How to get a Six Pack

Lysimachus said:
That is a bunch of baloney. You do not need to eat that much a day in order to put on weight. I normally eat 2 meals a day, and if I want to put on weight, I simply add a 3rd meal...and that is A LOT for me. If I eat anymore than 3 meals a day, I will gag on my food, and probably even throw up. That is taxing on the digestive system. Food takes 4-5 hours to digest, and to add more food on top of food that has already started digesting only 2hrs before causes digestive problems for the longrun....what ends up happening is the body gets confused because now instead of finishing the digestive process of the previous food, now it has to try to start digesting new food....this causes fermentation in the stomach. Any naturopath doctor will tell you this.

When I eat too much, it actually makes me LOSE weight rather than put it on. Why? Because when I mess up my digestive process, the body is not able to process the nutrients and allow you to put on pounds. You also have to enjoy your meal in order to properly assimilate the nutrients, and when you eat 6 meals a day, that's what you call "stress". Stress makes you lose weight, not put it on.

So once again, I think this idea is faulty that it is a requirement.

First off you are wrong, where is your science? The poster wants to LOSE WEIGHT!!! He has extra bf and hes not eating enough.

STOP GIVING BAD ADVICE!

I am not even going to argue this, even the beginner knows this.
 
Lysimachus said:
That is a bunch of baloney. You do not need to eat that much a day in order to put on weight. I normally eat 2 meals a day, and if I want to put on weight, I simply add a 3rd meal...and that is A LOT for me.
I can write a book on how wrong you are but alas, I have a half day of work!

:)
 
Well then I challenge you to prove me wrong.

I hold to my statement that to eat more than 3 meals a day is taxing on your digestive tract. When the stomach has no rest, it is taxing. Period. Why do you think that fasting is recommended by some nutritionists? It is cleansing.

I've known some people who were skinny, and could not put on weight. They went on a 10 day water cleans, where 3 days they ate nothing, 4 days they ate nothing but natural fruits, and 3 days back on water. Guess what? As a result, when they began eating again, they put their past weight back on quickly PLUS gained more. Why? Because they were toxic. When the body is toxic, it cannot absorb nutrition properly, so the more you eat, the more toxic you become, and the more you will clog your colon. When you rest your digestive system, your body will be able to more efficiently absorb the nutrients and put on weight.

I'm a diabetic Type 1. Whenever I eat too much, I lose weight. If I eat too little, I also lose weight. If I eat just right, not too much, and not too little...guess what? The digestive process is actually able to make optimal use of what I eat!
 
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Lysimachus said:
Well then I challenge you to prove me wrong.

I hold to my statement that to eat more than 3 meals a day is taxing on your digestive tract. When the stomach has no rest, it is taxing. Period. Why do you think that fasting is recommended by some nutritionists? It is cleansing.

I've known some people who were skinny, and could not put on weight. They went on a 10 day water cleans, where 3 days they ate nothing, 4 days they ate nothing but natural fruits, and 3 days back on water. Guess what? As a result, when they began eating again, they put their past weight back on quickly PLUS gained more. Why? Because they were toxic. When the body is toxic, it cannot absorb nutrition properly, so the more you eat, the more toxic you become, and the more you will clog your colon. When you rest your digestive system, your body will be able to more efficiently absorb the nutrients and put on weight.

I'm a diabetic Type 1. Whenever I eat too much, I lose weight. If I eat too little, I also lose weight. If I eat just right, not too much, and not too little...guess what? The digestive process is actually able to make optimal use of what I eat!
 
