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Akemah

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How become lean? I lift alot of weights and I have nice muscles but there's to much bodyfat in the way of it. How do i get leaner? I guess the fat%must go down but how?Currently I am eating 1600 calories a day, but I guess that might be too little?

I work the chalean xtreme program with turbo jam cardio in between the weight liftin as I do 3 times a week. I also exercise 40 min cardio each morning before breakfast. I only have one day, mostly two days off. Am I restraining my body? Should I eat less or more?
The goal is to look fit, I don't care about the weigth so much as long as I have nice muscles to show off.
 
Hey Akemah!

Hey Akemah!

Getting lean is pretty simple once you understand what is going on within your body. I just finished posting a response on another thread and it will fit the answer to your question so I have copied and pasted it below for you.

Getting lean is not a case of cutting your calories. Helping your body get lean is simple. Also, the foods and methods mentioned below add to the quality of your blood cells and thus your muscle cells. Enjoy.

If you have any questions Akemah, please ask:)


Hey Merribelle!

How are you? Have you progressed from where you were?

I hear the calorie debate so often and I have to offer this advice..stop counting calories! It's very important to understand why your body is storing fat. Your lifestyle choices, along with normal bodily functions, create acid within your body. This acid is regularly removed form your body through urination, defecation, perspiration and respiration.

However, when you create too much acid for your body to be bale to cope with in this normal manner, your body turns to it's secondary channels of coping with the acid. One of these secondary channels is to store fat, in non-life threatening places, to safely store the excess acid.

The answer then becomes to alkalize your system which will allow your body to release the acid and thus let go of the fat. Counting calories is not necessary for you and clearly is not working for you. Counting calories actually can distract you from focusing on the much more important aspect of 'what those calories are made of?'

You see, if you ate 5000 calories of alkalizing, alive, electron-rich, natural foods and fluids each day, your body would shed that extra weight at a rate you would barely believe. Conversely, you could cut down to 1500 calories per day of acidic foods and fluids and still not be able to shed those extra pounds.

It sounds very much like this is happening to you. The alkaline foods I am talking about here are foods such as: avocado, broccoli, cauliflower, bell peppers, cucumber, onion, celery, tomato, spinach, almonds to name a few.

In terms of what you are ingesting, the fluids are vitally important. For optimum health and weight loss you should be consuming at least 4 litres of alkaline fluids per day. Search for alkaline water or anything similar and you will find what I am talking about.

Exercising more is not necessary. It sounds like you are exercising regularly already. I recommend simply focusing on keeping your body moving as much as possible in between your scheduled workouts.

I hope this helps. If you have any questions, please post them. I'll be happy to help

Tim
 
How become lean? I lift alot of weights and I have nice muscles but there's to much bodyfat in the way of it. How do i get leaner? I guess the fat%must go down but how?Currently I am eating 1600 calories a day, but I guess that might be too little?

I work the chalean xtreme program with turbo jam cardio in between the weight liftin as I do 3 times a week. I also exercise 40 min cardio each morning before breakfast. I only have one day, mostly two days off. Am I restraining my body? Should I eat less or more?
The goal is to look fit, I don't care about the weigth so much as long as I have nice muscles to show off.

Hi Akemeh,

Regarding your calorie intake, are you physically hungry throughout the day, if you are, you are taking in to few calories. Listen to your body's hunger and satiety cues, they are the best guide to how much you should be eating. Eat when you feel slightly hungry and stop when you feel satisfied (not stuffed). Your body will take it from there . . .

You are working out a lot and it doesn't look like you are getting much rest or recovery - recovery is as (if not more) important to muscle development as training. When you train, you are breaking down muscle tissue, when you rest (recover) your muscle tissue repairs and grows (making them bigger, too). Make sure you are getting adequate rest, or you will not see much/any progress with your weight training and overtraining will prevent you from losing body fat, too. Some symptoms of overtraining are:

  • trouble falling or staying asleep
  • getting frequent colds
  • sustaining injuries
  • feeling fatigued
  • gaining or not losing weight (fat)
  • lack of motivation
  • decline in physical and sport-specific performance (quality or ability declines)

If you are overtraining, take some time off from your training (like a week), rest and see if you don't start notice an improvement in your overall well-being. This will give your muscles time to repair and rebuild. If you are really overtrained, you will need even more time to recover.
 
