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If you know that on two consecutive days, one day your diet will be very good, and the other day a not so good diet. Would it be better to train on the day with the better diet, and eat not as well the day after, or eat not so well on training day and eat better the next day. Assume that you can have a proper pwo meal on both days.
I'm wondering when diet plays the most important role in muscle building. I know most of you will read that and say make your diet good both days, but its just something I would like to know for the future. Thanks.
 
amp89 said:
If you know that on two consecutive days, one day your diet will be very good, and the other day a not so good diet. Would it be better to train on the day with the better diet, and eat not as well the day after, or eat not so well on training day and eat better the next day. Assume that you can have a proper pwo meal on both days.
I'm wondering when diet plays the most important role in muscle building. I know most of you will read that and say make your diet good both days, but its just something I would like to know for the future. Thanks.
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EDIT: Why are you going over and under? If this over an under tends to be inconsistant, then working in something with training will like wise be inconsistant---your not on a zig-zag diet are you? (there is such a diet plan). Recovery and training days need adequate calories---the amounts depends on the persons goal. My reccommendation is to steady the diet, schedule the training sessions--and train.
Think about the following:


This scenario is one of MANY reasons I advocate KNOWING your caloric intake per day--whether you go over your deficite limitation or not. Manipulation of calories is a grossly misunderstood (on average)--but a VERY POWEFUL--element in anyone's over all routine.

In my opinion, whether you go over or not.......you still train if you are scheduled-------bottom line. If tissue loss is the goal, then you can manipulate the calories later in the week to make up for it OR use adaption of training to compensate or BOTH...........The power of
manipulation.......


THE CALORIE is BOSS while the nutrients make play decisions within the body, and the training (when deficit dieting) can assist in holding on to and/or stave off some muscle loss---but will not prevent it (outside exception..beginner gains)
 
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Well I completley understand what you are saying.... but it's not exactly the answer to my question. I didnt mean so much that you are eating more or less on the given days, but how clean the food that you are consuming is. Training will happen no matter what, but would it be better if your food was cleaner the day you trained or the day after, assuming a proper pwo meal and enough protein supplied. Again this is hypothetical, but is just something good to know if this a situation arise when I know a day will not be a good day nutrition wise.
 
amp89 said:
Well I completley understand what you are saying.... but it's not exactly the answer to my question. I didnt mean so much that you are eating more or less on the given days, but how clean the food that you are consuming is. Training will happen no matter what, but would it be better if your food was cleaner the day you trained or the day after, assuming a proper pwo meal and enough protein supplied. Again this is hypothetical, but is just something good to know if this a situation arise when I know a day will not be a good day nutrition wise.
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In short diet can effect many aspects of training, aspects of how you feel, and many other things.

I think its safe to say that with better nutrients it would be better for you. In other words eating two pieces of skinless and baked chicken --versus--12 Ding dongs, the body is better served with the chicken.

However, with things considered equal......one can lose tissue on a dirty diet if they are in deficit--though this isnt reccommended for obvious reasons.


I can be like a steel curtain when it comes to the diet, but I understand not everyone is like this, so when I get a question like this I usually take several approaches, in this case, let me present you with this.

Maybe what you need is: 85-15. 90-10, 95-10, appraoch with the diet. I dont think you need to OVER analyze the day before and the day after food take---"in the sense and voice" you are placing it.

More emphasis should be place on the circumference of meals per day and caloric totals, pre and post wo meals, and then if you wish......work in a percentage plan......then working this down as you go.....


Does this make sense. LOL..........Sometimes I wonder about myself......
 
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If your pwo meal is sufficient, it's not a huge deal.

Train on either days, it doesn't matter. Not for me, anyway...but everyone is different. You should try it and see what works for you. If you KNOW you are going to eat ****ty, like if your family was coming over for thanksgiving or whatever...well then that's a good time to plan a cheat meal. You don't have to punish yourself for eating like ****, if it's only once in a while.
 
hahahaha again chillen thank you, but basically what lei said was more or less what I was looking for. So thanks lei. Chillen, I'm not looking for an answer to how much I should "cheat" because any meal that I don't have to cheat I wont, as sometimes I may not have a choice for what I eat. But i completely understand what you said, and that is still helpful information:).
 
amp89 said:
If you know that on two consecutive days, one day your diet will be very good, and the other day a not so good diet. Would it be better to train on the day with the better diet, and eat not as well the day after, or eat not so well on training day and eat better the next day. Assume that you can have a proper pwo meal on both days.

I'm wondering when diet plays the most important role in muscle building. I know most of you will read that and say make your diet good both days, but its just something I would like to know for the future. Thanks.
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I suppose it depends on what you mean by " very good " and " better diet ".

Strictly from a day long, day after day fueling for exercise perspective, your body doesn't care how it gets it's nutrients. Your body breaks down whatever you eat - good or bad - into the basic components for absorption into your blood stream for energy and other metabolic needs - i.e mainly glucose, amino acids and fatty acids.

For example, strictly from an energy perspective, glucose is glucose whether it comes form an organic multi-grain piece of bread or a piece of ' Wonder Bread ' However, a good diet may be defined - and is usually preferable - using many other criteria beyond it's basic components earmarked for absorption.

I'd say " diet plays the most important role in muscle building ' in terms of getting enough total calories each day and that the macro-nutrients that make up those total calories adhere to some generally accepted guidelines. Most notably for protein and fat consumption - with the balance coming from carbs. For example, one definition of a " good diet " might be one that closely follows " The 7 Habits of Highly Effective Nutritional Programs " advocated by Dr. Berardi.
 
you are a hoot!! hahaah what a riot! DO not use a bad diet day as a reson to skip a workout. Did you say that?- NO. but is that what your brain is doing?-yep!

you'll end up looking like tha dog in yer avatar.

I'm actually thinking that last night I bonked 7 miles into my run because of a desert i had a lunch. BUT!! i was still 7 miles "in" when it happened.

sweat daily!

a real friend,

FF
 
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