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I was reading the Atkins' book and he said to avoid aspartame while on atkins, but fails to elaborate.
Now I know theres talk of how it can increase the risk of certain cancers, but what effect does it have on reaching ketosis? I really enjoy my aspartame. I just started drinking diet peach snapples and I cant get enough of them. 0 calories. I don't want to derail my progress with the atkins diet though.

He also says not to have anything with caffiene. The reason he gives is that caffinated products make you crave sugar. I can accept that risk and I feel comfortable having my caffiene products while on this diet because he didnt show any adverse effects other than a craving for something I will be craving regardless..lol.. I kind of want the same sense of security with aspatame, but he denies the reader by not going into detail.
 
Atkins was so 5 years ago.

Aspartame is fine. For you to get cancer from it or any bad side effects you'd literally have to drink it, snort it, inject it, and sleep in a tub of it every night.

My protein shakes contain aspartame. Nitro-tech hardcore and of course my diet dr. pepper. Don't worry about it.
 
Yeah Atkins is old..but it's the only thing that has worked fast for me. I have one month left in the biggest loser contest. I'm going with what I know. Thanks for the info on aspartame! That puts me at ease.
 
I'm with ^ . I think aspartame is horrid. I'm also not a fan of splenda. I really think stevia is the best choice to go with.
 
Derwy, the approach of that post and mine are different. My concern was the precise effect that lead Dr. Atkins to rule out aspartame in his book. My interest was how aspartame specifically effects my progress with this diet. I am not overly concerned with the other medical hazards at this time.

So that thread does not answer my question and a new thread was in order.
 
I will be the third person to state in this thread, Do not eat,drink,supplement anything with aspartame.

Stop and think of what you are saying, You want to loose a few pounds at the chance of increasings your risk of getting Cancer? To me thats illogical thinking.
Rather or not it will affect the diet is a moot point.
 
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If you have to have your aspartame and are questioning if it affects ketosis, maybe you could measure it yourself with ketosis strips.

When a friend did Atkins, he did lose weight--a whole lot at first and then he leveled off and maintained that for awhile. As long as he ate artificially--mostly with Atkin bars and Atkins cereals and Atkins products in general AND as long as he didn't eat extra carbs/breads/pastas, he was okay weight-wise. But when he started to eat normally again--eating non-Atkins products & carbs in moderation and having a healthy diet otherwise--he put the weight back on, and quickly and it was a weird, kind of loose, rolly sort of weight.

You've got to wonder about a diet that makes you disdain even small amounts of fresh fruits and vegetables.

About aspartame, this is with a rich set of references.

Also, if you're not concerned about some of the long-term effects that some people attribute to aspartame, then you might want to see this interesting bit about how it affects dieting in general. I would think that this would be especially interesting to someone who is trying to severely limit carbs. From :

Aspartame itself doesn’t have any calories, but basically, one of its ingredients, the amino acid phenylalanine, blocks production of serotonin, a nerve chemical that, among other activities, controls food cravings. As you might well imagine, a shortage of serotonin will make your brain and body scream for the foods that create more of this brain chemical—and those are the high-calorie, carbohydrate-rich snacks that can sabotage a dieter. Obviously, the more aspartame one ingests, the more heightened the effects.​
 
Just some stuff from pubmed. Couldn't find much at medline



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* Br J Nutr. 1999 Dec;82(6):427-9.


Blood glucose and meal patterns in time-blinded males, after aspartame, carbohydrate, and fat consumption, in relation to sweetness perception.

Melanson KJ, Westerterp-Plantenga MS, Campfield LA, Saris WH.

Department of Human Biology, Maastricht University, The Netherlands.

