Please explain mass/fat

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So from everything i read, it seems as if you want to get bigger i.e. put on muscle, then you also have to put on fat. And this is the case even if you eat lots of high protein / low fat foods? If so, then how? How is all the protein being converted to fat?

If this is NOT the way to put on mass, then should i be eating pizza and cheeseburgers?
 
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You need a good balance of protein, carbs, and fats, just eating protein and bare minimum of everything else won't help you.

No you shouldn't be shoving down pizza and other fast foods.

Read this:
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1268956
 
difference between fat and mass.. by mass, do you mean muscle?

When you put inn more than you're maintence levels, and you weight train, the body will convert alot of it to muscle, but the body cant convert everything to muscle, so some will convert to fat. This is because the body is actually made to get fat. Because the fatter we are, the better are our chanses of survival if we have to go a long period without food.
 
and no you shouldn't be eating pizza and cheeseburgers, try and get most if not all your meals from good clean sources.
Although you are most likely going to put on fat whiel bulking you at least want to try and minimise the amount of fat you put on
 
Mass encompasses anything that is not fat (blood, bone, cartilage, ligament, muscle, etc and includes water).

In order to put on mass (lean body tissue) you have to eat in excess of what is needed caloricly to maintain your current LBM (lean body mass). There's a quick way and and a slow way. Eating up to 20% over your maint in clean food would constitute a slow method in my book.

Eating radically over in any food (quarter pounders, hot dogs, BK double stacks, etc) is a fast way, but guarantees you'll put on a lot of fat.

It comes down to this: If you're competing in a BB contest, then do it the fast and dirty way. It requires more discipline when you switch to cutting, but it's faster.

For the everyday guy, I simply don't see the need for dirty bulking. Just eat a healthy diet with a balance protein, fat and carbs, with lots of vegetables (the veggies help maintain LBM and non-muscular connective tissue), have a PWO protein drink and you'll be fine.
 
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Most workout routines talk of fat and mass, not fat and muscle so just trying to clarify the terminology. So mass=muscle? If so, when bulking then one must put on fat to gain muscle? If muscle is built via protein and amino acids, then why must one put on fat to gain muscle? Seems you could "clean bulk" and do much better.
 
lma1973 said:
And this is the case even if you eat lots of high protein / low fat foods? If so, then how? How is all the protein being converted to fat?
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First: fat doesn't make you fat - too many calories make you fat. in fact a high protein/low fat bulk is gonna HURT your goals of putting on more muscle.


Now, moving on. Mass is a generic term. If I have a bucket of oats, and I add another scoop of oats...I've increased the mass of the bucket.

When you try to increase mass by bulking, your goal is more LEAN MUSCLE MASS. Putting on fat is kind of unavoidable, but you don't have to 'get fat' to add muscle. the cleaner your bulk, and more carefully you monitor intake and weight gain, the better you can control it.
 
Thanks for clearing that up...got it!
 
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