplements, drugs, anabolics, and so forth. I could care less what they do to themselves. If they want to take drugs and enter these "contests" then so be it. I just think that this is no longer a sport, but one big freak show that I personally find more amusing that grandiose. So you see, I'm not juding them for taking the steroids, but I am disappointed in them for misleading so many young athletes.
scott
 
dswithers said:
I personally try to live by the biblical adage: "judge not lest ye be judged" (or the somewhat more contemporary adapation: "people who live in glass houses should not throw stones"), although it is difficult since I am an opinionated old SOB. My point was to stimulate some discussion on who gets to decide what is and what is not self destructive behavior. Almost any human behavior you can name, I can find some group who deems it unacceptable (maybe even some country where it is illegal).
If piercing ones ears is acceptable, what about ones toungue, nose, nipples, genitals, etc. If one tatoo is OK what about people who tatoo every square inch of their bodies? Who decides?
You mentioned oversleeping. How many hours is OK and how many is too many: 8,9,10? Who decides? And what about not getting enough sleep? Which is worse? And what if the surgeon general says 8 hours is the right amount now and a decade from now new studies show that was too much? The medical establishment has a history of making pronouncements based on bad science or political expediency.
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You raise an interesting point. Where does that line exist? It is not well defined, and it moves pretty regularly, but we all sense its existance as some sort of cultural collective unconscious awareness. Point is, although we can't individually put our fingers on it, those who push the limit and go beyond often know that they are doing so, and likewise, others know when one has gone "too far" as well. A carefully placed, "subtle" tatoo can be titillating, but too many tatoos, or in combination with many piercings as well as dressing in tacky cloths and suddenly that person looks "trashy". I don't know that I would so much classify them as judgements unless someone avoided contact or conversation with someone because of it. I would more consider it to be a cultural phenomenon.

That invisible boundary changes from generation to generation though. Things that are acceptable today would have been over the top when I was in HS, and likewise, the way we dressed in HS would have been considered too racey back in my grandparent's generation. But the boundary moves somewhat slowly so that there is always some sort of "Standard of Norm" built in to each one of us, and it is pretty universal. Media is an obvious influence on this of course.

When someone pushes way beyond those cultural boundaries there are usually some psychological problems driving it. When a teen girl weighs 80 pounds she may be unaware that everyone knows that she is anorexic, but WE all know just by looking at her. A bodybuilder doesn't know that he is "too big"... In fact, they have such a self perception problem that they just can't seem to get big enough! They even go to such lengths as taking unsafe amounts of drugs, injecting synthol in their arms and legs, dehydrating themselve's at contest time, and taking powerful diuretics to flush all the water out (can't tell you how many people have died from this idiotic practice, but do they learn?).

So I agree that it has only to do with people's perceptions, but only to an extent. The boundary may be a little fuzzy, but for those who are OBVIOUSLY not the norm, it is safe to assume that they have self-esteem issues, and quite possibly serious mental problems. If they didn't have them BEFORE becoming heavy steroid users, they most certainly will become that way after years of abuse.

Consider it an example of natural selection in action.
 
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