I'm a diabetic Type 1. Whenever I eat too much, I lose weight. If I eat too little, I also lose weight. If I eat just right, not too much, and not too little...guess what? The digestive process is actually able to make optimal use of what I eat![/QUOTE]


Ok I'm coming back tonight to say a little about this. But I do want to say this - YOU are a diabetic so you body does not act the same way other people do. So stop giving advice based on your condition. Ok having said that I will come back tonight and write something on digestion. No time now got to go to take my kids to swimming lessons :D Cheers :D
 
You got a lot of patience Larrabee!
OK Eating Right...
As Larrabee mentioned 5 - 8 meals a day (At your age I'm sure 8 would be a bit hard to fit in so lets go for 5.
I want you to get a decent breakfast - smoothies are usually a good avenue to explore for breakfast or else try muesli ( a bit of nuts, oats, yoghurt, berries, raisins, dried fruits etc. with milk)
Lunch at school you probably can't really control so just try get your hands on a decent amount of protein (Try get about a half handful).
Lunch once home - try get some tuna/pilchards/eggs/leftover beef/chicken or some other protein. As well as a hand FULL of carbs (e.g.spaghetti, sweet potatoes, pasta, etc.)
Snack (tea time) get a handful of nuts or mixed dried fruit - just a snack.
Dinner - yuo probably don't have much control over this either so just try get some fish, poultry, or beef in. (Beans also make for a great source of protein if you can get them cooked for you).

That should get you started. See how it goes.
 
Thanks, I am just trying to help. It is hard since some people just will not read two articles.

Its all good though, the poster got the help he needed.
 
Well I will just chime in here for Larrabee on two points.

You can lift at 13 and not "stunt your growth". The important part is not to lift incredibly heavy, as this could cause the softer ends of the bones to close off and stop growing. But certainly, doing 12 or 15 reps, with light to medium weight and very strict form, will produce very good results. (Heck, they will for anyone, not just teenagers! How many people do I see bragging they can bench 300 pounds, but their form is just awful, and looks like their spine might corkscrew as they push the weight up!!)

And lots of studies show if you want to LOSE weight, eat a lot of well balanced, but small, meals. This keeps your metabolism "stoked", and that is really the best goal: to have your body effectively burning calories in resting mode.

But the poster is 13....he should try to get and stay focused. Make goals, some short term (in 2 weeks I want to be able to bench 90 pounds for 2 reps of 15), and some long term goals (in six months I want to be able to see the start of my abs coming out, I want my bodyfat down by 1%, etc etc)

All this is just my humble opinion of course.
 
Lysimachus said:
That is a bunch of baloney. You do not need to eat that much a day in order to put on weight. I normally eat 2 meals a day, and if I want to put on weight, I simply add a 3rd meal...and that is A LOT for me. If I eat anymore than 3 meals a day, I will gag on my food, and probably even throw up. That is taxing on the digestive system. Food takes 4-5 hours to digest, and to add more food on top of food that has already started digesting only 2hrs before causes digestive problems for the longrun....what ends up happening is the body gets confused because now instead of finishing the digestive process of the previous food, now it has to try to start digesting new food....this causes fermentation in the stomach. Any naturopath doctor will tell you this.

When I eat too much, it actually makes me LOSE weight rather than put it on. Why? Because when I mess up my digestive process, the body is not able to process the nutrients and allow you to put on pounds. You also have to enjoy your meal in order to properly assimilate the nutrients, and when you eat 6 meals a day, that's what you call "stress". Stress makes you lose weight, not put it on.

So once again, I think this idea is faulty that it is a requirement.