In a study of the impact of aspartame, fat, and carbohydrate on appetite, we monitored blood glucose continuously for 431 (SE 16) min. Ten healthy males (19-31 years) participated in three time-blinded visits. As blood glucose was monitored, appetite ratings were scored at randomized times. On the first meal initiation, volunteers consumed one of three isovolumetric drinks (aspartame, 1 MJ simple carbohydrate, and 1 MJ high-fat; randomized order). High-fat and high-carbohydrate foods were available ad libitum subsequently. Blood glucose patterns following the carbohydrate drink (+1.78 (SE 0.28) mmol/l in 38 (SE 3) min) and high-fat drink (+0.83 (SE 0.28) mmol/l in 49 (SE 6) min) were predictive of the next intermeal interval (R 0.64 and R 0.97 respectively). Aspartame ingestion was followed by blood glucose declines (40% of subjects), increases (20%), or stability (40%). These patterns were related to the volunteers' perception of sweetness of the drink (R 0.81, P = 0.014), and were predictive of subsequent intakes (R -0.71, P = 0.048). For all drinks combined, declines in blood glucose and meal initiation were significantly associated (chi 2 16.8, P < 0.001), the duration of blood glucose responses and intermeal intervals correlated significantly (R 0.715, P = 0.0001), and sweetness perception correlated negatively with hunger suppression (R -0.471, P = 0.015). Effects of fat, carbohydrate, and aspartame on meal initiation, meal size, and intermeal interval relate to blood glucose patterns. Varied blood glucose responses after aspartame support the controversy over its effects, and may relate to sweetness perception.


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Thanks for the info guys...

It's not so much that I dont care about the effects aspartame will have on my long term health. It's that I am addicted to coke and sweet drinks and this is the only mass produced alternative to sugar.

I think Ill start making kool-aid with splenda instead though.
 
Okieslims said:
Thanks for the info guys...

It's not so much that I dont care about the effects aspartame will have on my long term health. It's that I am addicted to coke and sweet drinks and this is the only mass produced alternative to sugar.

I think Ill start making kool-aid with splenda instead though.
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I know what you mean. There are some foods, some thirsts that seem to beg for a soda. :)

Splenda or stevia do not go down well with me and my digestive system.

It's crazy some of the products that use artificial sweeteners: toothpastes, cough syrups, mouthwashes.

By the way, those ketosis strips can be expensive online--you can get them at drug stores. I think my friend got his at GNC--this was maybe 5-6 years ago and they were something like $10 or $15 for 100 strips. Good luck!
 
I think everyone needs to research and make their own desicion about aspartame. Post like 'Aspartame is fine' is just ridiculous, considering there is evidence to suggest otherwise.

My own experience with aspartame is that it is extremely useful as a weight loss tool. In the form of diet soda (coke zero here in australia), it has helped me to loose 50+ lb over a year, and I have therein become quite addicted.

Recently, though, I have been showing a some symptoms of the adverse effects of aspartame, which are documented yet diverse. It seems to me like there are a million symptoms of aspartame 'poisining' and it was easy for me to simply say 'well, dissiness, fatigue, mood changes, I could have anything! it isnt aspartame!'

I have eventually decided to kick the aspartame, and havent had any for about a week. IMO, it is artificial, our body doesn't need it, no one's body ever has.

There were plenty of hard-core bulked and cut dudes in the world before aspartame, and there will be plenty in the future who dont use it, so why should I?
 
Okieslims said:
I was reading the Atkins' book and he said to avoid aspartame while on atkins, but fails to elaborate.
Now I know theres talk of how it can increase the risk of certain cancers, but what effect does it have on reaching ketosis? I really enjoy my aspartame. I just started drinking diet peach snapples and I cant get enough of them. 0 calories. I don't want to derail my progress with the atkins diet though.

He also says not to have anything with caffiene. The reason he gives is that caffinated products make you crave sugar. I can accept that risk and I feel comfortable having my caffiene products while on this diet because he didnt show any adverse effects other than a craving for something I will be craving regardless..lol.. I kind of want the same sense of security with aspatame, but he denies the reader by not going into detail.
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All the artificial sweeteners are fine. Anyone who says otherwise is misinformed.
 
Tanizaki said:
All the artificial sweeteners are fine. Anyone who says otherwise is misinformed.
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Beyond the fact that its being banned world wide and that the coke company is NO longer going to use the artificial sweetener(pushing for the use of stevia in its place). And the 10's of studies that show it to be harmful. BEYOND all that you still claim that EVERYONE who has a different opinion then you own, no matter how educated it is, is wrong?
 
I never have aspertame just because i hate eating things that are not the real thing.
It has also been show to leave aluminum deposits in the brain, which many people with alzhimers have been shown to have. If you still want to eat or drink aspertame, it would be a good idea to maybe drink a glass of wine (pino noir) everyday (ONLY 1) because that has been shown to reduce build up plaque in the brain and also improve brain function.
 
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