Hi Everyone:)

Thanx for all the answers! I took a couple of weeks off training and ate everything that I had a crave for. I feel much better now and I feel thighter even though it doesn't look like I am. I find it hard to sit still and not train as much as I'm used to. I try to take 2 or 3 days off every week. Still I worry how I shall loose body fat. I'm starting to be insecure about it. I used to eat 1600 calories a day, but I've lost my apetite. Since then I struggle to eat 1400 a day. So to get enough calories I've eaten a lot of junk food,just to get my apetite back. Have F***** up my system now? Should I calculate how many grams of protein,carbs and fat I need in one day to get the right balance?How do I move forward to get lean with muscles intakt and loosing bodyfat?I follow the chalean Xtreme system combined with turbo jam cardio, what do you guys think of that program? I can't afford to go to the gym.
 
Hey Akemah!

Wow. With all respect to the above posters, there's a lot of conflicting advice there. Here are my thoughts on the matter. I'll say first of all that I'm not a professional - I'm someone who has lost weight and kept it off by eating healthily and exercising. I am the type of person who RESEARCHES the decisions I make - some of my friends and family say obsessively so. :) I believe that the more knowledge you have, the better decisions you can make. An informed decision is a good one. So I encourage you to take anything you read from this board (including what I say) and look it up independently.

Ok, that said ... here are my thoughts.

At it's most basic, weight loss is calories in vs. calories out. The type of food you eat is important yes. If you want to look healthy, have strong muscles, and be fit, you must eat healthy food - eating 1500 calories of junk isn't going to have the same result as eating 1500 calories of veggies, lean proteins, healthy fats, and complex carbs. I think that's something that everyone can agree on.

However, the idea that you can eat 5000 calories of some type of food and lose weight/fat is ridiculous. Alkaline, acid, whatever ... your body is more complex than that simple equation.

As far as eating when you're hungry and stopping when you're full; in theory yes, I totally agree with that. It's called Intuitive Eating by some and I think there's a huge amount of validity to it. The problem comes in when you have people who have either been overweight all their lives or who have been on diets for a long period of time. For those people (myself included), our hunger and satiety receptors have been skewed. Often people who are overweight mistake other emotions for hunger. People who have been dieting for a long time sometimes go the opposite direction and block out hunger signals. I think for me what it boils down to is that if I really KNEW when I was hungry and when I was full to begin with (as opposed to being emotional about it) - I wouldn't be overweight. :)

I hope all of that makes sense.

So from here, I'll go on to answer your questions.
So to get enough calories I've eaten a lot of junk food,just to get my apetite back. Have F***** up my system now?
Have you f'd up your system? Hard to answer w/out knowing more, but i will say eating junk to raise your calories is bad. You can raise calories and restore your appetite w/out eating junk. That would be my first bit of advice to you - quit eating junk. :)

Should I calculate how many grams of protein,carbs and fat I need in one day to get the right balance?
I think everyone should be aware of how their diet breaks down. I think it's important to have a good balance of carb/protein/fat in your diet. For me, I do this by logging my meals online (I use dailyplate.com but there are lots of other sites that let you do this). I can see at a glance how many calories I've eaten, and what percentage of my calories are carb/protein/fat. I aim to get 40% of my calories from complex carbs, 35% from lean protein, and 25% from healthy fats. I don't always hit those exact numbers, but it's my goal. :)

As to how many calories YOU should be eating ... well, how much do you weigh now? What I use is a very simple calculation based on my current bodyweight. I estimate 14 calories per pound .... so for me that would be 177 lbs x 14 calories = 2478 calories. If I wanted to stay my current weight and not lose, that's what I'd eat.

But since i want to lose, I knock 20%-30% off of that figure. At 30% off, that gives me 1734 calories per day to lose weight. I started off with 1900 calories and found that I was losing too slowly, so I dropped to the 1700 calorie level and that works really well for me. Today (if I'm on plan and being accountable) I'll eat between 1600 and 1700 calories a day and aim for the percentage split I talked about above.

For you? Your goal, you said, is not so much to worry about pounds on the scale, but to look good and show the muscles you're building. So with that in mind, concentrate on eating the RIGHT foods ... junk is not going to help you build/maintain muscle or lean down to show off those muscles. Calculate your calorie level like I did above and use that as a guideline - it's not a hard and fast number, but a starting point.

