An Involvement Of Exercise

[M.J. Quiocho]

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AN INVOLVEMENT OF EXERCISE

Exercise is a constant journey of inward traveling.
It is not all about the end of reaching or arriving at a goal but exploring along the way. (The Process is the healthy stuff)
Every exercise workout is discovering not about what you did but
How well your body and you are?

Within the field of Health & Physical Fitness, there is an abundance of personal trainers, physical conditioning instructors and wellness coaches that may be out of job in the next five to eight years. Yes, you read it right.
People will know enough about health, fitness and exercise and by having the knowledge will take what they know into their home, any fitness facility and create quick-fit exercise routines. But there will still be problems of developed and improved health and ideal fitness and the right exercise performance. Why?
No one will actually learn anything because they all know everything.
We ain't getting any smarter, just more well-informed.

What we teach ourselves is not as significant as why and how we teach it?
What we teach is an accumulation of the past ideas and historic knowledge of others who spent much of their lifetime to study and examination combined with present information.
How we teach is always new no matter how old the subject matter is. It is a way of learning what is being taught.

Better Personal Trainers mean the Right Kind of Exercise Teaching

The Chinese have a useful saying to teaching.
“Show me and I may remember. Tell me and I might forget. Involve me and I will understand.”
To help change people’s health through teaching exercise is being familiar with their lives. It is not trying to be nosey. To inquire is finding out to understand better.
Many thousands are unaware of the close interrelationship between their emotional as well as their physical health that may contribute to overall situations of unhealthy living.
To understand the nature of ones health situations is basically understanding to learn about that person’s character. This might apply also to trainers, instructors and teachers.
To work with others is to know you first. One does not teach exercise without some sort of inner results of improved health and an understanding mind of its truth of practice.
Understanding is simply the truth of something or someone. The three levels of understanding truth are:
Experience – when it happen. Reasoning – why it happen. Knowing – what happened?
Whichever one applies to suit your feelings of truth, the truth of the matter,
“You had to been involved.”

The right exercise evolves, revolves and involves the individual inside out.
Creating the whole from the sum involves body, mind and soul. It means to feel feelings of doing it totally. Exercise, not by the word but through the insightful and intentional meaning of its purpose of life’s living health.

To know is not necessarily to understand. To move is not necessarily exercise.
We all can mimic the movements of exercise but we sure can't copy someone's good human-health.
To recognize having health-in-exerciser is when you (the exerciser) can feel you are in the grip of something right and move with it.

And to end this, “When you think to know you are exercising, you are not properly exercising.” Know what I mean?

 

[DEF]

"And to end this, “When you think to know you are exercising, you are not properly exercising.” Know what I mean?"

I really don't.

 

[illiniphase4]

Gonna have to agree with Def on this one...

I did pretty well in my 4 year Kines degree, and was a personal trainer for 3 years of college before entering the Navy... so I think I know a fair amount about exercise and general health.

At the same time, I know plenty of self-taught exercisers, and I'd consider some of them as well educated, if not altogether more so than myself, in the study of exercise and it's effects on the body.

While some forms of exercise might be almost Zen-like (Yoga, martial arts, running), and while some of the best forms of exercise don't often feel like exercise at all (such as sports)... the statement "when you think to know you are exercising, you are not properly exercising" is a load of malarkey. The best exercisers are more often than not, the ones that know what they are doing. Otherwise we wouldn't have forums such as this.

 

[M.J. Quiocho]

ALOHA People!

Thank you for your inquiry.

"When you think to know you are exercising you are not exercsing properly."

When you are n-sync or in the grip of something right do you question it or just go with it?

Is this coming from what you think or what it is you are totally feeling?

Within the conventional health and fitness environment individuals casually say to others,
“Health is mind over matter.” By observing the way these “intellectual” people who convey this in their personal way of progressive resistance exercise (Strength Training/Lifting Weights) display more of their mind about knowing how to exercise and less on the matter of understanding why exercise and what exercise should be?