Ok I'm not sure where you are getting your info from but whatever here we go. Emptying of the stomach takes 2 to 6 hours depending on the amount of food and the type of food eaten, after leaving the stomach it takes 5 hours to pass thru the smallintestine- plus the rate of gastric secretion is regulated and adjusted by both the nervous system and the endocrin reflex mechanisms- this means that depending on the meal the stomach holds the food ( it does not digest it) until the intestines do their job digesting, absorbing, secreting and elimanating. If you eat way too much it cause the stomach to fill up and you feel like crap therefore stoping you from eating more. It in not inhibites your bod from absorbing the nutrients it needs. You probably have some type of digestive disorder and that would be what your problem is. In a normal functioning system eating 5 to 6 small mealsis not a problem, especially given the kind of food you are eating. And while we are at it you are talking about the stress response as well. the kind of response you are talking about is an alarm reaction is an individual reaction- customised based on each persons previous experiences and their specific perception of the event, and their coping skills- some examples are : loss of something that the person values; injury or threat of injury; poor health and or nutrition; frustration and ineffective coping skills. The GI reaction is a symptom of stress not the cause of the stress. Holy crap this a lot of typing. Ok so that is just a little bit of info. Oh and your body knows its job and each part of the digestive tract knows what it is doing and adjusts to accomadate what it needs to maintain proper function. Feed it well and take care of it and unless you are having GI problems let it do its thing. Further more unless you are eating a big meal not the small meals we are taking about here you should have no problem digesting any of it. If you do you may very well have a pathological problem and should consult your doctor. And on that note I am done for now. Please feel free to challenge me and post your degrees and educational background to back it up if you are so inclined:D since that seems to be very important to you. You are also aware that some of your bodies functions are also affected by your diabetes so you should keep in mind that people without diabetes bodies will function differently from yours. As well as any other undisclosed medical issues that one might have.
 
the_Trainer said:
You got a lot of patience Larrabee!
OK Eating Right...
As Larrabee mentioned 5 - 8 meals a day (At your age I'm sure 8 would be a bit hard to fit in so lets go for 5.
I want you to get a decent breakfast - smoothies are usually a good avenue to explore for breakfast or else try muesli ( a bit of nuts, oats, yoghurt, berries, raisins, dried fruits etc. with milk)
Lunch at school you probably can't really control so just try get your hands on a decent amount of protein (Try get about a half handful).
Lunch once home - try get some tuna/pilchards/eggs/leftover beef/chicken or some other protein. As well as a hand FULL of carbs (e.g.spaghetti, sweet potatoes, pasta, etc.)
Snack (tea time) get a handful of nuts or mixed dried fruit - just a snack.
Dinner - yuo probably don't have much control over this either so just try get some fish, poultry, or beef in. (Beans also make for a great source of protein if you can get them cooked for you).

That should get you started. See how it goes.

Mmm.. i think ill try this out =)
Breakfast i think i have yogurt...
Lunch at school? ham sandwich would work?
Lunch at home.. im fine
Snack.. nuts or dried fruit? how about.. regular fruit or yogurt?
Dinner.. im fine ..

what type of crunches do i do? cause like i know there are many kinds thx for the help again =) ohh and how do i add weight to the crunches..
 
megaten92 said:
Mmm.. i think ill try this out =)
Breakfast i think i have yogurt...
Lunch at school? ham sandwich would work?
Lunch at home.. im fine
Snack.. nuts or dried fruit? how about.. regular fruit or yogurt?
Dinner.. im fine ..

Regular fruit is fine, apples are real good, blueberries are an all around favorite. Make sure you're getting a complete protein source with every meal. Sources that have a complete protein profile: meats, dairy, eggs, fish. Since yogurt is dairy, it's good, but make it plain yogurt, sans high fructose corn syrup and added sugar. Just add your own fruit to flavor it up.

One cup of strawberries have 135% of the RDA of vitamin C and only 43calories.
Blueberries have a good antioxidant content.
I like cherries for the taste.

Mega, here's another article I like to refer to when recommending food choices:



what type of crunches do i do? cause like i know there are many kinds thx for the help again =) ohh and how do i add weight to the crunches..

Per Lou Schuler, you should train your core in at least two directions, so twisting or lateral crunches will work. For weight, hold a plate or dumbbell either on your chest or behind your head.

Also, you have bridges and birddogs to choose from.
 
Well thanks for the responses, and I promise you I will remain openminded what you all have to say.

