Bundle up, or shirt and shorts? Advice needed!!

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Ok, so do cardio about 4 days a week, and I try to burn at least 500 calories each time. I know the machines aren't a great measurement, but for this purpose it makes sense.

Usually when I go, I wear 2 tshirts, a sweatshirt and shorts with sweat pants. This is obviously so I'll sweat more, and I usually end up soaking both tshirts by the time I'm done. As I said, I do a minimum of 500 calories burned on either the treadmill or elliptical. Usually its 650-700.

The other day, I decided to go back to just a tshirt and shorts. I still did sweat, but not nearly as much. But I noticed, of course, that I was feeling cooler the entire time, as to be expected. But I had a surge of energy that lasted over an hour. I did 40 minutes on the elliptical and 30 on the treadmill, burning a total of 1100 calories!!

SO my question is, I have always noticed more energy while I'm cooler in temperature, but which do you think is more effective? When I'm bundled up, I dont overheat, but I do stay hot and sweat tons. I replace it with water and gatorade. It seems to work well. But am I doing myself any favors?

This is opinion only, I dont expect anyone to have a definite answer here, I'm just curious which method would seem better, as I'm trying to lose weight. Any thoughts are appreciated!
 
Dude, just wear shorts or whatever you're most comfortable in. Sweat is just that: sweat (aka: water). It's not fat or indicative of anything more than the fact that you're hot.
 
"Sweating measure" is not the best way to measure the effectiveness of your exercising. Get a heart rate monitor or even log onto some of those sites that you can track activities and calories expended. You can then print off a chart and then know that you'll be doing activity x for so long and burning this amount of calories then switch to the other etc.
 
Dude.....OUTSTANDING question!!!!!!! Love to get into these subjects!

A friend of mine is encouraging me to join him at the local boxing club where he swears I'll get the toughest work-out of my life, etc. He also mentioned how they have this one class where he wears a sweat suit....and I'm thinking that's all old-school and long-since dismissed, much like coaches used to discourage athletes from drinking while training...or how smoking used to be thought beneficial to your health!

Now...I'm sure there's some kind of logic to it....perhaps an over-heated & taxed body will learn to cope with it and thus a boxer could go further during a fight or something, who knows....BUT, I'm of the complete impression that everything mentioned on this thread thus far is correct.

Sweat is just sweat, basically water. My background is that of being an insulation contractor, coupled with that is my affinity to see hot/steamy woman...so from that knowledge base I'd like to make the following observation:

When your body generates energy there is heat associated with it. As a means to cool your body, you sweat, this perspiration is intended to cool you. This is one of your bodies mechanism attempting to regulate your body temperature. As your perspiration transitions from a liquid state to a gas state (evaporate), the process requires energy and as such draws heat from your body...thus cooling you. When you wear layers of clothes you inhibit this cooling effect....your body attempts to sweat even more trying to cool you down. At some point it'll realize your hydration level is lowering and you'll sweat a bit less...but still, all your doing is playing with hydration levels: I entirely fail to see how this will somehow increase your caloric burn or offer any benefits other then to help flush your system and maybe give you that overall body-cleanse sensation of having purged a lot of fluids (like a sauna). Perhaps somebody else here can offer some better explanation or benefits of this intentional inhibiting/restriction of your bodies need to cool itself.

The one thing I have learned here is that ANYTHING that will improve your workout or add to getting a better workout is good! I used to ride my bike on an empty stomach and I'd be out there grinding away figuring I was forcing my body to burn more fat. From this forum I was encouraged to try fueling-up before AND during my ride. By adding just a few hundred calories my rides and swims have been thoroughly turbo-charged and I'm getting more out of them...in 2 manners:

1) Whereas I used to burn 1,700 calories on my fairly powerful rides, I now burn 2,200 calories because I'm rippin' it up with a bit o' carbs in my tummy. Notice that the overall increase in calories burned (500 more) are in excess of the calories eaten (a few hundred)....and

2) The more intense ride includes several burst of intense intervals thus giving me some EPOC (by theory) and so I continue my thermogenic and fat-oxidative journey hours after my ride is concluded.

Would you spend 350 calories (in) to burn-off an extra 500-750 (out)?? Oh hell yeah!

It would seem you experienced this same effect when you ran with just your shirt & shorts. More calories burned and you had better energy. Hey: just imagine if you ran naked!!! ;) Uhhh....don't go there! But newsflash: your body is more efficient & effective as a machine when you fuel it, let it breath and let it run cool. :beerchug::D

On a personal note...I used to mountain bike with those grunge-style bulky mountain biking shorts. As the weather got hotter my ridin' budz harped on me to (like everyone else) transition to the lycra shorts. I avoided it because, ya know...I'm straight...but I finally gave in. Dude... I immediately noticed more power, stamina and everything felt light & quicker. Maybe it was the muscle-compression, ventillation or what-not...but my riding took a bump for the better. The improvement was nearly as noticable as when I transitioned from wearing regular shoes to real clip-in's!

