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Alright, my question is what to look out for when buying fat free foods with added sugar. I just read that most of the time a fat free product compensates for lost fat (flavor) with added sugars and that’s a double whammy because there is no fat to slow down the absorption of the sugar causing insulin spikes and triggering the body to store what’s coming in because there is a lot of energy available at the time. (Are these simple carbohydrates?) So! Am I just watching out for the sweeteners that end with the forsaken "ose" or is my fat free yogurt that's sweetened with Splenda also not a great compromise?

On a side note, I've heard that as long as what you’re eating is fat free AND moderately low in calories it's irrelevant because as long as you can expend those calories as usual the storing of said energy would not be an issue. On another note, it seems that it wouldn’t matter much if its JUST a cup of yogurt or another small snack. I could see it being an issue if you started a large meal with something causing an insulin spike but otherwise what’s the deal?

I love this nutrition stuff, its fun.
 
Well your body craves nutrients not calories, and that includes fat among other things. One thing that researchers have found about the eating habits of those who eat the low fat or fat free counterparts of food usually have large enough serving sizes to where the reduction of calories doesn't do anything.

Simple carbs are any carbs that aren't accompanied by plant nutrients or fiber, protein, and fat. Dairy products like yogurt does have the natural milk sugar lactose but the absorption is balanced by fat and protein.

The thing with artificial sweeteners is that they create the same insulin response as sugar but because cells can't use it and insulin doesn't affect it, the insulin lowers your remaining blood sugar making you feel tired and sluggish if you eat enough of it.

If yogurt is the major part of your meal, look into unsweetened organic varieties, and if you have it more than once or twice a week then look into the reduced or non fat organic yogurts to keep your saturated fats in check. Feel free to mix in some fresh fruits or fruit puree with it for some flavor.

If you're eating that non-fat artificially sweetened yogurt along with a piece of whole wheat toast and an egg or two, take the meal as a whole. Chances are it's not the best thing in the world to eat but in balance with some real carbs, fats, and proteins you shouldn't lose sleep over it because it is an ok source of protein.

That's my basic take on it based on what I've read and learned.
 
Alright, my question is what to look out for when buying fat free foods with added sugar. I just read that most of the time a fat free product compensates for lost fat (flavor) with added sugars and that’s a double whammy because there is no fat to slow down the absorption of the sugar causing insulin spikes and triggering the body to store what’s coming in because there is a lot of energy available at the time. (Are these simple carbohydrates?) So! Am I just watching out for the sweeteners that end with the forsaken "ose" or is my fat free yogurt that's sweetened with Splenda also not a great compromise?

On a side note, I've heard that as long as what you’re eating is fat free AND moderately low in calories it's irrelevant because as long as you can expend those calories as usual the storing of said energy would not be an issue. On another note, it seems that it wouldn’t matter much if its JUST a cup of yogurt or another small snack. I could see it being an issue if you started a large meal with something causing an insulin spike but otherwise what’s the deal?

I love this nutrition stuff, its fun.

Just wanted to point out that you have to put this " low / no fat " approach into perspective. In my view, from a " sanity " point of view, it is a lot better to simply try and keep your fat intake to whatever your target fat intake might be on a daily basis, rather than on a per meal or per food item basis.

And, on that note, not all fat intake needs be at the " no fat " or " ultra fat " level - there are " good fats & " bad fats " after all. For example, the American Heart Association suggests people should consume no more than 30% of total calories from fat - and that's for overweight people; Mayo Clinic - 20 % to 35 %; American Dietetic Association - 20 % to 35 %; U.S. Department of Health and Human Services & the Department of Agriculture - 20 % to 35 %....you get the idea. Obviously, within those ranges, the primary focus is to greatly reduce saturated fat intake and your trans fat intake ( i.e some of the the " bad fats " ) and to focus on increasing the " good fats :.

So, if you take in 2,000 calories a day and 30% of that ( i.e from the American Heart Association ) is coming primarily from " good " fats......that tranlates to about 66 grams of fat a day. Now, that could be having 2 snacks a day of 3 grams each ( 6 in total ) and 20 grams a meal over 3 meals ( 60 in total ) for a grand total of 66 fat grams. Or, the same snacks , one meal at 30, one meal at 20 and one meal at 10...again, for a total of 66 fat grams.

In other words, my point is, when it comes to fat, the idea is to find a reasonable overall fat intake target that is line with your goals and within that target, try to be a bit flexible as to how and when you meet it .:)

On your comment...