There is so much emphasis about “the mind is this-the mind is that-the all mighty mind,” when discussing people’s health issues and exercise fitness, we forget about the rest of the inner bodies thinking. There are times the mind is the second one to know something:
Exercise is one of these things we engage in that the mind knows last.

Now is there a state of health in which the “mind” is not the instrument of learning but of “being?”
Must not the mind learn so that the brain can naturally and rightfully function?
We impose discipline on the mind which implies control, resistance, suppression other forms of imposing stress burdens not realizing what does this do to the brain’s normal function?
If self-discipline brings about a greater output of human energy than it is worthwhile, then it has significant meaning but if it is merely suppressing and obstructing human energy it is very harmful, destructive, and unhealthy to the life of the human body as well as a human being. We really don’t need any kind of special training to live and live to be healthy. We just have to pay attention and this is of great value for “No money down.”
This is the gaining of Body-Wisdom.

The human-mind has been emphasized as the boss of the body. Well the truth of a boss is it is only that as long as it has workers. Get your workers upset, angry or hurt, they leave.
Exercise has a boss. The heart that pumps life into its workers.
The heart does not take control but will always take-part.
It is a collective effort by, with, from and through movements inside of a human body’s being. There is no isolation and separation of physiological functions while exercising.
There is psychological movement that can set apart and disconnect when exercising.
Let us keep in mind that “human-health” is not an idea but in all actuality an activity that requires and to some point will demand much continuous physical movements.
This is why the human body constantly moves to breathe.

There is and should not be thoughts of separation while doing active exercise.
What affects one part of the body does affect the whole body. The should be a healthy relationship tied into your exerscie and being alive to living a life.
The body that one takes into physical progressive exercise is the very same body he or she will use to go to school, take to work, make a family and grow old with.
What you have just read will hopefully do the same.
And the last thing I must add is that what is shared is not Absolute.
Our realities, our experiences, our understandng are all different.

Much MAHLOs (Thanks) and Good Health To You!
mikey q.

 

[Priory Sports]

re:Exercise

Exercise is a inward travel and it is something similar to meditation. Concentration is required to get the shape one wishes to and to remain in that for long he has to do his work out without fail.

-Quality treadmills from Vision, Bremshey, Horizon, TrimMaster and Tunturi

 

[matt182]

Sounds like a boring english essay to me. "Its not the destination that counts but the journey"......arghhh so cringe worthy

 

[Wrangell]

Thank you for your inquiry.

"When you think to know you are exercising you are not exercsing properly."

I disagree.

You can feel and think at the same time - those certainly aren't mutually exclusive states of mind.

You can ' think ' and be totally focused the ' knowing ' of exercise - i.e on the mechanics etc. etc. , such that a complete focus of your cognitive abilities toward exercise will often generate the feelings of being totally engaged in what your doing such that you totally ' lose yourself ' in what you're doing. You can think and know what you doing and not even realize the extent to which you're engaged in what you're doing. It's the concept of ' losing yourself '. A concept very close to Csikszentmihalyi's theory of " flow " - i.e being fully present and engaged in what you are doing - as a primary determinant of happiness.

 

[M.J. Quiocho]

ALOHA & Howzit Gang!

Thank you for your reply!

PRIORY SPORTS: Exercise is a inward travel and it is something similar to meditation. Concentration is required to get the shape one wishes to and to remain in that for long he has to do his work out without fail.

For this to be an inward travel there must be openness; freedom to journey in the beginning.
Concentration limits the space of the process and wastes the energy to discover.
We tend to forget or ignore that mediation is like praying.
It is not all about “seeing” but more of “listening.”



Matt182: Sounds like a boring english essay to me. "Its not the destination that counts but the journey"......arghhh so cringe worthy

So now sir, please explain how “It is not the destination that counts but the journey” is implied to human-health and applied into physical progressive exercise?
Please provide you own understanding and not someone else’s knowledge.

Wranlger: I disagree.

You can feel and think at the same time - those certainly aren't mutually exclusive states of mind.