No, I don't have any degrees of any kind, but I do study nutrition quite extensively. I've been to several health-seminars in my past, and the information I gave you came from these seminars--seminars given by nutritionists and even doctors (all with degrees). I've heard it time and time again that when individuals eat in-between meals, it is taxing on the digestive process and does not allow the stomach a rest. Now when I say 4-5 hours, of course I'm talking about a normal heavy meal (nuts, legumes, grains, rice bread, vegetables). I've also learned that the heaviest meal of the day should be for breakfast, since that is when your stomach is most prepared to handle a heavy meal. Even more, I've learned that we should never eat heavy meals just before we go to bed, because if the stomach is forced to process heavy food just before you go to bed, and it affects your sleep--it makes sense, digestion takes energy.

But tell me, if you say that eating 5-6 meals a day is acceptible, just how much food should you eat at one meal? 1 sandwich, or 2 sandwiches? 1 granola bar or 2 granola bars? If it's a plate of rice and beans, how much rice and beans?

I'm a vegan vegetarian, so please taylor your recommendations toward my diet.

And btw, I was diagnosed with Juvenile Diabetes when I was 14 years old. We did some research, and it was genetic. I might have caught a virus when I was young that triggered it. My healthy diet has helped me regulate my bloodsugar levels. I also take nutritional supplements. I take a supplement called "VIBE" by Eniva. I used to take 22 units of Humolog per meal. Since the VIBE came into my life, my insulin doses have decreased to 15 units (13 in the summer) per meal. My weight has still been the same. I'm 5' 8", and my weight fluxes constantly between 128 and 130lb. Although I'm pretty thin, I calculated that my BMI is still within range.
 
Take you caloric needs for the day and divide by six. That's about how much each meal should equal.

You can play with it some, add 100 to lunch, but subtract 100 from dinner, etc.

Are you fully vegen? Do you eat cheese or drink milk?

You'll need to really research protein requirements on a vegen diet. Vegetarian has some play, because you can eat dairy.
 
That decision is entirely yours. It's not truly a sign of health. Many men live solid, healthy, active and athletic lives on 10-12%.
 
Yeah, I really think many men do it for the sole purpose of looking "hot" to the femininas. But I think the ladies find the back, chest, shoulders more attractive, basically the upper body.
 
Yeah they love the buttocks too, it's like universal, I wouldnt be surprised if male aliens from a far far away galaxy whistled at female aliens asses they walk by lmfao
 
Lysimachus said:
Well thanks for the responses, and I promise you I will remain openminded what you all have to say.

No, I don't have any degrees of any kind, but I do study nutrition quite extensively. I've been to several health-seminars in my past, and the information I gave you came from these seminars--seminars given by nutritionists and even doctors (all with degrees). I've heard it time and time again that when individuals eat in-between meals, it is taxing on the digestive process and does not allow the stomach a rest. Now when I say 4-5 hours, of course I'm talking about a normal heavy meal (nuts, legumes, grains, rice bread, vegetables). I've also learned that the heaviest meal of the day should be for breakfast, since that is when your stomach is most prepared to handle a heavy meal. Even more, I've learned that we should never eat heavy meals just before we go to bed, because if the stomach is forced to process heavy food just before you go to bed, and it affects your sleep--it makes sense, digestion takes energy.

But tell me, if you say that eating 5-6 meals a day is acceptible, just how much food should you eat at one meal? 1 sandwich, or 2 sandwiches? 1 granola bar or 2 granola bars? If it's a plate of rice and beans, how much rice and beans?

I'm a vegan vegetarian, so please taylor your recommendations toward my diet.

And btw, I was diagnosed with Juvenile Diabetes when I was 14 years old. We did some research, and it was genetic. I might have caught a virus when I was young that triggered it. My healthy diet has helped me regulate my bloodsugar levels. I also take nutritional supplements. I take a supplement called "VIBE" by Eniva. I used to take 22 units of Humolog per meal. Since the VIBE came into my life, my insulin doses have decreased to 15 units (13 in the summer) per meal. My weight has still been the same. I'm 5' 8", and my weight fluxes constantly between 128 and 130lb. Although I'm pretty thin, I calculated that my BMI is still within range.


dude... i think your retarded. Just keep your comments to yourself. Not everyone here is diabetic and is a vegan like you.
 
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