It's not a difficult thing to do - and yet at the same time it's one of the hardest things to do. For a lot of people it requires rethinking the way they think about food. It's something I'm *still* learning and tweaking ... after 2+ years of doing this. :)
 
As far as eating when you're hungry and stopping when you're full; in theory yes, I totally agree with that. It's called Intuitive Eating by some and I think there's a huge amount of validity to it. The problem comes in when you have people who have either been overweight all their lives or who have been on diets for a long period of time. For those people (myself included), our hunger and satiety receptors have been skewed. Often people who are overweight mistake other emotions for hunger. People who have been dieting for a long time sometimes go the opposite direction and block out hunger signals. I think for me what it boils down to is that if I really KNEW when I was hungry and when I was full to begin with (as opposed to being emotional about it) - I wouldn't be overweight. :)

I'm so glad you made this very excellent point! Yes, if you are a chronic dieter and/or an emotional eater, you will most likely NOT be in touch with your hunger and satiety cues - when we rely on external cues (i.e. the clock, a structured eating program, when the tv is on . . .) to tell us when to eat, we get out of sync and desensitized to our feelings of hunger and satiety. So problems like only knowing when you're famished and overly stuffed or never feeling hunger at all because of eating continuously (and usually unconsciously) arise. This does not mean, however, that we cannot get back in touch with our natural cues. Practice will be necessary to get reconnected. For this purpose, I like to use a hunger scale of -10 to +10 and stay within -2 to +2 range (this means I am neither famished nor Thanksgiving day stuffed) at all times. If you truly have difficulty feeling hunger, you may need to allocate some time (not forever) to really feeling the subtle signals of hunger: for me -2 feels like a lightness or emptiness in my stomach, at -3 my stomach begins to growl, at -4 I'm cranky and seriously on the hunt for anything edible (this is way too hungry and will blow any efforts at eating nutritiously and not overeating). Some people feel lightheaded, lethargic or have difficulty concentrating when they start experiencing physical hunger - it's very unique to each individual. Satiety for me feels like a light fullness, not heavy, I could fill my belly more, but only at the expense of stuffing myself as I am not feeling physically hungry at this point. If you are uncomfortably full after a meal, you have eaten too much (that's like +4).

Dealing with the emotional element is super important. If you are above +1 on the hunger scale, you are most likely eating for emotional reasons. The key here is to sit with the feeling, without eating, to see what comes up for you. At first, doing this for even 15 seconds can seem challenging. But the worst thing that can happen is that you'll feel a feeling and feelings are finite. This is an essential practice in learning to conquer emotional eating: many times we are afraid of feeling whatever feelings may come up for us (I was, for sure, the first time I gave this a whirl!) and the only way out of it, is through it. It’s important to mention, also, that under the superficial generic feelings of “anxiety” or “stress” there is usually a real emotion of anger, sadness or frustration. Seek them out, don’t eat these feelings down – it only intensifies the battle between you and your feelings, and it will resurface.

Also, your feelings are ALWAYS caused by a thought, so your feelings point the way to what you’re thinking when you’re sitting in front of food ready to eat and you’re not physically hungry for it. The great news about this is that once you locate that thought, you can question it’s validity. A thought is only powerful if you believe it (every action we take is based on beliefs we have and we absolutely get to choose our beliefs, they never choose us). These thoughts are usually very illogical, one of my beliefs was “I have no control” --turned out it was a total lie (I tried to tell myself I wasn’t in control when I was bingeing, and I believed that until I really questioned it: “if I’m not in control, who is?” It was me.). So often, challenging even one belief will start to take the charge out of emotional eating (especially if I’m trying to prove the belief I have no control, I prove it by eating more than I need b/c I believe that’s what out-of-control looks like, once I see the truth that I'm controlling my intake, it’s hard to use overeating as evidence that I’m out of control).

Barring any rare medical conditions, we possess the most sensitive and accurate calorie gauges ever created. It's only when we learn to trust our bodies and honor them that we can be truly free from weight issues (and for those of us who have made dieting a habit, even if we lose the weight, many times we end up clinging to our new bodies with a white knuckle grip, convinced we're just a burger away from ballooning up) - this is not a recipe for successful long term weight loss. And it certainly isn't peaceful or fun. No one can tell you if you're hungry but you (though that would make a really cool parlor trick if it was possible). The good news is once you are in touch with your satiety and hunger cues, there is never a need to go on a diet to lose weight again and you are freed up to get on with more important and satisfying things in life than focusing on weight loss.
 
The best thing to do is to go on a High Protein, Low Carbs diet. Thats how usually guys in Mens Health magazine covers get that look with 5% body fat, so the muscle can show off. Here are couple of links about how its done:


http://forums.menshealth.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1991017124/m/1431038013


http://www.bodybuildingworld.com/Summer96/TommeNu.html
 
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