You can ' think ' and be totally focused the ' knowing ' of exercise - i.e on the mechanics etc. etc. , such that a complete focus of your cognitive abilities toward exercise will often generate the feelings of being totally engaged in what your doing such that you totally ' lose yourself ' in what you're doing. You can think and know what you doing and not even realize the extent to which you're engaged in what you're doing. It's the concept of ' losing yourself '. A concept very close to Csikszentmihalyi's theory of " flow " - i.e being fully present and engaged in what you are doing - as a primary determinant of happiness.

Now is not knowing of the past?
Is the past a “living thing?”
Does the life of the human body live in the past?

To “think and felel” creates a gap.
Any form of active physical exercise is “Touch-Go” and not “Touch and Go,”
The only state the mind must be when exercising is “sound” which means it is still and silent allowing the inner-bodies to work holistically.
Does the gymnast “think” when he or she is doing a required routine?

When one is happy does one think he or she is or does happiness come without any cognitive recognition?
When you are the grip of something right do you think to question it or simply enjoy it?

Now to make short of this, do we exercise to become healthy or are we healthy in being at the present-moment of exercising?

Can we teach to share that human-health is in the here&now and not in the meantime?

Okay Gang, U-Up, Go For It!
mikey q.

 

[M.J. Quiocho]

Wrangell:

I apologize for the mis-spelling - Wrangell to WRANGLER.

Got kind of excited with replying back to you guys.

Once again, I do aplogize for my error.

Thank you!
mikey q.

 

[Wrangell]

Now is not knowing of the past?

Is the past a “living thing?”

Does the life of the human body live in the past?

Irrelevant.

Where did I bring up ' the past ' in relation to my post ?

I'm not discussing the ' past ' at all in conjunction with my post - you are.

I was specifically talking about the present and ' flow '.

To “think and felel” creates a gap

Well, I don't think it does.

Any form of active physical exercise is “Touch-Go” and not “Touch and Go,” The only state the mind must be when exercising is “sound” which means it is still and silent allowing the inner-bodies to work holistically.

No it's not.

I've trained, played and coached sports virtually all my life - and feeling and thinking work side by side to varying degrees .........when being ' in flow ' as it were.

Does the gymnast “think” when he or she is doing a required routine?

Success ( however you care to define that ) in sports is 80% mental IMO....so I'd say ....absolutely !

Just as quarterback , hockey player, rugby player, tennis player, golfer ' thinks ' when they perform their sports.

Then again, that's intuitively self evident IMO.

When one is happy does one think he or she is or does happiness come without any cognitive recognition ?

Well, you simply have to ask someone if they are happy or not and they'll tell you the reasons why. The ' reasons ' are many and varied and I suspect and may or may not involve varying influences of cognitive recognition.

When you are the grip of something right do you think to question it or simply enjoy it?

Why would I question something I think is " right " ?

I may however, ' think ' while being in " the grip of something right "

Now to make short of this, do we exercise to become healthy or are we healthy in being at the present-moment of exercising?

A person exercises - voluntarily - because of the' pay-off ' exercise delivers IMO.

Obviously, getting healthy may be just one of a number of ' pay-offs '.

Can we teach to share that human-health is in the here&now and not in the meantime?

This is your characterization - not mine.

Human health is ' optimized ' by embracing the facts and perceptions associated with the past, the present ( here and now ) and the future IMO.

 

[DEF]

Huh. I'm surprised to see this turned into a conversation. I thought it was spam.

 

[M.J. Quiocho]

Aloha & Howzit Wrangell!

First of all, I appreciate and enjoyed reading your response.
There hasn't been much genuine and professional feedback and what your feedback does is both a re-education and re-enforcement of what it is that is going on the realm of Health & Physical Progressive Exercise Teaching.

Just like you, I have ibee in the field of Health and Physical Fitness for 47 years.
Our sport particiapation is different but still the similarity is of what it is we getout of it that can be taught and shared with those who take a healthy interest in learning.