Other things that improved my riding:

Eating properly before, during & after the ride
Lots of hydration, wearing a 100-ounce camel-pack w/diluted gatorade mixed-in
Listening to kickin' music via my ipod
Clip-in shoes
Lycra shorts
A helmet with LOTS of ventillation!!!!! (no more waterfall when I lean forward)
A lighter/better bike
Running higher air-pressure and just standing up with bent knees on downhills

Find what works for you and strive to get the most out of your workout. And don't stress all the little details. Look how you are now....eating right, exercising more then 90% of the population...whereas how was it a couple years ago? Fast food, little exercise and you were watching Desperate Housewives & Grey's Anatomy on tv; oh dude, those were lowly days indeed! :D

Eat Less, Eat right, Move more....rip it up, keep it up and as Chillen is fond of saying, Rock on my Brother! :D
 
Well, after reading this thread, the consensus seems clear. I need to go in shorts!!!

I guess the sweatsuit idea is what gave me the idea, but I'm sure its true that the more energy came from running cool.

As far as eating before working out, I figured out that one pretty early on. I too thought running empty meant I was burnin up more fat, but I noticed a quick drop in energy. I eat some carbs and hit the gym 1/2 hour to an hour later, and my energy is way higher.

This week, I'm going to run in tshirt and shorts and see how I do. Thanks guys! This kind of information is why I come here.
 
I would say that rather then worrying about what you are wearing, maybe you should be worrying more whether your workouts are actually structured in a manner that will best help you reach your goals. Cause from the sounds of it I have a funny feeling that they mightn't be
 
jsb said:
I would say that rather then worrying about what you are wearing, maybe you should be worrying more whether your workouts are actually structured in a manner that will best help you reach your goals.

Cause from the sounds of it I have a funny feeling that they mightn't be
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Perfect reply ...couldn't agree more.
 
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jsb said:
I would say that rather then worrying about what you are wearing, maybe you should be worrying more whether your workouts are actually structured in a manner that will best help you reach your goals. Cause from the sounds of it I have a funny feeling that they mightn't be
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I don't agree with that at all. I'm just the type of person who tries to optimize everything. My workouts and diet are structured just fine, and I am seeing good results (1.5-2 pounds a week loss) and I go to the gym 3-4 times a week. I space out strength training and cardio according to a schedule, and I seldom go more than 2 days without a workout.

I am just an optimizer (I'm a software engineer by trade) and always looking for an edge.
 
CodeMonkey said:
I don't agree with that at all. I'm just the type of person who tries to optimize everything. My workouts and diet are structured just fine, and I am seeing good results (1.5-2 pounds a week loss) and I go to the gym 3-4 times a week. I space out strength training and cardio according to a schedule, and I seldom go more than 2 days without a workout.

I am just an optimizer (I'm a software engineer by trade) and always looking for an edge.
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To optimize your cardio workout, try getting some useful work out of it, instead of just running on a treadmill. For example, run to work, run to the store, run to the gym, etc. instead of on a treadmill.
 
tjl said:
To optimize your cardio workout, try getting some useful work out of it, instead of just running on a treadmill. For example, run to work, run to the store, run to the gym, etc. instead of on a treadmill.
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Don't forget your classic: Run Forest Run! :D

Code-Monkay....you may wanna optimize your response time; this thread is 8 months old and neither JSB or Wrangell have been around for quite some time. Glad to hear your workouts are doing well.
 
tjl said:
To optimize your cardio workout, try getting some useful work out of it, instead of just running on a treadmill. For example, run to work, run to the store, run to the gym, etc. instead of on a treadmill.
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I agree with that. It's summertime so I've been doing a lot of outside running, and since I live in the city, I usually "run" errands that was as well. The wintertime is when I usually hit the gym.
 
Training clothing

The thing we are all missing here is the negative impact being to hot or to cold has on performance.

You just answered your own question - training and allowing the body to cool itself while doing so is the ideal (from a safety and Science perspective).

When placed under extreme heat stress, your performance will be dramatically reduced, you will become dehydrated, which in turn leads to a reduction in your bodies ability to recover after the session, which has a negative impact on your next training session, and ultimately = system breakdown.

Keeping cool and well hydrated is the way to go.
 
Go short and breathable t-shirt or tank top. Unless you are trying to make weight for an event, sweating more by wearing layers of clothes is overheating your system. You may lose more WATER weight with layers but guess what, you will drink it back. The less layer makes it easier for you to burn calorie more effieceintly and effectively.
 
Go with what keeps you cooler. Granted the excess sweating is going to help you shed a little extra (water) weight, but you body is also having to shunt more and more energy to keep you cool than it would have to if you weren't wearing so many clothes. That energy that could be put forth to better use (ie. more exercise). Not to mention, it isn't comfortable swimming through all your exercises like that.

Added: I really ought to start checking how old some of these threads are before I post to them :)
 
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