Alli

I just finished checking out the Alli website and find it interesting. I actually have some mixed feelings about this one, which is very rare for me.

First of all, we all know that all the diet pills have that nice little sentence hidden on them somewhere mentioning that their pill produces nice results "when combined with a healthy eating and exercise plan" - which tells us it may well have been the plan more than the pill that helped. Some even have a little pamphlet with healthy eating info and whatnot.

Alli, has an entire, detailed bunch of information for meal planning, shopping guides, food journal, even an online support program. All of those are known to be good ways of helping adhere to a program.

Obviously, if you follow their nice little program, you will lose weight, therefore reducing the need for the product in the first place - except that you are evidently able to lose more than you would've with the program alone. Ok, that makes a bit of sense.

The "treatment effects" (code word for very bad poopoo experiences) sound pretty scary. I understand Alli helps reduce the absorption of some of the fat you consume. Therefore, you will experience these "treatment effects" when you consume too much fat. I'm thinking the fear of the bad poopoo experience would definitely inhibit me from chowing down on pizza. :11doh:

Now, here is where I'm torn.

(hypothetically)

Option A.) diet and exercise - lose some wt (but struggle with the urge to eat what I shouldn't and often cheat)

Option B.) diet and exercise, and take Alli - lose a bit more wt. Plus, must weigh the cost/benefit of eating pizza against the "treatment effects" - and probably not cheat as often - so, although, the "treatment effects" would no longer be an issue once I wasn't taking it anymore, the habit of not eating those things would be set.

So, in the end, do y'all think it might actually be a way to train oneself to not eat those foods - since we all very well know that will power alone, and desire to lose weight are most often not quite enough to break the pattern. (basically, the fear of bad poopoo experience would be a bigger deterrent than desire and will power alone)?

any thoughts?
 
IMHO, diet pills are no substitute for becoming the master of your own body/impulses. Unless you want to take Alli indefinately to keep up the fear of "very bad poopoo experiences", you'll eventually be falling back on your own concience to govern your actions.

Besides-- could another chemical in your body really help in the long run?
 
The DOC is right, either you learn to Master yourself or the various impulses will master you. WHich is it for you? You can whine until the sun goes down, and it will not change this plain truth.
 
I read through the dietary recommendations, I skimmed through the book, enough to get the jest of it and have looked over the ingredients.

This is actually a pretty dangerous drug, the dietary recommendations are nothing new really in that aspects, 1200 calories a day for most women, 1800 calories a day for most men, bouncing fat intake, yada.

I don't agree with the dietary recommendations but more importantly though is the really negative reactions that occur for the drug use.

Overall it's an F, Stay away.

I will be providing a report on this in my upcoming blog with more scientific information, and I will post it here.
 
For me, personally, I would rather just do the best I can.

I'm certainly not advocating its use, and don't know how dangerous it is or isn't (especially compared to the danger of being chronically obese).

I am basically just exploring the concept b/c I find it interesting. If a behavior produces a negative, we are more likely to avoid that behavior. The negative consequences of being overweight aren't that immediate, but these side effects are.

Let's pretend a pill was produced that would induce vomiting when you smoked. That would probably help people break the habit well enough to handle the cravings on their own at some point.

This is a very similar thing. It produces a very negative immediate consequence to a behavior - basically a sort of aversion therapy.
 
Let's pretend a pill was produced that would induce vomiting when you smoked. That would probably help people break the habit well enough to handle the cravings on their own at some point.

Interesting concept. There actually is a pill that is given to alcoholics to produce ill effects if you drink while taking them (and up to 48 or 72 hours after the last pill).

IMO I don't think this type of pill really works in the long run. As human beings, we're not stupid and if we know the pill causes the bad feelings...and we want that food, cigarette, or drink...we just quit taking the pill.

It is, however, a great way for drug companies to increase revenue.
 
A version of this article has been picked up by a magazine, but you can see the blog version here.
 
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