"The Gap" that I mentioned is time involved. We create and generate time.
You stated "feeling and thinking working side by side" in which I teach not to seperate or fragmentate but initiate to create the Whole so there is no "gap"

You stated "80% mental". I will teach 100% emotional.
When we love what it is we do, we do not think about it.
Liken to asking "do you love your spouse?" You would not reply "I think so?"
Then you'd be in trouble.

When it comes to "happiness", no need to ask.
We just simply have to observe one's "Body-Language and Energy Expression."
Ther are time a person will give off "Happy Energy" that which we call here in the islands "ALOHA" It is not the word but action and expression that transmitt this human energy.

Now, if you "think" to question when in the "grip-of-something-right" did you notstop or break the movement? Is there a "gap" that has been created?

The Pay-off" in physical exercise is that exercise helps to remind you that your health never left you...You did. This is why one is in itself their present nature of being health and should not think of becoming healthy.
"Let the good of health come through you. No Wait For Health Come To You?"
( I get one shirt that says that. What size you take?)

Okay. The last thing and the most important is that whatever is shared is NOT ABSOLUTE. It is offering or provoking he or she to feel if there is something to be clearly understood and most of all Challenged.
I like to tell my students that our reality, mines too, is differently.
Always challenge (even mines) the knowledge in the present and use the highest form of thinking, that, which is understanding truth.

Again, thank you for your response and I DO look forward to you reply.

Aloha for now...
mikey q.

 

[Wrangell]

Aloha & Howzit Wrangell!

Our sport particiapation is different but still the similarity is of what it is we getout of it that can be taught and shared with those who take a healthy interest in learning.

Makes sense.....I can buy that.

"The Gap" that I mentioned is time involved. We create and generate time.

Actually, I'd disagree.

There is only 24 hours in a day - so you don't really ' create ' or ' generate ' time at all. Time simply exists

However, people do choose different ways on to allocate those 24 hours they have available to them to their daily lives. Simply put, people makes choices on how to spend their time.

You stated "feeling and thinking working side by side" in which I teach not to seperate or fragmentate but initiate to create the Whole so there is no "gap"

Correct.

"feeling and thinking working side by side"...there is no gap

You stated "80% mental". I will teach 100% emotional..

Sorry, but I disagree...yet again..

You simply can't consciously / voluntarily participate in any exercise, sport etc. without having some mental component...so it is impossible to have a 100% emotional contribution and a 0% mental contribution within this context IMO.

Thus the term " mental toughness " - i.e commitment, discipline, self-sacrifice etc.

When we love what it is we do, we do not think about it.

Sure you do.

Try playing chess or making a painting or playing hockey etc. etc. without thinking about it to some degree.

Liken to asking "do you love your spouse?" You would not reply "I think so?" Then you'd be in trouble.

Shooting 3 under par reflects a skill...winning a chess tournament reflects a talent.

Love on the other hand, reflects an emotion.

When it comes to "happiness", no need to ask.
We just simply have to observe one's "Body-Language and Energy Expression."
Ther are time a person will give off "Happy Energy" that which we call here in the islands "ALOHA" It is not the word but action and expression that transmitt this human energy.

If you say so.

Now, if you "think" to question when in the "grip-of-something-right" did you notstop or break the movement? Is there a "gap" that has been created?

I don't think there is a gap at all.

The Pay-off" in physical exercise is that exercise helps to remind you that your health never left you.

According to you perhaps....but, everyone has a different ' payoff ' when it comes to exercise. There is no one reason people exercise.

..You did. This is why one is in itself their present nature of being health and should not think of becoming healthy.

No.

People make choices...including a choice as to whether to get healthy or not.

And making choices involves thinking.

"Let the good of health come through you. No Wait For Health Come To You?" ( I get one shirt that says that. What size you take?)

People improve their health because they decide - choose - they want to be healthy.

Good health doesn't just drop on your lap...you have to be fully and mentally ( i.e thinking ) engaged in your life to make choices to ensure it is sustained.