" I've heard that as long as what you’re eating is fat free AND moderately low in calories it's irrelevant because as long as you can expend those calories as usual the storing of said energy would not be an issue "

...am i understanding your point correctly ?

Not sure I follow..... is it......' if i eat low fat/ low cal foods ITS O.K. because I won't store that food as fat because it's going to get used up as part of my daily calories " ???

Also, even if my intreptation is somewhat correct, why would that have anything to do with something being low fat/low cal ?? I'm sure I'm just not understanding your point correctly.

Perhaps you could elaborate...I'm a bit slow at times:eek:
 
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Not sure I follow.....

Perhaps you could elaborate...I'm a bit slow at times:eek:

Oh, it's me for sure! :) I just started my journey to better health and wouldn't ya' know, it's a little more then I expected. You pretty much hit the nail on the head though about my question. I read that if you eat simple carbs and it spikes your insulin levels your body will be triggered to store all the calories coming in for energy later because there is a lot of "readily available" energy to use so I guess if you start a meal with two glasses of sweet tea and then proceed to chow down (not a real good dietary notion) then the calories coming in from the food would be store more quickly (I guess that's the word) than if you hadn't had the simple carbs/insulin spike.

My question was that regardless of that trigger if your planning to expel (not sure if that’s the right term) the calories coming in as part of your healthy diet/exercise plan then the fact of it being stored as energy is irrelevant because your naturally going to burn it off because it's in the same place everything else that is stored.

As for why I’m doing the fat free stuff is just to reduce calories on what I’m eating.. I’m making the transition from awful eating habits to a 2000 calorie diet; I’m used to eating a lot more so the fewer calories I take in on some things allow for more things to be eaten later on. As long as I stay under the recommended fat intakes then I don’t care where it comes from, but that makes it easier on me. :)

I feel like I repeated myself, Sorry if I did! -- Hope that helps though.
 
Personally, I steer clear of anything that has low fat/reduced fat/fat free - you get the idea - on the label. It generally tastes like plastic, and it's been "messed about with" too much for my liking. If I want something that has large amounts of saturated fat in, I try to keep the quantity to a minimum, and I fill up the rest of my daily fat "allowance" with unsaturated fats. Saying that, my average fat intake for last week was 26.4% of my daily calories, which is well within recommended levels, so it isn't like I eat loads of the stuff.

My advice would be to concentrate on foods that are as whole and natural as possible, and try to avoid processed food as much as you can.
 
Good tips, are there official fat intake %'s running around? I thought I saw them once but can't 're-find' them. Do they list all types of fat?
 
I've been basing my diet on around 25 - 30% calories from fat, which is pretty close to what Wrangell said, and I think also corresponds pretty closely with UK government guidelines.

I did a Google search and came up with a UK site that breaks down the percentages of the different types of fat. Since UK and US diets are pretty similar, I would think the recommendations are much the same for both countries. It's quite heavy reading in some places, but very interesting.





By the way, since you haven't said where you're from, I'm guessing you're probably from the US, since the majority of people here are.
 
Yep, I'm from the states as well! Good site. I found one for US health that is a shorter read at least! :)

FATS
Consume less than 10 percent of calories from saturated fatty acids and less than 300 mg/day of cholesterol, and keep trans fatty acid consumption as low as possible.
Keep total fat intake between 20 to 35 percent of calories, with most fats coming from sources of polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fatty acids, such as fish, nuts, and vegetable oils.
When selecting and preparing meat, poultry, dry beans, and milk or milk products, make choices that are lean, low-fat, or fat-free.
Limit intake of fats and oils high in saturated and/or trans fatty acids, and choose products low in such fats and oils.



You hit the nail on the head!

EDIT: I'm happy to see the low fat reccomendations despite extra processing making things less 'natural'
 
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I don't know about fat free/diet stuff. I do know that when I was drinking diet soda or using a sugar substitute (splenda) I didn't lose weight, now that I'm back to regular sugar and regular soda I'm losing weight again. It's weird, I know but it's true. Someone once said that diet sodas and stuff confuse your body because they are so complex, and makes it hard for your body to figure out what to do with it....I don't know. Regular stuff for me seems to be working.
 
Yeah that makes no sense to me at all... a high calorie simple carb vs a nearly 0 calorie substance helping to lose weight? Makes sense that our bodies would be confused at the complexity of diet soda though.
 
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