Okay. The last thing and the most important is that whatever is shared is NOT ABSOLUTE. It is offering or provoking he or she to feel if there is something to be clearly understood and most of all Challenged. .

Perhaps ...but this is irrelevant to this discussion.

I like to tell my students that our reality, mines too, is differently. Always challenge (even mines) the knowledge in the present and use the highest form of thinking, that, which is understanding truth.

Finally, you agree with me ...well said, you need to be " thinking ". That's what I've been saying throughout this entire discussion.

I couldn't agree more.

 

[M.J. Quiocho]

Aloha Wrangell!

Thanks again for your response.
..And away we go!

Time. The five words of unhealthy physical conditioning is thinking "I don't have the time." "I Can't find the time." But when the human-body has to go to the bathroom for a "bowel-movement" we surley make the time. (Just an example."
Is it the numbers of a clock, a day, a calender that dictates the time of one's health?
Was and Is there a time in one's life that time didn't matter?
Do we waste too much time with choices?

Now when it comes to our health, is there really choices or a decision to commit?

What it is we think "impossible" is from the capacity of space in you mind.
What we feel is "Possible" is of the capacity-space of one's heart.
"Mental Toughness" as in "No Pain, No Gain" which displays "NO Brains?"

"Using the highest form of thinking..."
Before and after exercsing. Not while doing the exercise.
I emphaize using the "heart's brain of emotional intelligence when teaching Human-Health & Physical Progressive Exercise.
To enlighten, to enhance is to embody and embrace so to enjoy what it is we love to do with our body's living health.

From where it is you have learned and experienced what it is you have shared is quite different from my learning, teachings and experience.

I thank you for your insight and if you wish will continue to share and hopefully others will be open to adding what it is they "feel" is rightfully healthy information.

Aloha for now...
mikey q.

 

[stroutman81]

This is some of the strangest **** I've seen.

 

[DEF]

This is some of the strangest **** I've seen.

Hear, hear.

 

[Chillen]

This is some of the strangest **** I've seen.

:yelrotflmao:

How is it going Steve?

Hope things are well for you,

Chillen

 

[Wrangell]

Aloha Wrangell!

Time. The five words of unhealthy physical conditioning is thinking "I don't have the time." "I Can't find the time." But when the human-body has to go to the bathroom for a "bowel-movement" we surley make the time. (Just an example.".

Sorry, but that is an irrelevant and inappropriate analogy to highlighting the relevance of finding time to exercise.

Is it the numbers of a clock, a day, a calender that dictates the time of one's health?

No.

Was and Is there a time in one's life that time didn't matter ?

No

Do we waste too much time with choices?

No

Now when it comes to our health, is there really choices or a decision to commit?

Making a choice IS making a decision.

Doing nothing is a choice.......doing something is a choice.

What it is we think "impossible" is from the capacity of space in you mind.

Correct.

Some things are impossible regardless ...and granted, some things are not.

What we feel is "Possible" is of the capacity-space of one's heart. "Mental Toughness" as in "No Pain, No Gain" which displays "NO Brains?"

I have no clue what you're driving at with this point.

"Using the highest form of thinking..."
Before and after exercsing. Not while doing the exercise.

Nonsense; there always some degree of thinking taking place while one exercises.

I emphaize using the "heart's brain of emotional intelligence when teaching Human-Health & Physical Progressive Exercise.
To enlighten, to enhance is to embody and embrace so to enjoy what it is we love to do with our body's living health.

Irrelevant.

You can emphasize these points all you want - but they have nothing to do with what we're debating here in this thread.

From where it is you have learned and experienced what it is you have shared is quite different from my learning, teachings and experience.

Agreed.

In fact, something tells me you could benefit a great deal from what I have learned and experienced.

I thank you for your insight and if you wish will continue to share and hopefully others will be open to adding what it is they "feel" is rightfully healthy information.Aloha for now...mikey q.

Anytime.

 

[NeuroRN76]